Who gets really screwed in Ireland

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:19pm #1

A poster said the following on another thread:

"Scumbags can do what they like in this country, just like the rich can. Ordinary Joe is the one who gets screwed by the system"

However he/she is wrong. Scumbags get on just fine in life with free dole cash in the claw free medical card, all they have to do is pop down to the community welfare officer for another free sub for their "children" then off to the pub with the cash. Those at the top end need no introduction to scammery eg. seanie fitz.

It is people like my parents (who il be honest are middle class) who pay 41% tax are the real losers in this pathetic country, getting up at 7 in the morning for the past 30 years to keep scumbag hooligans in college with their student grant so they can go off drinking as soon as the pubs open.

Anyway Im done with this country, those that worked hard all their lives (such as my parents who grew up in extreme poverty) to make something of themselves are the ones who get screwed, and Im pretty sure there are others on here too who are in the same situation. Im getting the hell out of here as soon as I possibly can so my tax money will never be used to keep Bertie Knacker Ahern in valet staff.

/rant

mathie · 13-10-2011 1:23pm

maygitchell wrote: »

However he/she is wrong. Scumbags get on just fine in life with free dole cash in the claw free medical card, all they have to do is pop down to the community welfare officer for another free sub for their "children" then off to the pub with the cash. Those at the top end need no introduction to scammery eg. seanie fitz.

"children"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Wonder_(TV_series)

thefinalstage · 13-10-2011 1:23pm

maygitchell wrote: »

A poster said the following on another thread:

"Scumbags can do what they like in this country, just like the rich can. Ordinary Joe is the one who gets screwed by the system"

However he/she is wrong. Scumbags get on just fine in life with free dole cash in the claw free medical card, all they have to do is pop down to the community welfare officer for another free sub for their "children" then off to the pub with the cash. Those at the top end need no introduction to scammery eg. seanie fitz.

It is people like my parents (who il be honest are middle class) who pay 41% tax are the real losers in this pathetic country, getting up at 7 in the morning for the past 30 years to keep scumbag hooligans in college with their student grant so they can go off drinking as soon as the pubs open.

Anyway Im done with this country, those that worked hard all their lives (such as my parents who grew up in extreme poverty) to make something of themselves are the ones who get screwed, and Im pretty sure there are others on here too who are in the same situation. Im getting the hell out of here as soon as I possibly can so my tax money will never be used to keep Bertie Knacker Ahern in valet staff.

/rant

Fail - Work for minimum wage and tell me you and your parents with a comfortable lifestyle are the worst off.

TheyKnowMyIP · 13-10-2011 1:23pm

Same train of thought op. I have lost all respect for this country. Once I have the means, I am outta here like a light. Ireland isn't the worst country by any means, but we should not get ahead of ourselves. Move to a Scandinavian country, these are some of the most progressive societies in the world. Not like here. If you have no ties here, GTFO.

WIZE · 13-10-2011 1:24pm

scumbag hooligans in college with their student grant so they can go off drinking as soon as the pubs open

that made me laugh . what do you think they study

Morlar · 13-10-2011 1:25pm

maygitchell wrote: »

Anyway Im done with this country, ..... Im getting the hell out of here as soon as I possibly can so my tax money will never be used to keep Bertie Knacker Ahern in valet staff.

/rant

Sooner or later there is going to be a 'Leaving so soon' tax. Seriously.

Fishooks12 · 13-10-2011 1:26pm

maygitchell wrote: »

A poster said the following on another thread:

getting up at 7 in the morning for the past 30 years to keep scumbag hooligans in college with their student grant so they can go off drinking as soon as the pubs open.

/rant

What a gross generalisation. I get a grant, does that mean that I'm a scumbag hooligan?

foxyboxer · 13-10-2011 1:26pm

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:26pm

WIZE wrote: »

that made me laugh . what do you think they study

Arts....probably

but I have seen it first hand my friend so say what you wish, I never got ONE CENT from the state bar my child allowance over the years and had to work my balls off to stay in uni (part time jobs) whilst I watched others get 5 or 6 gs a year for doing nothing just because mammy and daddy couldnt be arsed working and were much more useful at working the social welfare system

SEPT 23 1989 · 13-10-2011 1:27pm

Enough of the scumbag hooligan bashing please

TheyKnowMyIP · 13-10-2011 1:28pm

WIZE wrote: »

that made me laugh . what do you think they study

Trade Certs. Any decent tradesman will qualify on their own merit, not like the pissheads I've seen piss away their grant:rolleyes: A large majority of people who attend college do so because they have nothing better to be doing. The number of people failing first year of college is pathetic imo. I've seen it myself first hand. No shame whatsoever.

mikemac · 13-10-2011 1:28pm

I got a student grant, it's means tested and since the parents were self employed a full set of accounts were needed

The reason you didn't get it is your parents earn over the threshold

Guess I'm a sponger so, sorry OP

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:29pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

What a gross generalisation. I get a grant, does that mean that I'm a scumbag hooligan?

Apologies, I know there are dangers in making generalisations, you are probably a very good student and use your grant wisely towards the cost of your education, my gripe is mos def not with you, in fact I would rather see my tax money go to your pocket to feed you on a daily basis than Bertie or any other gangsters pocket.

But you must agree you yourself are aware of the kind of "student" I mention surely?

Fishooks12 · 13-10-2011 1:29pm

maygitchell wrote: »

Arts....probably but I have seen it first hand my friend so say what you wish, I never got ONE CENT from the state bar my child allowance over the years and had to work my balls off to stay in uni (part time jobs) whilst I watched others get 5 or 6 gs a year for doing nothing just because mammy and daddy couldnt be arsed working and were much more useful at working the social welfare system

So just because their parents were wasters means the children shouldn't be allowed to go to college?

If you hate our country so much why don't you piss off so?

Juicyfruit · 13-10-2011 1:29pm

Oh great, another Ireland is full of wànkers thread.

How refreshing.

godscop · 13-10-2011 1:30pm

maygitchell wrote: »

A poster said the following on another thread:

"Scumbags can do what they like in this country, just like the rich can. Ordinary Joe is the one who gets screwed by the system"

However he/she is wrong. Scumbags get on just fine in life with free dole cash in the claw free medical card, all they have to do is pop down to the community welfare officer for another free sub for their "children" then off to the pub with the cash. Those at the top end need no introduction to scammery eg. seanie fitz.

It is people like my parents (who il be honest are middle class) who pay 41% tax are the real losers in this pathetic country, getting up at 7 in the morning for the past 30 years to keep scumbag hooligans in college with their student grant so they can go off drinking as soon as the pubs open.

Anyway Im done with this country, those that worked hard all their lives (such as my parents who grew up in extreme poverty) to make something of themselves are the ones who get screwed, and Im pretty sure there are others on here too who are in the same situation. Im getting the hell out of here as soon as I possibly can so my tax money will never be used to keep Bertie Knacker Ahern in valet staff.

/rant

i agree with you. it was my post

TheyKnowMyIP · 13-10-2011 1:30pm

maygitchell wrote: »

Apologies, I know there are dangers in making generalisations, you are probably a very good student and use your grant wisely towards the cost of your education, my gripe is mos def not with you, in fact I would rather see my tax money go to your pocket to feed you on a daily basis than Bertie or any other gangsters pocket.

But you must agree you yourself are aware of the kind of "student" I mention surely?

This guy is probably the exception to the rule. I do agree though, a large majority of people intentionally fail the year just to keep the money. These idiots should be forced to pay back the money after failing first year of a course. I've seen it many times myself. The grants system in this country is a joke.

Fishooks12 · 13-10-2011 1:30pm

maygitchell wrote: »

Apologies, I know there are dangers in making generalisations, you are probably a very good student and use your grant wisely towards the cost of your education, my gripe is mos def not with you, in fact I would rather see my tax money go to your pocket to feed you on a daily basis than Bertie or any other gangsters pocket.

But you must agree you yourself are aware of the kind of "student" I mention surely?

I really don't, infact I can't recall many people abusing the grants scheme

mikemac · 13-10-2011 1:32pm

maygitchell for President

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:33pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

So just because their parents were wasters means the children shouldn't be allowed to go to college?

If you hate our country so much why don't you piss off so?

I love my country, always have, Irish through and through.

However this general sense of entitlement is despicable, and yes as you so politely I will piss right off out of here when the time is right and leave the likes of yourself to keep paying your taxes into the hands of gangsters/scumbags.

Also will you turn off the light when your the last person to leave, cheers

Chuck Stone · 13-10-2011 1:33pm

The working and middle class definately get the most fucked for sure.

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:34pm

poisonedstream wrote: »

Fail - Work at 41% tax...

FYP Son

mikemac · 13-10-2011 1:35pm

maygitchell wrote: »

However this general sense of entitlement is despicable, and yes as you so politely I will piss right off out of here when the time is right and leave the likes of yourself to keep paying your taxes into the hands of gangsters/scumbags.

We will be paying for your parents pension soon enough, just saying

Fishooks12 · 13-10-2011 1:36pm

maygitchell wrote: »

I will piss right off out of here when the time is right and leave the likes of yourself to keep paying your taxes into the hands of gangsters/scumbags.

Also will you turn off the light when your the last person to leave, cheers

Ya all those Nurse, teachers and doctors, gangsters:rolleyes:

TheyKnowMyIP · 13-10-2011 1:37pm

mikemac wrote: »

We will be paying for your parents pension soon enough, just saying

No. These folks will-> http://www.rothschild.com/

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:37pm

mikemac wrote: »

We will be paying for your parents pension soon enough, just saying

About time they got something from the state.....

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:41pm

In fact I hope my parents live for 50 years after retirement so they might actually make their tax money back

im invisible · 13-10-2011 1:43pm

not me, not lately anyway....

mikemac · 13-10-2011 1:44pm

No matter where you travel to, you take yourself with you

Let's hope you get an attitude change and stop judging people when you arrive in your new country OP

Celly Smunt · 13-10-2011 1:45pm

isn't everybody the ordinary joe when they want to be?

we don't have it too tough.

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:45pm

mikemac wrote: »

No matter where you travel to, you take yourself with you

Let's hope you get an attitude change and stop judging people when you arrive in your new country OP

Why, are they all dole scrounging grant claimers abroad too?

Celly Smunt · 13-10-2011 1:46pm

maygitchell wrote: »

Why, are they all dole scrounging grant claimers abroad too?

i know a few irish living in England who are actually.

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:49pm

Never judged anyone in my life tbh, except of course for good-for-nothings's now thats a different matter

I think il be welcomed with open arms in whatever country i reside due to having a top class degree and qualification so i wont be a drain on the social welfare system in wherever it is I end up.

You make sure and pay your taxes and keep all those claimers on the dole and with free medicine mmmkkkayy?

the groutch · 13-10-2011 1:51pm

The hookers

Fighting Irish · 13-10-2011 1:51pm

poisonedstream wrote: »

Fail - Work for minimum wage and tell me you and your parents with a comfortable lifestyle are the worst off.

But the point is, his parents are paying 41% tax

Fishooks12 · 13-10-2011 1:52pm

maygitchell wrote: »

Never judged anyone in my life tbh, except of course for good-for-nothings's now thats a different matter

I think il be welcomed with open arms in whatever country i reside due to having a top class degree and qualification so i wont be a drain on the social welfare system in wherever it is I end up.

You make sure and pay your taxes and keep all those claimers on the dole and with free medicine mmmkkkayy?

Bit of a cocky right wing wanker aren't we?

Should we sterilise the "good for nothings" mein fuhrer?

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 1:54pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Bit of a cocky right wing wanker aren't we?

Should we sterilise the "good for nothings" mein fuhrer?

Ja, I would take them out of zeir homes and line them up on the strasse before shooting them

Cocky - mos def not, in fact I challenge you to find one iota of cockyness.

Now excuse me troll, some of us have to get back to work to keep your arse warm with heating allowance...

Fishooks12 · 13-10-2011 1:57pm

maygitchell wrote: »

Ja, I would take them out of zeir homes and line them up on the strasse before shooting them

Cocky - mos def not, in fact I challenge you to find one iota of cockyness.

Now excuse me troll, some of us have to get back to work to keep your arse warm with heating allowance...

I'm a student journalist you cretin, I have never claimed benefits in my life

not cocky eh? Have a read through your previous posts there like a good little fascist

TheyKnowMyIP · 13-10-2011 1:57pm

Deploy Ze Zyklon B

Celly Smunt · 13-10-2011 1:58pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

I'm a student journalist you cretin, I have never claimed benefits in my life

not cocky eh? Have a read through your previous posts there like a good little fascist

Ah,there goes your Daily mail job

Fishooks12 · 13-10-2011 1:59pm

maygitchell wrote: »

I think il be welcomed with open arms in whatever country i reside due to having a top class degree and qualification

Ya you're right I have failed to find one iota of cockiness in any of your posts :rolleyes:

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 2:00pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

I'm a student journalist you cretin, I have never claimed benefits in my life

not cocky eh? Have a read through your previous posts there like a good little fascist

"student journalist"

:rolleyes:

Thank you and goodnight!

Ps. Yeah Im a fascist, a superhero fascist who fights inequality and injustice, and one day im gonna come round and blast you with piss and steal your grant cheque, much love!

TheyKnowMyIP · 13-10-2011 2:00pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Ya you're right I have failed to find one iota of cockiness in any of your posts :rolleyes:

Who gives a ****e. He has a point. Leave the PC touchy crap to the bleeding heart liberals. Yes, right wing isn't as bad as it's made out to be. Scrounging off the scratcher for years on end willingly isn't a goal anybody should aspire to.

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 2:01pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Ya you're right I have failed to find one iota of cockiness in any of your posts :rolleyes:

Ok because im a fair man i suppose i was cocky in saying i have a top class degree but thats the only thing i have in life along with a student loan, and i worked my arse off for my degree so why not be proud of it? Im just badass like that

Fishooks12 · 13-10-2011 2:02pm

maygitchell wrote: »

"student journalist"

:rolleyes:

Thank you and goodnight!

Ps. Yeah Im a fascist, a superhero fascist who fights inequality and injustice, and one day im gonna come round and blast you with piss and steal your grant cheque, much love!

why the quotations over "student journalist"?

is a BA in Journalism in TCD not good enough to be deemed socially acceptable in the eyes of you a "quality degree holder"

The Taxpayer · 13-10-2011 2:03pm

maygitchell wrote: »

I never got ONE CENT from the state bar my child allowance over the years......this general sense of entitlement is despicable......

I take it you've paid back the full economic cost of your education in taxes already?

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 2:03pm

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

Who gives a ****e. He has a point. Leave the PC touchy crap to the bleeding heart liberals. Yes, right wing isn't as bad as it's made out to be. Scrounging off the scratcher for years on end willingly isn't a goal anybody should aspire to.

Me and you for president and vice president mos def, no more bull**** nama or protection of lazy individuals, and a fairer social welfare system for all, helping those that are in need, and when i say "in need" i mean it in the sense of food nappies etc. not booze

TheyKnowMyIP · 13-10-2011 2:03pm

Most TOP journalists don't have a degree in journalism.

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 2:04pm

The Taxpayer wrote: »

I take it you've paid back the full economic cost of your education in taxes already?

Oh im getting there dont you worry

maygitchell · 13-10-2011 2:05pm

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

Most TOP journalists don't have a degree in journalism.

True Dat, probably cause journalism is a bull**** degree anyway, id imagine the best get their experience on the job

TheyKnowMyIP · 13-10-2011 2:05pm

The Taxpayer wrote: »

I take it you've paid back the full economic cost of your education in taxes already?

I don't think you quite understand the concept of a loan.

Loan + interest = some initial pain.

He worked hard, that degree will serve him well in years to come. Somewhere else no doubt.

Who gets really screwed in Ireland

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