Trouble Brewing - Dark Arts - Availability

subway

hi, can anyone tell me about the availability of this beer?
have heard much about it but havent had the chance to try it yet. keep expecting to find it but haven't to date.

i would have it either draft or bottled (preferably bottled to enjoy at home).

any suggestions, and is it really as good as the rumors?

BeerNut

Their stockist list says L. Mulligan Grocer, the Bull & Castle and Against the Grain in Dublin, plus Harry's in Inishowen.

It doesn't exist bottled.

n97 mini

That web page isn't accurate either. Several places that have Ór also have Dark Arts, but the web page just says Ór.

the beer revolu

The Abbot's in Cork have it pretty much all the time now.

LaBaguette

In Dublin, I've seen it a few days ago in MJ O'Neill's (Suffolk st) and it sometimes pops up in the Porterhouse Temple Bar.

subway

Bull and castle didn't even know what it is.
I Was in porterhouse too but no room to sit down and eat so had to move on

I saw a thread when searching suggesting some of their beers are available bottled but i guess that's just or?

I'll try drop into atg or lmg if I get a chance.

Thanks for the replies

rubadub

subway wrote: »

Bull and castle didn't even know what it is.

I asked a young barman there and they said they didn't have it, seemed to know it, or been asked before about it. I expected them to have it so just ordered like I had seen it. This is probably the best way to go about it though, walk into pubs and ask (preferably the manager) for it, and act all shocked they don't stock it, like they are fools not to -which they are!

subway

BeerNut

subway wrote: »

Bull and castle didn't even know what it is.

rubadub wrote: »

I asked a young barman there and they said they didn't have it

I'm surprised. I ordered one yesterday when I was having lunch downstairs and they brought it straight away.

It's on the bar upstairs. Pointing at the tap and saying "This one" gets round the staff-not-knowing-what-it-is factor.

rubadub

BeerNut wrote: »

It's on the bar upstairs.

Thats good to hear, I was actually upstairs when I asked, perhaps they were just out of it at the time. (this was maybe 2 months ago)

I think I was in whelans and saw galway hooker, but they were out of it, building up my hopes and dashing them down to nothing :mad:;)

subway

Thanks for the extra info. I dragged the oh all the way up try it and it was the first thing I asked for when the waitress came over.
She just said "know nothing about it, here's the beer menu" and in fairness it wasn't on it.

Will go on a little wander this Saturday methinks

BeerNut

subway wrote: »

here's the beer menu

I really wonder why beer speciality places bother with those things. They're always out of date, probably before they reach the tables.

rubadub

BeerNut wrote: »

They're always out of date, probably before they reach the tables.

Thats why I like against the grain, they at least have the ability to easily update them (for those who have not been in there they have a bunch of clipboards with printed out A4 sheets of all beers sorted by country.)

Dunno if they do keep it up to date though, they should have a specials page on it to highlight updates.

Technocentral

rubadub wrote: »

Thats good to hear, I was actually upstairs when I asked, perhaps they were just out of it at the time. (this was maybe 2 months ago)

I think I was in whelans and saw galway hooker, but they were out of it, building up my hopes and dashing them down to nothing :mad:;)

Were out of it last two times I was there too, beginning to wonder if they even stock it anymore.

BeerNut

rubadub wrote: »

they have a bunch of clipboards with printed out A4 sheets of all beers sorted by country.

That's the bottles. Big fan of ordering bottled beer in the pub, are yeh? :P :P :P

The draught range, including guest taps, plus prices, is all on blackboards above the bar. Easily read and always up to date.

_blank_

Was in ATG for the first time this weekend, just before a work night out over in The Village.

Bar staff are friendly, but they all seemed a little rushed, like bees buzzing around the bar, but it wasn't even busy. Also, one of the barmen had never tasted Dark Arts :eek:

Is the food nice in there?

BeerNut

I've always found the food to be pretty decent. The burgers are particularly good.

rubadub

BeerNut wrote: »

The burgers are particularly good.

In some other thread it was said (maybe by yourself) that ATG own one or more "gourmet" type burger bars in cork or somewhere, so should be the same standard.

Speaking of food there, they have that soup & sandwich deal on again
http://www.geodeals.ie/deals/639?utm_campaign=notification&gnt=XU1WaxmIRwZsfW0TqeUfjCMVOIQqSDe2&utm_content=156&utm_source=geodeals&utm_medium=email&gct=BkjjBcsaJsnKCEOz5ZG55Gy1CQN9IcRn&utm_weight=0.013

but it is quite limited as to when you can avail of the offer.

BeerNut

rubadub wrote: »

In some other thread it was said (maybe by yourself) that ATG own one or more "gourmet" type burger bars in cork or somewhere

That would be The Mill (formerly Mustard) in Galway. It's a proper restaurant rather than a burger joint. Although it's disappeared from the group website. I wonder have they closed it.

Update: Confirmed via Facebook. Closed on 24 September.

Black Sheep

I've eaten in ATG a few times - thumbs up ... The menu changes fairly sharpish but things like the asian offerings (chicken curries etc) and homemade chips remain consistently good.

Not really a place I'd go to eat versus go to drink, if that makes sense, but if you do want to grab something it's certainly good food (especially for the money).

Actually around that neck of the woods you're spoiled for choice in terms of good value eats... Bobo's, Green Nineteen, Burrito 'n Blues...

tony 2 tone

rubadub wrote: »

In some other thread it was said (maybe by yourself) that ATG own one or more "gourmet" type burger bars in cork or somewhere, so should be the same standard.

Speaking of food there, they have that soup & sandwich deal on again
http://www.geodeals.ie/deals/639?utm_campaign=notification&gnt=XU1WaxmIRwZsfW0TqeUfjCMVOIQqSDe2&utm_content=156&utm_source=geodeals&utm_medium=email&gct=BkjjBcsaJsnKCEOz5ZG55Gy1CQN9IcRn&utm_weight=0.013

but it is quite limited as to when you can avail of the offer.

ATG also does a soup and a sandwich special each day for 6 euro, different sandwich each day, not the ones on the menu though. You have to go in and ask.
Have been in a few times for lunch during the week and on a Sunday. Food is fast and has always been very good. The roastbeef sandwich is a winner with me.
One complant is could do with more chips in a portion.

As for the Dark Arts, had it in ATG and it was like black coloured water, flat and tasteless. Got it in the Bull and Castle and it was completly different, nice creamy pint. This was about 2 weeks ago.

BeerNut

Bottled Dark Arts hit the shelves today, in DrinkStore at least.

ronano

nice gonna check it out during the week thanks for info

BeardySi

yup, got the tweet from trouble about it yesterday, hopefulyy I can find some in Galway over christmas!

_blank_

:eek:

I need to find some in time for Xmas

McHugh's?

subway

i've mailed mchughs this morning, not sure what they are like about getting back.
will be in the local one tonight anyway if they dont get back to me.

BeerNut

I see Cathal McHugh on Twitter asking them for a delivery, so I'd say it'll be there in the next day or so.

subway

woohoo!

mchughs wrote:

Thanks for the enquiry. Trouble Dark Arts will be delivered to our shops at 6pm this evening and will be available from then. We hope to see you over the weekend to pick up our latest addition.

KJ

I picked some up in mchughs the other day. They also still have some bellringer left.

Mr Simpson

They have it in McHughs at the artane roundabout

Ruben Remus

So, has anyone drank any of this in bottles yet? Opinions?

John Mason

lads, are you all sure this has been released???

Probus Wines had a bit of a meltdown when i told him it was released in bottles last week. it was the first he heard of if.


Sweeneys Winemerchants told it me i was mistaken that it hadnt been released!!!

am currently waiting on Probus to get back to me, they are going to phone Peter in Trouble Brewing to read him the riot act

subway

ive a stack of empties here that would agree its been released
its as good as the draught IMO

blueshed

picked up 6 btls in the wine cellar Maynooth.had 2 of them last night and was impressed.

will be in maynooth again today and going to get more,then over to Dunboyne and stock up on coffee and oatmeal from dungarvan.

ciaran76

I bought the last of the coffee and oatmeal from the fridge in Dunboyne. I am sure he has more.

blueshed

ciaran76 wrote: »

I bought the last of the coffee and oatmeal from the fridge in Dunboyne. I am sure he has more.

you bought my coffee and oatmeal

RonanC

Are there any stockists of Or or Dark Arts near the brewery in Clane at all? Will be in Naas over Christmas.

ciaran76

blueshed wrote: »

you bought my coffee and oatmeal

He did say some mad fella come asked me to order it in so I assume he means you :P

Handy having it so close to where I live. I told him he needs to get another few more in and he seemed open to it but could have just been passing me off as a crazy beer drinker.

blueshed

RonanC wrote: »

Are there any stockists of Or or Dark Arts near the brewery in Clane at all? Will be in Naas over Christmas.

its brewed in Allenwood and neither of the 2 off licenses or pub stock it.

a small off license in Maynooth which is 25mins from Naas has both Or and Dark arts a €2.99 a btl.

blueshed

ciaran76 wrote: »

He did say some mad fella come asked me to order it in so I assume he means you :P

Handy having it so close to where I live. I told him he needs to get another few more in and he seemed open to it but could have just been passing me off as a crazy beer drinker.

that could be me ok.a few months back i asked him could he get Dungarvan or O Haras and within 2 weeks had all 3 Dungarvan beers.

a few weeks after that he got all the Thwaites and shuttle is my favourite.

i mentioned galway hooker to him and they now stock it.

went in last week and they had the coffee and oatmeal plus 6packs of all 3 beers from 8 degrees.

they also have great advice on wine and put me in the right direction on 5 or 6 different btls.

Fall_Guy

blueshed wrote: »

its brewed in Allenwood and neither of the 2 off licenses or pub stock it.

a small off license in Maynooth which is 25mins from Naas has both Or and Dark arts a €2.99 a btl.

Hi blueshed, is that the off-licence at the college end of the town near rebel pizza?Does it have a good selection of Irish beers? Might drop in this evening if there are a few to choose from.

blueshed

Fall_Guy wrote: »

Hi blueshed, is that the off-licence at the college end of the town near rebel pizza?Does it have a good selection of Irish beers? Might drop in this evening if there are a few to choose from.

ye thats the one the wine cellar between the garda station and dunnes.

got both trouble brewing-all the o haras at €3.50 a btl-and a few from the north like belfast blonde-headless dog-titanic quater.

also got a little selection of english ales at 4 for a tenner.suffolk strong ale is my favourite.

BaZmO*

Had a bottle of it earlier and it's beautiful. It's actually nicer than the draught version, less aggressively carbonated.

Technocentral

Just had a bottle compares favourably too, but not quite as nice as the draught version.

BaZmO*

Nothing like mixed reviews eh?

Well at least we're both agreed that it's a great beer!

Knifey Spoony

Anybody come across this in Cork?

I did have it in the Bierhaus a couple of months ago when they had it on draught and would love to try the bottle version.

Technocentral

BaZmO* wrote: »

Nothing like mixed reviews eh?

Well at least we're both agreed that it's a great beer!

As the man said: "It's all good".

BeardySi

Anyone know if it's available in Galway yet?

evercloserunion

BeerNut wrote: »

That's the bottles. Big fan of ordering bottled beer in the pub, are yeh? :P :P :P

The draught range, including guest taps, plus prices, is all on blackboards above the bar. Easily read and always up to date.

Is there an issue with ordering bottled beer in a pub?

BeerNut

evercloserunion wrote: »

Is there an issue with ordering bottled beer in a pub?

It's often daftly expensive.

deRanged

Knifey Spoony wrote: »

Anybody come across this in Cork?
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bradleys on north main street have it.