Rory Best injury - Collar Bone

danthefan · 02-10-2011 4:37pm

GerM wrote: »

Have to tend to agree. Why is someone like BOD left on the pitch when we're winning 26-6 until the 74th minute? And Healy, who had treatment again today after recovering from a damaged eye 2 weeks ago left on until the 72nd? Just seems really pushing it.

Was it the same eye even?

RachaelVO · 02-10-2011 4:51pm

jk86 wrote: »

What the hell does that mean?? I won't be able to sleep now...

I dunno, but loads of people have asked him, haven't seen a reply het.

Brewster · 02-10-2011 5:02pm

GerM wrote: »

Have to tend to agree. Why is someone like BOD left on the pitch when we're winning 26-6 until the 74th minute? And Healy, who had treatment again today after recovering from a damaged eye 2 weeks ago left on until the 72nd? Just seems really pushing it.

When you have someone of Trimble's ability on bench it is all the more surprising..

peterireland · 02-10-2011 5:20pm

Could be an issue with Sean Cronin, he took a big blow around 70 mins, rib or something?

Monty Burnz · 02-10-2011 5:26pm

peterireland wrote: »

Could be an issue with Sean Cronin, he took a big blow around 70 mins, rib or something?

I'd actually rather that than lose Ross or Healy.

padraig.od · 02-10-2011 5:31pm

Could be a citing rather than an injury?

Monty Burnz · 02-10-2011 5:37pm

padraig.od wrote: »

Could be a citing rather than an injury?

They might cite Healy for attacking Ghiraldini's fingers with his eyes. Or for smacking Bergamasco's fist with his nose.

padraig.od · 02-10-2011 5:40pm

Monty Burnz wrote: »

They might cite Healy for attacking Ghiraldini's fingers with his eyes. Or for smacking Bergamasco's fist with his nose.

he's got a vicious head

overshoot · 02-10-2011 5:50pm

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/rugby/2011/1002/1224305134835.html
another link but still no definate he is out

Brewster · 02-10-2011 6:09pm

overshoot wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/rugby/2011/1002/1224305134835.html
another link but still no definate he is out

Won't be confirmed till later tonight I'd imagine, Monday morning in NZ.

:(

thebaz · 02-10-2011 6:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

fully disagree here. If you're calling the above players the first choice

POC -> Cullen isn't near as big a gap as Best -> Cronin
Bowe -> Trimble again
Kearney - > Murphy is a big step, but again not in the same league.
ROG -> Sexton is not even a step, as it's a crazily close decision already.

You're completely underestimating just how good Best has been and how important he is for our game.

did things fall apart when Cronin came on ? - i thought he did just fine

and i never said bests form was poor - he is/was having a super WC

RoryMc23 · 02-10-2011 6:32pm

Leen is being such a child. "I know something you dont!!" Why doesn't he just say who the other injury worry is?

Brewster · 02-10-2011 7:01pm

thebaz wrote: »

did things fall apart when Cronin came on ? - i thought he did just fine

and i never said bests form was poor - he is/was having a super WC

Coming up against the Welsh line out is a serious step up Baz. AW Jones, Charteris and Davies are some of the best lineout operators around and will target Cronin. The Italian pack were tired when Cronin came on today.

davegrohl48 · 02-10-2011 7:06pm

Will the smaller Cronin allow Ross to push in more effectively? I notice Ross tends to try and push in towards the opposition hooker. Some props on here may let us know is it an advantage to have a hooker who's a bit smaller?
It's a squad game. He can be a useful ball carrier that sides are not prepared for. Sides are going to be watching Healy, Ferris and SOB like hawks. If Cronin breaks a tackle he very quickly dashes on into open space. Reportedly as fast as Fionn Carr over 20 metres.

Monty Burnz · 02-10-2011 7:19pm

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Reportedly as fast as Fionn Carr over 20 metres.

At which point he has to stop to eat a bacon sandwich.

cython · 02-10-2011 7:22pm

RoryMc23 wrote: »

Leen is being such a child. "I know something you dont!!" Why doesn't he just say who the other injury worry is?

I agree with your sentiment, but I would wonder is he actually referring to a possibility of a citing (presumably for Healy, though anything he did was reactionary, and not over the top in light of what was missed) rather than injury? I know the normal citation window is 48 hours after the conclusion of the match, but is there a reduced 36 hour window for the world cup? Tournament organisers have that discretion to vary it between 12 and 48 hours, and 36 hours is a very specific window for him to quote.

If that is the case, he could simply be stirring the proverbial to get attention as a news editor!

Brewster · 02-10-2011 7:23pm

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Will the smaller Cronin allow Ross to push in more effectively? I notice Ross tends to try and push in towards the opposition hooker. Some props on here may let us know is it an advantage to have a hooker who's a bit smaller?
It's a squad game. He can be a useful ball carrier that sides are not prepared for. Sides are going to be watching Healy, Ferris and SOB like hawks. If Cronin breaks a tackle he very quickly dashes on into open space. Reportedly as fast as Fionn Carr over 20 metres.

Not really Dave, essentially the role of the hooker at scrum time is to support his prop in targeting the opposition prop by driving at a particular angle and trying to drive a wedge between the opposition hooker and prop destabilising their scrum. Healy and Ross will miss Best terribly. Cronin will do ok in the loose, but he lacks real physical strength and tends to spill alot of ball in contact.

Monty Burnz · 02-10-2011 7:30pm

Brewster wrote: »

Cronin will do ok in the loose, but he lacks real physical strength and tends to spill alot of ball in contact.

This is my abiding image of Cronin alright. Sprinting like a maniac through a gap and then dropping the ball with the predictability of the sun rising.

Brewster · 02-10-2011 7:47pm

Monty Burnz wrote: »

This is my abiding image of Cronin alright. Sprinting like a maniac through a gap and then dropping the ball with the predictability of the sun rising.

He is next best option, so I hope he can step up to the plate. He will have a great pack around him which hopefully will inspire him.

gally74 · 02-10-2011 7:54pm

Cronin can step up, did well today, let's hope he's not injured swell,

Clareman · 02-10-2011 7:59pm

Just watching the highlights on RTÉ, for Earls first try you could see Best going down clutching his collar bone, doesn't look great, but he got back up and ran across the pitch

Monty Burnz · 02-10-2011 8:12pm

Clareman wrote: »

doesn't look great, but he got back up and ran across the pitch

...screaming and weeping like a girl. :pac:

Seriously, I hope that means it's not a fracture - he must have been possessed if he got up again to play and it was.

Clareman · 02-10-2011 8:15pm

It wasn't that he got up to play, he went down and grabbed his shoulder, then you could see him going back into position, he must have been watching Seanie McMahon

Brewster · 02-10-2011 8:21pm

Clareman wrote: »

It wasn't that he got up to play, he went down and grabbed his shoulder, then you could see him going back into position, he must have been watching Seanie McMahon

Somehow I doubt if he was watching Seanie! Conor O Shea more or less said he was out on rte highlights programme. I'm sure he would have heard by now, certainly Horgan would have been txting the lads and would have news of any injury.

.ak · 02-10-2011 8:38pm

Well watched it again, if did get back up off his feet quick enough.

If you break a colar bone you don't get up, simple as. But if he's in hospital its gotta be serious enough for him to be out atleast a week.

Also, possibility that healy might get cited for the shoulder charge he put on bergamasco trying to clear him out, but he didn't attempt to wrap his arms around. It was after bergamasco threw a few wild digs

WavyDavy · 02-10-2011 8:39pm

Shane Horgan on RTE saying the vibes about Rory Best aren't good but we'll have to wait until the morning to find out more. So nothing confirmed yet.

Clareman · 02-10-2011 8:42pm

Everyone should watch Seanie

Looked bad enough to me, hopefully he'll be ok but I doubt it, at least we still have 2 hookers and 4 props out there so we can continue doing live scrum practise.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 02-10-2011 8:44pm

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Will the smaller Cronin allow Ross to push in more effectively? I notice Ross tends to try and push in towards the opposition hooker. Some props on here may let us know is it an advantage to have a hooker who's a bit smaller?

Strauss isn't a big man Ross and Healy do well propping outside him

irishbucsfan · 02-10-2011 8:48pm

.ak wrote: »

If you break a colar bone you don't get up, simple as.

A myth Willie John dispelled a long time ago!

Clareman · 02-10-2011 8:52pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

A myth Willie John dispelled a long time ago!

And Seanie McMahon since then, and many jockies down through the years

Rory Best injury - Collar Bone

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