What will be the last straw?.

Jimmy Garlic · 17-09-2011 04:49AM #1

Irish people have taken it without much if any response for years. The corruption, the lies, then a "new" government that continues on with the same practices. A servile government that obviously does not work for the Irish people.

Historically it has taken a lot before the people of this country finally snap. The question is.. What will be the last straw?.

Xpsgamer · 17-09-2011 04:49AM

When a gay ex banker republican runs for the presidential election

TheZohanS · 17-09-2011 04:56AM

I honestly believe the next budget will push so many people into the red that we'll have a mass revolt. As I've said before; the last budget was an election budget and with the forthcoming budget people will revolt. There's only so much people can take.

LH Pathe · 17-09-2011 05:02AM

We already have had the straw that broke the camels back. now she's always had the hump, but she's just not gonna take it anymore. so strike out sister, raise your placard with your camel-toe.

Jimmy Garlic · 17-09-2011 05:03AM

TheZohan wrote: »

I honestly believe the next budget will push so many people into the red that we'll have a mass revolt. As I've said before; the last budget was an election budget and with the forthcoming budget people will revolt. There's only so much people can take.

There is no doubt, they will rub peoples noses in it.

The Internet Explorer · 17-09-2011 05:09AM

The last straw will be the one who is the last to fall. All straws will come together and fight. Big straws, small straws, bendy straws and more. They will fight to the death until but one straw remains.

There will be straws from all over the world. They will come together and fight. They will fight for their lives. But the question remains, what will be the last straw ?

The last straw will be the one who is last to fall.

Xpsgamer · 17-09-2011 05:25AM

The Internet Explorer wrote: »

The last straw will be the one who is the last to fall. All straws will come together and fight. Big straws, small straws, bendy straws and more. They will fight to the death until but one straw remains.

There will be straws from all over the world. They will come together and fight. They will fight for their lives. But the question remains, what will be the last straw ?

The last straw will be the one who is last to fall.

Omega Straw

Pherekydes · 17-09-2011 05:25AM

If Kerry AND Utd win on Sunday...

Napper Hawkins · 17-09-2011 05:33AM

The Internet Explorer wrote: »

The last straw will be the one who is the last to fall. All straws will come together and fight. Big straws, small straws, bendy straws and more. They will fight to the death until but one straw remains.

There will be straws from all over the world. They will come together and fight. They will fight for their lives. But the question remains, what will be the last straw ?

The last straw will be the one who is last to fall.

Dude, that's like...****ing yeah, man.

Jimmy Garlic · 17-09-2011 06:16AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

If Kerry AND Utd win on Sunday...

Sad isn't it. The oblivion.

Elmidena · 17-09-2011 06:27AM

Mary Harney on Page 3. Though that'll be a mass suicide so not sure if counts.....

Agent Smith · 17-09-2011 06:32AM

Looks like we'll have to order more straws...

parrai · 17-09-2011 06:39AM

Property tax:- that will start off a 100 E a year, and then like what happened in the UK will rise over the coming years (sneakily), water rates (that will require a water meter, more euros) septic tank (that requires a "one off registration fee of 50 E" but will have to be re registered every few years!!! (Real irish that wan) not to mention if they decide to tell you, you need to change your septic tank or make adjustments (untold euros) 3/4/5 (who knows?!) more years of budgets taking 3-5 billion in cuts each time, and now the moment we've all been waiting for, another stealth tax, A Radio licence.... They are taking the Irish people for gob****es... And the IMF must be laughing, Just give the Irish government a pat on the head and a gold star for raping the Irish people, every twist and turn of the road.... If this isn't the final straw, I dunno what is...

meglome · 17-09-2011 06:52AM

This stuff is funny. We're overspending by 15billion a year, just as well the Germans are paying for it or we'd be feeling some actually pain and not just doing a lot of moaning.

Riamfada · 17-09-2011 07:13AM

Revolt In Ireland won't happen. The students are too wealthy and apathetic, the old people can't move fast enough and the rest of us don't really want the hassle of setting up and alternative to democracy.

If hitler was still around there was a man who could organise a good putch. So in short what Ireland needs in a new Hitler.

Zeig Hei and all that lark, where's me leather riding boots.

Jimmy Garlic · 17-09-2011 07:17AM

meglome wrote: »

This stuff is funny. We're overspending by 15billion a year, just as well the Germans are paying for it or we'd be feeling some actually pain and not just doing a lot of moaning.

Ja, zank got, ze Germans are zo generous. Ja, in five years time ve vill be a theme park.

droicead · 17-09-2011 07:22AM

its never gonna happen..giving 30 billion?? to anglo irish,that was the time.can you imagine ze irish on the streets like the greeks??no

Jimmy Garlic · 17-09-2011 07:49AM

droicead wrote: »

its never gonna happen..giving 30 billion?? to anglo irish,that was the time.can you imagine ze irish on the streets like the greeks??no

Give it time, it will be total chaos, for a while. Historically, when Ireland snaps, it does it in style.

meglome · 17-09-2011 03:33PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Ja, zank got, ze Germans are zo generous. Ja, in five years time ve vill be a theme park.

Ah xenophobia... always makes me want to agree

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Give it time, it will be total chaos, for a while. Historically, when Ireland snaps, it does it in style.

Going onto the streets to stop FF giving a blanket bank guarantee in 2008 would have been a good idea. Because agreeing to cover banks debts when you have no idea how much they are was a terrible idea - then and now. Though we as nation did vote them in 3 times and it wasn't difficult to notice they were an inept corrupt bunch. Right now we get to 'enjoy' the fruits of that decision and no amount of protests will make things go back in time.

How do you think taking to the street would fix anything now? What are the steps we need to follow?

Biggins · 17-09-2011 03:38PM

TheZohan wrote: »

I honestly believe the next budget will push so many people into the red that we'll have a mass revolt. As I've said before; the last budget was an election budget and with the forthcoming budget people will revolt. There's only so much people can take.

I'd like to think so but if you know the story of the frog boiling slowly in a pot of ever warming water and understand its underlying meaning - well thats how our politicians are treating the public with their ever drip, dripping of forthcoming worse and worse things to come...

Blazer · 17-09-2011 03:47PM

Nothing will be the last straw. The Irish people have the mentality of ostriches, they'll just bury their heads in the sand in the hopes they personally avoid what's coming, if they do get hit in the budget they'll say "it could have been worse" and so on and so on.
Politicians are only laughing at the gombeen working class..they'll continue to rape us of our hard earned wages to further fuel their buddies and their own lifestyles at the cost of thousands of lives...
Think I'm exaggerating? How many lives could be saved if Bertie had reined in public sector wages/pensions, state/semi-state owned CEO's, bonuses, the admin staff in the HSE?
We're talking billions of €s wasted and no one lifts a finger. Not even myself I'm ashamed to admit.
We're a complete joke of a nation and it's no wonder other nations ridicule us.

ThinkAboutIt · 17-09-2011 03:51PM

Sc@recrow wrote: »

Nothing will be the last straw. The Irish people have the mentality of ostriches, they'll just bury their heads in the sand in the hopes they personally avoid what's coming, if they do get hit in the budget they'll say "it could have been worse" and so on and so on.
Politicians are only laughing at the gombeen working class..they'll continue to rape us of our hard earned wages to further fuel their buddies and their own lifestyles at the cost of thousands of lives...
Think I'm exaggerating? How many lives could be saved if Bertie had reined in public sector wages/pensions, state/semi-state owned CEO's, bonuses, the admin staff in the HSE?
We're talking billions of €s wasted and no one lifts a finger. Not even myself I'm ashamed to admit.
We're a complete joke of a nation and it's no wonder other nations ridicule us.

We have airports. They are open. Planes have been invented. You can use them.

You are free to leave the country AT ANY MOMENT if you are unhappy with your life. Do not live your whole life in a country you don't like. You only get one life.

You can of course stay and moan on Boards for the rest of your life either. Your choice eh.

aquababe · 17-09-2011 03:51PM

Get up of your feet now !! Have pride in your country again - i'll be voting for Martin!!

Riamfada · 17-09-2011 03:54PM

aquababe wrote: »

Get up of your feet now !! Have pride in your country again - i'll be voting for Martin!!

So will I but probably not by choice.

Karona · 17-09-2011 03:57PM

It's true what they say, thed rich get richer and the poor get poorer!:mad:

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 17-09-2011 04:01PM

There still seems to be a division put between the public/private sector due to this croke park agreement.

it is wrong that the former ministers and anyone else retires gets a massive pension which seems to be immune to cuts for a country that's actually broke,i do think if those in power could bother their backside instead of looking after their own,could introduce some form of tax on these pensions.

The benefit of the last election it did rid some of the traditional names we where used to seeing in the dail so i don't think there will be any independent holding up the budget so they wont get an hospital/road/funding for their county.

The problem is as well the gov is placed in a situation left by the last shower,mixing in the cost of living it seems inevitable that benefits will be cut due to the amount spent in the welfare department even though during the good times the last gov for some odd reason decided to increase payments.

Prime time did a good look at what could be cut,such suggestions where numbers in pub sec and means testing child benefit.forward to 18 mins-

http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1112466

not yet · 17-09-2011 04:01PM

When They stop selling solphadine.............and handing out sleepers.

jive · 17-09-2011 04:03PM

You know what they say... if it's broken, don't fix it. I'll take my free education and run.

Laika1986 · 17-09-2011 04:09PM

I'd imagine the scarecrows would want to get involved

ilovesleep · 17-09-2011 04:12PM

meglome wrote: »

Going onto the streets to stop FF giving a blanket bank guarantee in 2008 would have been a good idea. Because agreeing to cover banks debts when you have no idea how much they are was a terrible idea - then and now. Though we as nation did vote them in 3 times and it wasn't difficult to notice they were an inept corrupt bunch. Right now we get to 'enjoy' the fruits of that decision and no amount of protests will make things go back in time.

How do you think taking to the street would fix anything now? What are the steps we need to follow?

Can I just say about the banking gaurantee when it happened in sept 08. I was extremely very busy with work. That was my life really - just work. And more work. I didn't understand what that bank guarantee was until last year. My fault really. I didn't pay attention to the news nor did I take time out to learn and understand what was happening around me. I sleepwalked right into the mess. I'm sure many others too. Looking back to 08 and 09 conversations with people would been about the weather, the weekend, other people, etc whereas now days conversations with people are mainly about the recession, bankers, developers, politicians, the bank guarantee. Many people did not understand that guarantee and what it meant until it was too frigging late.

Blazer · 17-09-2011 04:13PM

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

We have airports. They are open. Planes have been invented. You can use them.

You are free to leave the country AT ANY MOMENT if you are unhappy with your life. Do not live your whole life in a country you don't like. You only get one life.

You can of course stay and moan on Boards for the rest of your life either. Your choice eh.

You must be a politician....they're the only ones happy to see people emigrating from this country.

ThinkAboutIt · 17-09-2011 04:14PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

Can I just say about the banking gaurantee when it happened in sept 08. I was extremely very busy with work. That was my life really - just work. And more work. I didn't understand what that bank guarantee was until last year. My fault really. I didn't pay attention to the news nor did I take time out to learn and understand what was happening around me. I sleepwalked right into the mess. I'm sure many others too. Looking back to 08 and 09 conversations with people would been about the weather, the weekend, other people, etc whereas now days conversations with people are mainly about the recession, bankers, developers, politicians, the bank guarantee. Many people did not understand that guarantee and what it meant until it was too frigging late.

You mean to say, that if you don't read the papers you don't know WE ARE IN CRISIS AND THE SKY IS FALLING. Amazing. Who would have thought it.

charlemont · 17-09-2011 04:34PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Irish people have taken it without much if any response for years. The corruption, the lies, then a "new" government that continues on with the same practices. A servile government that obviously does not work for the Irish people.

Historically it has taken a lot before the people of this country finally snap. The question is.. What will be the last straw?.

When the Vaseline company goes bust then people will feel the pain !!

Biggins · 17-09-2011 04:42PM

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

We have airports. They are open. Planes have been invented. You can use them.

You are free to leave the country AT ANY MOMENT if you are unhappy with your life. Do not live your whole life in a country you don't like. You only get one life.

You can of course stay and moan on Boards for the rest of your life either. Your choice eh.

Some of us don't do what some might see as a cowards way out occasionally and take the first flight available - rather because of love of our country, we stay and fight/debate for what we see is right.

The answer is not always to run away. It solves nothing.
We could of course also stay and meekly like sheep accept every bit of crap handed upon us, silently.
However some of us choose not to remain silent - sorry of that gets up your nose but it would be better if you learned to live with it.
It happens - we are all not you.

Frankly your post is a cheap, insulting shot that does your argument no good.

ThinkAboutIt · 17-09-2011 04:49PM

Biggins wrote: »

Some of us don't do what some might see as a cowards way out occasionally and take the first flight available - rather because of love of our country, we stay and fight/debate for what we see is right.

The answer is not always to run away. It solves nothing.
We could of course also stay and meekly like sheep accept every bit of crap handed upon us, silently.
However some of us choose not to remain silent - sorry of that gets up your nose but it would be better if you learned to live with it.
It happens - we are all not you.

Frankly your post is a cheap, insulting shot that does your argument no good.

If you are unhappy in a situation you change it. Complaining about the Gov constantly does not change anything.

Biggins · 17-09-2011 04:57PM

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

If you are unhappy in a situation you change it.

I have done a hell of a lot actually - and I continue to do so.
If you bother to do your research, you would find this out.

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

...Complaining about the Gov constantly does not change anything.

:pac:

God bless you - your young.
(Not a crime in itself but you still have a lot to learn I suspect)

ThinkAboutIt · 17-09-2011 05:08PM

We're in recession or whatever you like to call it since 2008. It is now months from 2012. What has changed?

We'll wait and see for the budget for reaction however I still firmly believe moaning about it won't change it.

As I said, if you are unhappy in Ireland you are free to leave. Unfortunately if you don't like the rules here that's just tough I'm afraid. It's not a popular view but that's the nuts and bolts of it.

Biggins · 17-09-2011 05:21PM

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

...As I said, if you are unhappy in Ireland you are free to leave. Unfortunately if you don't like the rules here that's just tough I'm afraid. It's not a popular view but that's the nuts and bolts of it.

Your entitled to that view.
My view of your solution (to just leave) is that it's short-sightedness, crass in posting as a solution and not of any possible advantage to the state in the long run.
With that type of limited thinking, you'd have anyone that speak's up and out, on a plane or boat - exporting perhaps part of the best of our nation into exile.

Great thinking (not)!

charlemont · 17-09-2011 06:19PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Give it time, it will be total chaos, for a while. Historically, when Ireland snaps, it does it in style.

Hopefully...

whubee · 17-09-2011 06:51PM

charlemont wrote: »

Hopefully...

What exactly could we do when we snap? do a london-style riot and smash ourselves up?

default? im not sure that would do much good either.

i dont think we can snap anymore.

parrai · 17-09-2011 09:00PM

meglome wrote: »

This stuff is funny. We're overspending by 15billion a year, just as well the Germans are paying for it or we'd be feeling some actually pain and not just doing a lot of moaning.

Who is moaning, it's a discussion board and we're discussing....

The germans are not paying for it, but imo they will be, when greece defaults and America is not able, (and they won't be) able to pay back their 16/17 TRILLION debt, not to mention Italy, Portugal and Spain...And as regards pain, there are ALOT of people in Ireland who are feeling it at the moment, and when the next budget is introduced, I really don't know what we are going to do as a nation.

I totally agree tho, that taking to the streets is something we don't do well as a country, and to be honest, I think that is a blessing in disguise, cause I think that would only lead to violence which is no good.

As for getting on a plane and running away... Now that's funny.

Geekness1234 · 17-09-2011 09:05PM

When you say revolt do you mean greek style riots or Libya style rebellion?

seraphimvc · 17-09-2011 09:06PM

feel so sad

ireland has given me a lot of good things but now i will probably settle down in uk. spent 1 year on getting a job here but failed. i really wish that i can do something for this country.

Geekness1234 · 17-09-2011 09:09PM

seraphimvc wrote: »

feel so sad ireland has given me a lot of good things but now i will probably settle down in uk. spent 1 year on getting a job here but failed. i really wish that i can do something for this country.

Nothing really you can do,so you shouldn't beat yourself up about it.

jive · 17-09-2011 09:14PM

Meanwhile, in Greece...
http://i.imgur.com/PQxs5.jpg

17-09-2011 09:21PM

Karona wrote: »

It's true what they say, thed rich get richer and the poor get poorer!:mad:

Not really, the money's devaluing quicker than they can stash it away.
You can have all the money in the world, but i's worthless if you can't spend it!

17-09-2011 09:23PM

The last straw will be when your cards stop working and you can't buy anything.
Then all bets are off!

17-09-2011 09:37PM

Domo230 wrote: »

Until I am presented a real alternative im not doing anything

Very wise decision!

Just look at Egypt, they dumped the previous government but the problems are still there!

grenache · 17-09-2011 09:41PM

There'll be no last straw. Irish people have shown themselves to be inherently lazy when it comes to getting anything done. We are also extremely bad organisers.

17-09-2011 09:46PM

grenache wrote: »

There'll be no last straw. Irish people have shown themselves to be inherently lazy when it comes to getting anything done. We are also extremely bad organisers.

There will be! it's just that we need to fall a lot further before enough are sufficiently pissed off to fight!

charlemont · 17-09-2011 09:48PM

whubee wrote: »

What exactly could we do when we snap? do a london-style riot and smash ourselves up?

default? im not sure that would do much good either.

i dont think we can snap anymore.

Rioting wont work here anyway but I'm thinking more along the lines of large protests and those responsible for the economic fiasco being arrested and dealt with accordingly, Think Chauchescu, Yes its a bit far fetched on my behalf but these c*nts are still living the high life on our peoples money.

What will be the last straw?.

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