STOVES questions and answers here(see mod note in post 1)

Peckham

Interesting thread. Thanks.

I got a Heat Design Vitae 18 installed a few weeks ago. Hooked up to back boiler. Standard 3 bed semi detached house, 8 rads. Burning logs.

Have been playing around with it but not getting satisfactory amount of heat. Rads around the house going lukewarm and amount of heat into room is pretty low.

For example I've had it lit for nearly 3 hours today. Put maybe 6 decent sized logs into it over that time. Nice glow and burn going on, but not a lot of heat.

Where am I going wrong? More logs? Start introducing coal? Get installer back?

Plan was that stove would significantly reduce reliance on oil. Doesn't feel it can at the moment.

BarryD

Peckham wrote: »

Interesting thread. Thanks.

I got a Heat Design Vitae 18 installed a few weeks ago. Hooked up to back boiler. Standard 3 bed semi detached house, 8 rads. Burning logs.

Have been playing around with it but not getting satisfactory amount of heat. Rads around the house going lukewarm and amount of heat into room is pretty low.

For example I've had it lit for nearly 3 hours today. Put maybe 6 decent sized logs into it over that time. Nice glow and burn going on, but not a lot of heat.

Where am I going wrong? More logs? Start introducing coal? Get installer back?

Plan was that stove would significantly reduce reliance on oil. Doesn't feel it can at the moment.

Others will have there view but as far as I can judge, firewood is grand for a stove that's heating one room. But if you want a constant heat that will drive a central heating system, you need coal/ anthracite as well. That said, there are obviously pelleted wood boiler systems that do this but I know little about these and how much they use etc.

You get out what you put in minus what you lose up the chimney. A further contributory factor in my exp is the length of time the stove is lit, best suited to a building that's occupied 24 hrs and stove lit early in day or early afternoon etc.

Vote 4 Pedro

Hi,
Looking from a room heater Stove.

We want something simple looking, and something you could have ticking over rather than melting you.

Room size is 5m x 4.8m walls are 2.65m high going to 4.1m high with a vaulted celling. Window size is 2.35m wide x 3.25 high. reasonably well insulated.

Anyone have any experience - good or bad with any of the Cleanburn, Yeoman or Stovax stoves.

The Cleanburn model is the Skagen 6-9kW it's a new model so wondering on the manufacturer in general more than the stove model.

The Yeoman is the CL5 with a 2.5 - 7kW range.

The Stovax might be :-
The Stockton 6 (3-7kW), or the Stockton 7 (4-9kW)
The Huntingdon 28 (3-8kW)
The View 5 (2.5-7kW) or View 8, (4-11kW)

Been looking for a few weeks now and there are models from these manufactures that we like the look of but don't know enough about them to make a decision yet.

Any help much appreciated.

loki7777

HI
Thinking about buying Henley Porto 400 Cassette - shop offered us fiiting to the base of chimney and that would be €1350(stove 950, rest 400). Question is do we need flue liner(the quoted us extra 300) or is it better to take one just in case something would go wrong. House was build in 2008 chimney not used at all so in that place will go Porto.
We won't be getting any surrounding - we will use Stegu decorative stone.

Any one have this stove and stegu and could share some pictures?

Any other cassette stoves in this price?

annetuohy

I would highly recommend the Inis range, great power out of them, great heat very good air control system so you can actually turn it up and down for the room, they have a convection and clean burn system as well as a heavy duty grate so you can successfully burn any fuel. a lot of so called muti fuel stoves wont combust coal correctly. No where near as expensive as the ones you are looking at but are rated the same.

all the ones you have listed are fairly high end stoves, your already in the point of going on aesthetics more so then specifications. really you should be picking the one that is the best matched to your room. you should get the room assessed and they will tell you what kw you need. now if you do this make sure you don't get someone who just comes in and measures the room, thats not assessing. you need a good fitter to check your wntilation check the chimney the pull the drafts, what leads off of the room, i mean something as simple as having an extractor fan can make a difference to the running of your stove.

A good place to ring and ask questions is oriel flues in ardee they run the HETAS training course for fitters and have all the rating books available they are happy to help people with queries.

Vote 4 Pedro wrote: »

Hi,
Looking from a room heater Stove.

We want something simple looking, and something you could have ticking over rather than melting you.

Room size is 5m x 4.8m walls are 2.65m high going to 4.1m high with a vaulted celling. Window size is 2.35m wide x 3.25 high. reasonably well insulated.

Anyone have any experience - good or bad with any of the Cleanburn, Yeoman or Stovax stoves.

The Cleanburn model is the Skagen 6-9kW it's a new model so wondering on the manufacturer in general more than the stove model.

The Yeoman is the CL5 with a 2.5 - 7kW range.

The Stovax might be :-
The Stockton 6 (3-7kW), or the Stockton 7 (4-9kW)
The Huntingdon 28 (3-8kW)
The View 5 (2.5-7kW) or View 8, (4-11kW)

Been looking for a few weeks now and there are models from these manufactures that we like the look of but don't know enough about them to make a decision yet.

Any help much appreciated.

The lips

Did anyone get any word on what the Stanley offer will be at the ploughing championship on Tuesday?

Or remember what it was last year?

Diesel21

I'm in the process of buying a stove in between two at the moment the Stanley Erin,or a Boru stove.
Any first hand experience with eider.which one has better heat output.if eider stove gives any trouble etc etc
Thanks

Vote 4 Pedro

Diesel21 wrote: »

I'm in the process of buying a stove in between two at the moment the Stanley Erin,or a Boru stove.
Any first hand experience with eider.which one has better heat output.if eider stove gives any trouble etc etc
Thanks

I've been looking for a few weeks now and people have said the Boru give trouble and out of all the stove's that's the one I've been warned to stay away from by loads of people, having said all that the father in law has one and he really loves it but he only has it about 12 months. I have ruled it out of my search because of that but I do like the look of them

Diesel21

Vote 4 Pedro wrote: »

I've been looking for a few weeks now and people have said the Boru give trouble and out of all the stove's that's the one I've been warned to stay away from by loads of people, having said all that the father in law has one and he really loves it but he only has it about 12 months. I have ruled it out of my search because of that but I do like the look of them

Interesting to here that.i had yet to talk to someone with bad reports about the Boru.what sort of trouble do the give do ya know.
Stanley always had a good name but is it true that in the past few years there manufactured in China
It's a lot of money so want to make the right decision first off

Vote 4 Pedro

Diesel21 wrote: »

Interesting to here that.i had yet to talk to someone with bad reports about the Boru.what sort of trouble do the give do ya know.
Stanley always had a good name but is it true that in the past few years there manufactured in China
It's a lot of money so want to make the right decision first off

Like I said the father in law has one and he has no complaints at all and he is a real fussy fecker, we were set to get one as he was happy enough with his but just went looking in general and without us mentioning a word about Boru we were told in a few shops "well whatever you buy stay away from Boru" we asked why and they just gave the impression that they had bad experiences with them, "well we won't stock them any more" type thing,
Also my neighbour told me they were giving trouble, works for some building company that does renovations and they fitted about 60 in some development about a year ago, he told me that six had been faulty in different ways, I didn't bother asking to much as I had already been told by the shops as well so I just ruled them out.
We have also been put off the Stovax as well but mainly over the price.

It's a shame as we like the look of them and without going to the shops, maybe ordered online we would be all set now, stove in etc. but I heard enough to put me off.

I think we are now going to buy a Cleanburn Skagen 9kW. or an Arrow Ecoburn plus 9 or 11, (opinions please)

It seems like everyone has something to say about stoves but if you listen to all the people you will never buy anything.
This stove thing has really wrecked my head.

BarryD

Diesel21 wrote: »

I'm in the process of buying a stove in between two at the moment the Stanley Erin,or a Boru stove.
Any first hand experience with eider.which one has better heat output.if eider stove gives any trouble etc etc
Thanks

Waterford Erin installed for c.15 years - solid and heavy build. Manouevring it into place required a bit of effort. No particular trouble, though a I'd need to replace the grate sometime - couple of holes opened up last year or two. No idea if it was made in Ireland or overseas and can't compare - most people will just have one larger stove like this.

Mashie

Hey guys. Came across a Hota 7kw insert for e775. Cant seem to find much info on them and their website is under construction. Anyone got experience of them?

cml387

We had a gas fire installed in the house originally, but it's a standard chimney which we had the option of fitting a gas or ordinary fireplace.
I wonder if a solid fuel stove/fire could replace the gas fire, and if more flue work is involved. We seem to be getting conflicting advice.

Sanchez83

Peckham wrote: »

Interesting thread. Thanks.

I got a Heat Design Vitae 18 installed a few weeks ago. Hooked up to back boiler. Standard 3 bed semi detached house, 8 rads. Burning logs.

Have been playing around with it but not getting satisfactory amount of heat. Rads around the house going lukewarm and amount of heat into room is pretty low.

For example I've had it lit for nearly 3 hours today. Put maybe 6 decent sized logs into it over that time. Nice glow and burn going on, but not a lot of heat.

Where am I going wrong? More logs? Start introducing coal? Get installer back?

Plan was that stove would significantly reduce reliance on oil. Doesn't feel it can at the moment.

You are not putting enough fuel into it or your logs are high in moisture.
A stove is like a car,will burn a larger amount of fuel getting started and requires less once you get into 5th gear.
You would prob need to be burning 4 logs the first hour,3 the second,2 the third assuming they are good and dry.

Sanchez83

Vote 4 Pedro wrote: »

Hi,
Looking from a room heater Stove.

We want something simple looking, and something you could have ticking over rather than melting you.

Room size is 5m x 4.8m walls are 2.65m high going to 4.1m high with a vaulted celling. Window size is 2.35m wide x 3.25 high. reasonably well insulated.

Anyone have any experience - good or bad with any of the Cleanburn, Yeoman or Stovax stoves.

The Cleanburn model is the Skagen 6-9kW it's a new model so wondering on the manufacturer in general more than the stove model.

The Yeoman is the CL5 with a 2.5 - 7kW range.

The Stovax might be :-
The Stockton 6 (3-7kW), or the Stockton 7 (4-9kW)
The Huntingdon 28 (3-8kW)
The View 5 (2.5-7kW) or View 8, (4-11kW)

Been looking for a few weeks now and there are models from these manufactures that we like the look of but don't know enough about them to make a decision yet.

Any help much appreciated.

Your room dimensions would mean you need a 6/7kw stove.
This would narrow it down to Stockton 7,View 8 or Skagen 9.
I've seen the Skagen once before but don't know much about them.
The View 8 would be a popular stove so would be the one I would recommend.

Stovax and Yeoman are the same company.

Sanchez83

loki7777 wrote: »

HI
Thinking about buying Henley Porto 400 Cassette - shop offered us fiiting to the base of chimney and that would be €1350(stove 950, rest 400). Question is do we need flue liner(the quoted us extra 300) or is it better to take one just in case something would go wrong. House was build in 2008 chimney not used at all so in that place will go Porto.
We won't be getting any surrounding - we will use Stegu decorative stone.

Any one have this stove and stegu and could share some pictures?

Any other cassette stoves in this price?

The stove will operate better with a flue liner.
Your chimney is probably in good condition so the reason for the liner is based on higher stove performance.

Sanchez83

The lips wrote: »

Did anyone get any word on what the Stanley offer will be at the ploughing championship on Tuesday?

Or remember what it was last year?

I have heard that they are only running the offer this year with a retailer from Laois who will have a stand at the ploughing champs.

The lips

Sanchez83 wrote: »

The reason for the liner is based on higher stove performance.

How much better?

Sanchez83

The lips wrote: »

How much better?

Not possible to quantify until after I am afraid.
Every house and chimney is different.
Reducing your chimney from 8" to 6" makes air control better plus you have less chimney to heat meaning more heat for your room.

Bigcheeze

Sanchez83 wrote: »

The stove will operate better with a flue liner.
Your chimney is probably in good condition so the reason for the liner is based on higher stove performance.

Looking at stoves at the moment. Have been told by large Dublin shop that they will inspect chimney with cctv and lining is only a safety issue not performance.

Hard to get conclusive evidence on this issue.

Sanchez83

Inspecting a chimney is only a safety issue,correct.
It can't determine improved performance.
But from experience,I can tell you a flexible liner improves the performance of 9/10 stoves.

loki7777

And it cost only about € 300- a lot cheaper then rebuilding chimney.

Mashie

Mashie wrote: »

Hey guys. Came across a Hota 7kw insert for e775. Cant seem to find much info on them and their website is under construction. Anyone got experience of them?

Anyone?

Bigcheeze

loki7777 wrote: »

And it cost only about € 300- a lot cheaper then rebuilding chimney.

A figure closer to a grand was mentioned!

Bigcheeze

Sanchez83 wrote: »

But from experience,I can tell you a flexible liner improves the performance of 9/10 stoves.

Ok, I take it you work in the trade?

Vote 4 Pedro

So I nearly have my mind made up, was 70% going for the Cleanburn Skagen, or 30% the Arrow ecoburn 9 Plus.
now I have seen the Dru 55 MF,
looks very similar, about the same size output, about the same price and the guy in the shop is telling me "nothing wrong with the Cleanburn or Arrow but the Dru is better quality, better made and should last longer" I looked at everything about it and it does look well made, really good feel to it.

I am not looking at ANY MORE STOVES,

Please can anyone comment on the Dru, they get very good reviews online but has anyone on here got one or have any feedback on them, I'm buying on Monday or Thursday depending on work so please do tell.
Many Thanks.

Bigcheeze

Sanchez83 wrote: »

Inspecting a chimney is only a safety issue,correct.
It can't determine improved performance.
But from experience,I can tell you a flexible liner improves the performance of 9/10 stoves.

I got more detail on this and they said they clean chimney, then do camera inspection, then test the chimney draw using smoke pellets. If it passes these tests they say a flue liner is a waste of money.

chickenlittle

Hi Vote for Pedro,

We have a Dru 44 multifuel fitted with over 3 years. It still looks as good as the day it was installed and the heat is fab. Would absolutely recommend.

Sanchez83

Mashie wrote: »

Anyone?

It's an ok stove for a good price.
New company only on the market less than 12 months so jury is still out.

Sanchez83

Vote 4 Pedro wrote: »

So I nearly have my mind made up, was 70% going for the Cleanburn Skagen, or 30% the Arrow ecoburn 9 Plus.
now I have seen the Dru 55 MF,
looks very similar, about the same size output, about the same price and the guy in the shop is telling me "nothing wrong with the Cleanburn or Arrow but the Dru is better quality, better made and should last longer" I looked at everything about it and it does look well made, really good feel to it.

I am not looking at ANY MORE STOVES,

Please can anyone comment on the Dru, they get very good reviews online but has anyone on here got one or have any feedback on them, I'm buying on Monday or Thursday depending on work so please do tell.
Many Thanks.

Again Dru are a very good stove.
Wouldn't rate them any better than the others you mentioned though.
Retailers like Dru over other brands as they don't supply to too many people in Ireland so they know there is a high likely hood they will get the sale on a Dru if they push it.
If I were you I would pick which ever you prefer and is ok on the pocket.
You couldn't go wrong with any of them.