The "Che phenomenon"

Teutorix

Nodin wrote: »

....I think they needed a hug the day they didn't get into Trinity. Too late now, the scars are there forever.

Trinity is for pretentious wánkers anyway. :cool:

laoch na mona

Teutorix wrote: »

Pennys are operated by primark, at least buy irish you useless yoke!

i saw an irish stall selling them for way more then penneys
working class people the world over will unite and tear down the capitalist system and replace all brown Thomas shops with penneys

yuppies

I was at a friend of mine's house at college before and nearly all his friends were the type of lefties that the op is talking about. It made me :rolleyes: violently to hear them spout on about the usual socialism, palestine, sinn-fein etc.. it reminded me of an episode of "the young ones". These assholes being given the freedom to live a fullfilling life in the western world and they are completely ungrateful.

cookies221

Nodin wrote: »

"negros"?

From wikipedia: The word Negro is used in the English-speaking world to refer to a person of black ancestry or appearance, whether of African descent or not. Martin Luther King used it regularly in his speeches to refer to his own people. Get out a dictionary next time.

How did the campaign in the north end up "dragging this country back on to the Neanderthal age"?

It deterred foreign companies investing in Ireland, creating unemployment blackspots in border regions. Who wants to set up a business when there are bombs going off around you and people are being kidnapped for ransom. It also created a lot of anti-Irish sentiment in mainland Britain, discouraging tourism. The cross border Enterprise train from Belfast to Dublin regularly recieved bomb threats. We just can't have nice infrastructure in this country without the IRA ruining it for everyone with their childish notions of a United Ireland. Do they even realise what this would entail economically? Not to mention that the majority of Catholics in the North now wish to remain in the UK.

Teutorix

OP in 40 years :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koY6kXhQDQo

GodlessInfidel

Siuin wrote: »

This happens quite often, actually- the left wingers in my college have Muslim speakers and their sympathisers come in quite frequently, and even on last week's fresher's week when everyone was signing up for clubs and societies, their stalls were practically on top of eachother and they were very buddy-buddy. Pretty ironic how they claim to be fighting against 'The System' and then take a fondness for one of the most restrictive and oppressive religions out there.

Inviting muslim speakers and sympathisers to speak or being anti-american foreign policy for that matter hardly equates to dabbling in islam

Son Of A Vidic

cookies221 wrote: »

She will remain unemployable for life.

A prophet as well I see.

Siuin

GodlessInfidel wrote: »

Inviting muslim speakers and sympathisers to speak or being anti-american foreign policy for that matter hardly equates to dabbling in islam

True, but the number of headscarves at their socialist party meetings (on Irish girls who are quite obviously converts) is unusually frequent. Also, I did an Arabic class last year and a large number of the Irish students there were leftists whose interest for Middle Eastern (ie Palestinian) issues had spilled over into a fascination with Islam

Nodin

cookies221 wrote: »

From wikipedia: The word Negro is used in the English-speaking world to refer to a person of black ancestry or appearance, whether of African descent or not. Martin Luther King used it regularly in his speeches to refer to his own people. Get out a dictionary next time..

And the next time you have it out, you might read the whole entry......never get into Trinity with that kind of selective assimilation of information.

Wiki wrote:

The usage was accepted as normal, even by people classified as Negroes, until the later Civil Rights movement in the late 1960s.

cookies221 wrote: »

It deterred foreign companies investing in Ireland, creating unemployment blackspots in border regions. (.........)the UK.

O, so its just hyperbole and guff then...that's ok - I just thought you might have had a point buried somewhere.

Tell me, does it occur to you that people might - on occassion - show empathy with others of different cultures who are being oppressed?

The Scientician

I like how OP uses white and middle class as pejoratives. Know your audience!

The Scientician

laoch na mona wrote: »

I have a che t shirt because the man did so much good
we really have to learn to celebrate true revolutionary who want to help people
most would use violence as a last resort (like the 1916 rising and the war of independence )

How was the 1916 Rising the last resort?

The Saint

I'm still curious to know the source of the OP's uncompromising wisdom. Evidently not Trinity anyway. :P

Richard Hillman

Che Guevara is so loike anti-establishment. I bet he loike listened to indie music and if he was alive right now he would go to electric picnic and listen to whatever Jo Whiley says is cool loike.

saywhatyousee

cookies221 wrote: »

1. I don't have time to go through your 900+ past posts. I have better things to be doing.

2. Politics isn't like supporting a football team. There are no "sides" and nobody is "winning". That's what I mean by an immature grasp of world affiars. Every Israeli death is like a score in the back of the net for "your side." When you decide to come up out of your trench, maybe we can engage in peaceful and mature discourse about Arab-Israeli relations.

There you go again what is my "side" you make a awful lot of assumptions you dont know anything about me or my political beliefs.

strobe

cookies221 wrote: »

posting long hate filled diatribes on internet forums, under the delusion that people are listening to them.

cookies221 wrote: »

Oh the irony.

Indeed.

laoch na mona

The Scientician wrote: »

How was the 1916 Rising the last resort?

we had been denied home rule up to the rising irish nationalism was political :cool:

Mindkiller

krudler wrote: »

but its so anti capitalist to wear mass produced tshirts bearing his face,sticking it to the man right there

I'm guessing it's a hipster thing, surely? They love their irony, right?

Dionysus

cookies221 wrote: »

Che was a murderer and terrorist....

:rolleyes:

ejmaztec

Has the OP's mammy sent him to bed with no supper?

Nodin

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Che Guevara is so loike anti-establishment. I bet he loike listened to indie music and if he was alive right now he would go to electric picnic and listen to whatever Jo Whiley says is cool loike.

Genius. I believe the world of satire will see a golden age, with you at the helm.

Dionysus

Fromthetrees wrote: »

I don't think you understand what you're actually trying to say OP.

hehe.

Nodin

ejmaztec wrote: »

Has the OP's mammy sent him to bed with no supper?

The OP's left wing trinity grad mammy? Perhaps.

cookies221

Nodin wrote: »

The OP's left wing trinity grad mammy? Perhaps.

post reported for ad hominem

Nodin

cookies221 wrote: »

post reported for ad hominem

Wonderful. In the mean time you might answer the questions I put to you earlier.

cookies221

Nodin wrote: »

Wonderful. In the mean time you might answer the questions I put to you earlier.

What question?
And why was it neccessary to bring my mother into the debate?

Nodin

cookies221 wrote: »

What question?
And why was it neccessary to bring my mother into the debate?

This one.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74343136&postcount=70


It was a humorous remark to another poster.

Dionysus

Teutorix wrote: »

OP in 40 years :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koY6kXhQDQo

Far from it. That Dennis Ryan guy on YouTube was spot-on, articulate, passionate and hit the nail on the head - all things which mo dhuine there did not.

Kevin Duffy

cookies221 wrote: »

blah blah blah attacking post/er I presume you are under 21?

cookies221 wrote: »

post reported for ad hominem

Hypocritical much?

cookies221

Palestinians are being oppressed in your opinion. The fact is that Palestinians enjoy a higher standard of living in modern Israeli cities than they do in the self-governed Gaza strip. It's in their best interests to live under Israeli rule where women have rights, democracy rules and they can enjoy the fruits of a successful developed nation.

Even if ignorant westerners do want to display their empathy with an internal Middle Eastern conflict, they can do so in better taste. Wearing clichéd childish scarves and tshirts while blocking traffic in the city centre with their march isn't going to win them many supporters.

k.p.h

Since the OP has stated his opinions. I would like to say that IMO it's people with closed minded attitudes like his that have this country ****ed.

Their is always a point when people have their idealistic opinions challenged by the stark realities of living in the modern world, most people drop these opinions and become cynical money hoarders.Thinking about the next buck and caring about nobody but themselves.

Maybe with all the stuff going on, graduates without jobs, mortgages being foreclosed, the youth of the country emigrating, rife unemployment and sub-standard healthcare you would view things a little differently. The atrocities in Palestine or the all the Wars currently being fought under pretense don't sway you at all..? Maybe the fact that the world currencies are hanging by a thread while famine takes lives every day in Somalia.

I tell you one thing for ****ing sure, things are far from perfect.

Maybe some idealistic thinking is the way to go ... :rolleyes:

I am a pragmatist and deep down I am an idealist, believe me these two things can work hand in hand and not like the narrow minded cynics would lead you to believe.