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  • Registered Users Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Get In There


    Has any civil servant on here successfully bought a +€1000 Canyon bike via Peoplepoint's Cycle to Work application form?

    Having a nightmare with Peoplepoint. "Invoice must not exceed €1,000 in value". Option of me paying the excess amount directly to Canyon isn't permitted.

    Canyon won't split the order into two invoices to get around Peoplepoint's criteria.

    Oh man. I really had my heart set on the Canyon and the reality of having to cancel my order is really deflating me. If you're a civil servant and were able to buy a Canyon via Peoplepoint, PLEASE let me know how you did it! :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Hi,
    Friend (male, 42,relatively fit) looking for a bike to commute to work in Dublin, about 25 min, fairly flat cycle across city. Budget about €700 max, doesn't need to be that much if something cheaper is decent.

    At a quick glance I was thinking something like these
    http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=101811

    Either of 1st 2 here
    http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/showsearchresults.asp?sort=description&withstock=1&sale=1&idCategory=113&pageno=1&idSupplier=0

    https://www.cyclestore.ie/specialized_sirrus_disc_sports_hybrid_bike_2017-ID_70419?c=EUR&gclid=CjwKCAiA4vbSBRBNEiwAMorERxeWmqlyFagh3Ae7fUirnJHkXY4Xqie47Jt3FlxvpgSsZdvBu9eG4xoCdFQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

    Personally I have a courier bike, 8 gears, which I find great, no messing around with fromtand back cogs. Got it from Edinburgh cycles years ago. Hard to find hybrid bikes nowadays with only 8 gears.

    Any thoughts or recommendations please?
    Thanks
    Pa


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Make sure you include the need for mudguards, rack, panniers in your budget planning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    dinneenp wrote: »
    Hi,
    Friend (male, 42,relatively fit) looking for a bike to commute to work in Dublin, about 25 min, fairly flat cycle across city. Budget about €700 max, doesn't need to be that much if something cheaper is decent.

    At a quick glance I was thinking something like these
    http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=101811

    Either of 1st 2 here
    http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/showsearchresults.asp?sort=description&withstock=1&sale=1&idCategory=113&pageno=1&idSupplier=0

    https://www.cyclestore.ie/specialized_sirrus_disc_sports_hybrid_bike_2017-ID_70419?c=EUR&gclid=CjwKCAiA4vbSBRBNEiwAMorERxeWmqlyFagh3Ae7fUirnJHkXY4Xqie47Jt3FlxvpgSsZdvBu9eG4xoCdFQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

    Personally I have a courier bike, 8 gears, which I find great, no messing around with fromtand back cogs. Got it from Edinburgh cycles years ago. Hard to find hybrid bikes nowadays with only 8 gears.

    Any thoughts or recommendations please?
    Thanks
    Pa

    You should be able to pick u a decent hybrid with a nexus internal 8 gear hub for around that price - something like this:

    https://www.radon-bikes.de/urban-fitness/urban/urban/urban-70-fe/

    Or this:

    https://www.goodbikegear.com/803/products/marin-fairfax-sc4-belt-2017-hybrid-bike.aspx?origin=pla&kwd=&currency=GBP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI66Df1ZLf2AIVg7ftCh1NLwHoEAQYAiABEgLbe_D_BwE


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    droidus wrote: »

    Thanks, I like the look of the Marin. Next to check if it can be bought on the BTW scheme.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Theyre stocked in a few shops around the country - it should be possible to get it on BTW

    https://www.bikeexchange.ie/s/bikes/marin

    You might want to do a search for nexus hybrids, there's a few other options out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Kubota


    Has any civil servant on here successfully bought a +€1000 Canyon bike via Peoplepoint's Cycle to Work application form?

    Having a nightmare with Peoplepoint. "Invoice must not exceed €1,000 in get around Peoplepoint's criteria.

    I work in the Public Service (Local Authority) and managed eventually to purchase a bike on the BTW from Canyon directly through my employer. Canyon won't under any circumstances give you two part Invoices for the same bike.
    However they will accept multiple payments, so maybe you could pay Canyon the balance above 1k, and provide proof of payment to Peoplepoint so that they can pay the 1k.

    Obviously you would need to check with Peoplepoint to see if this is acceptable to them.
    Best of Luck with it, as they are great bikes at good prices.

    Kubota.


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Kubota


    Has any civil servant on here successfully bought a +€1000 Canyon bike via Peoplepoint's Cycle to Work application form?

    Having a nightmare with Peoplepoint. "Invoice must not exceed €1,000 in get around Peoplepoint's criteria.

    I work in the Public Service (Local Authority) and managed eventually to purchase a bike on the BTW from Canyon directly through my employer. Canyon won't under any circumstances give you two part Invoices for the same bike.
    However they will accept multiple payments, so maybe you could pay Canyon the balance above 1k, and provide proof of payment to Peoplepoint so that they can pay the 1k.

    Obviously you would need to check with Peoplepoint to see if this is acceptable to them.
    Best of Luck with it, as they are great bikes at good prices.

    Kubota.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Johnnyhpipe


    Hi,

    I want to buy a €500 bike for myself on the scheme. Since I have up to €1k to spend, can I buy one for my wife as well?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    the rules as per the Revenue say No.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 49 Averagevegan




  • Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Thats the wrong one, you want the "FOLKVLIG" (not yet in the irish market :mad: )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Does it come as a flat pack? :D


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,722 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Your employer can buy it from wherever they like/determine

    It's all explained in the BTW megathread which is linked in the FAQs


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    Does it come as a flat pack? :D

    Actually yes, you have to assemble yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,367 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    It's to cheap to use up your BTW allowance. You only get it once every 5 years.

    You are better off maximising your allowance.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,722 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ted1 wrote: »
    It's to cheap to use up your BTW allowance. You only get it once every 5 years.

    You are better off maximising your allowance.

    Not everyone wants to spend €1k or more on a bike. If that's what the OP wants to spend then the tax relief is a bonus


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Generally, the BTW scheme relies on an invoice-based purchase, so it might be difficult to get your employer and IKEA on board with this. Check if any of the voucher schemes like https://www.biketowork.ie/faq cover IKEA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Generally, the BTW scheme relies on an invoice-based purchase, so it might be difficult to get your employer and IKEA on board with this. Check if any of the voucher schemes like https://www.biketowork.ie/faq cover IKEA.

    I've seen lots of ikea stuf in companies, so there is surely a simple way to get a vat invoice from them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    I've seen lots of ikea stuf in companies, so there is surely a simple way to get a vat invoice from them.

    I'd imagine a standard IKEA receipt has the vat on it anyway.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Effects wrote: »
    I'd imagine a standard IKEA receipt has the vat on it anyway.

    Doesn't a vat invoice need the customers name on it though?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,758 ✭✭✭cython


    Doesn't a vat invoice need the customers name on it though?

    Is a VAT receipt required when there is no claim back of VAT, as is the case in BTW purchases?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I've seen lots of ikea stuf in companies, so there is surely a simple way to get a vat invoice from them.

    This could be done by the staff member buying and claiming back on expenses. I don't think this is allowed for BTW, as the payment has to be made to the retailer.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,722 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Doesn't a vat invoice need the customers name on it though?

    No


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭h57xiucj2z946q


    Considering the bike to work scheme. Don't know too much about bikes. Would be cycling about 5km each way.

    What are people's opinions on: https://eurocycles.com/scott-silence-30-city-hybrid-bike/


  • Registered Users Posts: 673 ✭✭✭TychoCaine


    Considering the bike to work scheme. Don't know too much about bikes. Would be cycling about 5km each way.

    What are people's opinions on: https://eurocycles.com/scott-silence-30-city-hybrid-bike/

    It's a bit heavy, and the price is a bit high for a Shimano Acera-equipped bike (I'd expect Alivio for that money), but it'll do the job for a 5km spin. The 3x8 gear setup is overkill for a commuter though. Personally I'd buy a Canyon Commuter 3 for similar money. It's 4Kg lighter and has a simpler, higher quality 1x10 gear setup. Canyon, being a German mail-order company can be a bit tricky to get on the bike 2 work scheme, but it can be done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭h57xiucj2z946q


    TychoCaine wrote: »
    It's a bit heavy, and the price is a bit high for a Shimano Acera-equipped bike (I'd expect Alivio for that money), but it'll do the job for a 5km spin. The 3x8 gear setup is overkill for a commuter though. Personally I'd buy a Canyon Commuter 3 for similar money. It's 4Kg lighter and has a simpler, higher quality 1x10 gear setup. Canyon, being a German mail-order company can be a bit tricky to get on the bike 2 work scheme, but it can be done.

    Thanks for your reply. Very informative. I will look into this.

    Anyone else got any opinions or suggestions?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,370 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    TychoCaine wrote: »
    It's a bit heavy, and the price is a bit high for a Shimano Acera-equipped bike (I'd expect Alivio for that money), but it'll do the job for a 5km spin. The 3x8 gear setup is overkill for a commuter though. Personally I'd buy a Canyon Commuter 3 for similar money. It's 4Kg lighter and has a simpler, higher quality 1x10 gear setup. Canyon, being a German mail-order company can be a bit tricky to get on the bike 2 work scheme, but it can be done.

    I always laugh at this. It's not tricky to order from Canyon it's actually very easy sure you can place your order without paying. You're company will have to pay the entire invoice and you'll have to reimburse your company for anything over the €1000 cut off. Canyon do not accept split payments on their invoices.

    Have a look at cube also someone posted something similar a while back and they do nice commuter bikes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,949 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    What are people's opinions on:

    iwillhtfu wrote:
    Have a look at cube also someone posted something similar a while back and they do nice commuter bikes.


    I've been on a cube enduro(not what you're looking for) for a couple of years, very happy with it, worth looking at this brand, but also worth checking out other brands to by visiting your local shops, you ll have a better idea if you jump onto a bike and have a go of it before purchasing. Best of luck with it


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    I got a Meridian Speeder 200 on the scheme around 15 months ago.
    It's fantastic and really fast as well.
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