iPhone 5 - All questions, rumours, discussion goes here.

RobitTV

The wall street journal is reporting that the US's third largest carrier will begin selling the iPhone 5 alongside Verizon Wireless and AT&T in mid-October.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20096189-94/sprint-to-sell-iphone-5-in-october-report-says/
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http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/23/rumor-sprint-to-sell-iphone-5-in-october/

So anyone think this may be true? also does anyone know if Meteor will be selling the iphone 5?

darling1

Damn just got my beaut the other day!doubt there will be much difference between 4&5 anyways

120_Minutes

darling1 wrote: »

Damn just got my beaut the other day!doubt there will be much difference between 4&5 anyways

Differences will be hardware, like the 3GS/4

DRose1

I am fairly certain the iPhone 5 will be lagging behind all of the major Android devices out or coming out in terms of hardware (and its OS imo). The only thing it will have going for it will be the high res screen imo.

Doesn't matter what I think though; they will still sell zillions no matter how little an upgrade it is to the iPhone 4.

Blazer

DRose1 wrote: »

I am fairly certain the iPhone 5 will be lagging behind all of the major Android devices out or coming out in terms of hardware (and its OS imo). The only thing it will have going for it will be the high res screen imo.

Doesn't matter what I think though; they will still sell zillions no matter how little an upgrade it is to the iPhone 4.

iOS is well on a par with Android...despite what the fanbois on both sides may think.
And I had a mate slagging me over going for an iphone when he plumped for the HTC desire instead saying "his phone could do anything the iphone could "...

everything except install unlimited apps which since the desire shipped with only a paltry 128mb means he's constantly chopping and changing apps...and only some apps support installing onto the sd card ...just incase you try and pull that one out too

Another chap with his HC Desire HD constantly complains about his crap battery life..as most users found out ...so explain where the iphone will lag behind the current devices? It's all very well to say it will lag behind future android devices so isn't it equally true that the iphone 5 will surpass present devices?

I'm seriously thinking of holding out for Nokia & windows mobile 8....with the same OS across your pc/xbox and phone it could be a real game changer...hopefully it comes out within the next 6-8 months.

Dublinstiofán

DRose1 wrote: »

Doesn't matter what I think though; they will still sell zillions no matter how little an
upgrade it is to the iPhone 4.

I don't think thats necessarily true anymore, People are being more careful with money
these days and if there are no major improvement and users are satisfied with the iPhone 4
/3GS i doubt you'll see them running out to spend the €600 to €700 anymore unless they
have an upgrade. Of course you'll have the fanboys out on day one but later adopters of
Apple products wont see the need.

I know personally that i wont be buying one if it doesn't have 64GB memory and some
sort of case design to bring the antenna inside again. My friends who all have iPhone 3GS
/iPhone 4's are of the same opinion. I wont be spending €600 to €700 unless it suits me
when i can buy an android phone for half that price including the cost of a 64GB memory
card.

Hopefully Apple start to realize that they're going to have to start giving us what we want
instead of telling us this is what your getting like it or not. Especially if they're going to
keep up this 15 months without a new release bull****.

They will also seriously need to sort out their pricepoint on devices. They are way above
the odds. I'm hopefull that this will be the new lineup (similar to the ipod touch)

8GB iPhone 4 €399 (8GB ipod touch €229)
32GB iPhone 5 €499 (32GB ipod touch €299)
64GB iPhone 5 €599 (64GB ipod touch €399)

or even better

8GB iPhone 4 €299 (8GB ipod touch €229)
32GB iPhone 5 €399 (32GB ipod touch €299)
64GB iPhone 5 €499 (64GB ipod touch €399)

Lets see how wrong i am . . .

Stevo2007

"The Wall Street Journal, citing anonymous sources..."

I gave up after that.

whiterebel

Dublinstiofán wrote: »

Hopefully Apple start to realize that they're going to have to start giving us what we want
instead of telling us this is what your getting like it or not.

You're in for a long wait for that.

Dreamland on the prices as well, I'd say. Why would they drop them? Middle of a recession worldwide and they still couldn't fulfill the demand for months.

godtabh

whiterebel wrote: »

Dreamland on the prices as well, I'd say. Why would they drop them? Middle of a recession worldwide and they still couldn't fulfill the demand for months.

Alot of that is them control supply to increase demand. they know they have a strong product. limit its release keep the price high and the demand will be such that it will still sell out

whiterebel

godtabh wrote: »

Alot of that is them control supply to increase demand. they know they have a strong product. limit its release keep the price high and the demand will be such that it will still sell out

I don't believe they do it. I've was in an Apple warehouse on the release of the original iMac. Even though an iMac was coming off the line in Singapore every 15 seconds, they could not keep up with the demand. PC World, John Lewis etc were ordering in the thousands.....They just seem to have an uncanny knack of hitting on what people want, or believing what Steve tells them they need....:p

Oafley Jones

godtabh wrote: »

Alot of that is them control supply to increase demand. they know they have a strong product. limit its release keep the price high and the demand will be such that it will still sell out

Apple don't do that. Companies employ that tactic to create artificial buzz about a product, something that apple don't need to do. Apple will sell whatever they produce so they're under significant pressure - just look at the billions they're investing atm - to increase and ensure production Otherwise they're just leaving money on the table.

Sad Professor

I don't really believe that Apple create artificial stock shortages either. I went to buy my iPhone 3GS 6 months after it came out here and every single O2 outlet in Dublin city was out of stock. It might make sense to do this in the first few weeks of release to create publicity, but not several months later when the buyer might decide to get an Android phone instead.

DRose1

Sc@recrow wrote: »

iOS is well on a par with Android...despite what the fanbois on both sides may think.
And I had a mate slagging me over going for an iphone when he plumped for the HTC desire instead saying "his phone could do anything the iphone could "...

everything except install unlimited apps which since the desire shipped with only a paltry 128mb means he's constantly chopping and changing apps...and only some apps support installing onto the sd card ...just incase you try and pull that one out too

Another chap with his HC Desire HD constantly complains about his crap battery life..as most users found out ...so explain where the iphone will lag behind the current devices? It's all very well to say it will lag behind future android devices so isn't it equally true that the iphone 5 will surpass present devices?

I'm seriously thinking of holding out for Nokia & windows mobile 8....with the same OS across your pc/xbox and phone it could be a real game changer...hopefully it comes out within the next 6-8 months.

I had an iPhone for 3 years and recently moved onto Android with the Samsung Galaxy S2. I am not a fanboy of either OS and buy whichever I think is best. For me, Android is miles ahead of IOS in many areas.... e.g The widget system on Android makes a huge difference imo. IOS does destroy Android in a few areas though, most notably battery life and the iPod/music player. Overall though, I am very happy to have moved over to Android and doubt I will be going back.

godtabh

I've an iPhone 4 for personal use and a Nexus S for work (also had a hero for personal use). For me Ios is just better. Easier to use. I'm not into custom roms or anything like that so suits me down to the ground

DRose1

If Apple did the following I would instantly get an Iphone 5 but I cant see any of it happening:

1/ Enable Flash support
2/ Have at least a 4 inch screen
3/ Implement a widget system similar to Android

I live in hope

Dodge

Its pretty simple.

If you like the phone and can afford it, buy it

If you don't like the phone and/or can't afford it, don't buy it.

Can't understand how people can be fanboys about a piece of technology

Dublinstiofán

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Apple don't do that. Companies employ that tactic to create artificial buzz about a product, something that apple don't need to do. Apple will sell whatever they produce so they're under significant pressure - just look at the billions they're investing atm - to increase and ensure production Otherwise they're just leaving money on the table.

They may not need to do it but do it anyway. Secrecy is Apples main outlet for creating a buzz around any of their products.
Only let a handfull of staff test and design new products and write it into their contract that if they spill the beans they will
never work for Apple again, nor any other big employer.

Sure they have us talking about a product that currently is nothing but pure speculation that they have said
absolutely nothing about since iOS 5 in June/July!

Stainless_Steel

Dublinstiofán wrote: »

Hopefully Apple start to realize that they're going to have to start giving us what we want
instead of telling us this is what your getting like it or not. . . .

If Henry Ford asked the people what they wanted they would have asked for faster horses.

Apples core design philosophy is designing products that they think do a job well. Can't see this changing.

eggy81

DRose1 wrote: »

If Apple did the following I would instantly get an Iphone 5 but I cant see any of it happening:

1/ Enable Flash support
2/ Have at least a 4 inch screen
3/ Implement a widget system similar to Android

I live in hope

Have a desire hd and love it,great how open android is and the phone itself is great,no complaints with battery life once I figured out how to set it up.
Fancy an i-phone this time though but can someone enlighten me as to why flash isn't supported and if you jailbreak can you get flashplayer then?

whiterebel

eggy81 wrote: »

Have a desire hd and love it,great how open android is and the phone itself is great,no complaints with battery life once I figured out how to set it up.
Fancy an i-phone this time though but can someone enlighten me as to why flash isn't supported and if you jailbreak can you get flashplayer then?

Because Apple hates flash due to its battery and processor drain. Doesn't play well on Macs either. Apple are pushing HTML5, so they will never support flash.
I think there are jailbreak apps that can do flash, Google is your friend.

murpho999

whiterebel wrote: »

Because Apple hates flash due to its battery and processor drain. Doesn't play well on Macs either. Apple are pushing HTML5, so they will never support flash.
I think there are jailbreak apps that can do flash, Google is your friend.

Why does this come up all the time?

I have an iphone now for 2 years now and I cannot think of one moment when not having flash was a problem.
There's an app for You Tube so that solves that one.

Also flash is on it's way out and Adobe know it and will be changing.

I did not buy an iPhone because it did or didn't have flash as the phone offers so much more than that.

whiterebel

murpho999 wrote: »

Why does this come up all the time?

I have an iphone now for 2 years now and I cannot think of one moment when not having flash was a problem.
There's an app for You Tube so that solves that one.

Also flash is on it's way out and Adobe know it and will be changing.

I did not buy an iPhone because it did or didn't have flash as the phone offers so much more than that.

Because the previous poster asked. It doesn't cause me any problems either, I don't miss it.

maximoose

DRose1 wrote: »

If Apple did the following I would instantly get an Iphone 5 but I cant see any of it happening:

1/ Enable Flash support
2/ Have at least a 4 inch screen
3/ Implement a widget system similar to Android

I live in hope

Check out the videos for iOS5, widgets are coming and they look niiiiiiice.

Doylers

Just set aside the money for my new iphone today Cant wait for iphone 5 to come out. I got the first one from the day it came and had a 3gs up until i dropped it :mad: If people am complaining about lack of features on the iphone all I have to say is JAILBREAK!

Sad Professor

Depending on how well iOS 5 runs on it, I may hold on to my trusty 3GS until the *drumroll* iPhone 6 is released. Although I have a bad feeling iOS 5 is going to be slow as hell on it.

sink

I bought my 3GS on release day in Ireland, that was over two years ago. I'm itching to buy a new phone, the iPhone 4 wasn't enough of an upgrade for me. I was almost going to buy a Samsung Galaxy S II but the lack of a few apps that i've come to rely on dissuaded me.

If the next iPhone is out by Christmas with 64Gb and a dual core processor I'm definitely going to buy it.

DubDJ

Since the release of the iPhone 4 (or even beforehand) rumours have been cropping up about the next model. It's been going on for some time now and boards seems to have at least one new iPhone rumour posted every week.

Since it's approaching the likely announcement date in September I thought it would be helpful to post a collection of the most popular rumours. I thought it would be a good idea to keep them all wrapped up in one thread. Apologies if a similar thread already exhists.

So the rumours so far go like this:

- Next iPhone will be either a 4S, 4G or 5
- It will contain the Apple A5 chip that's already in the iPad 2
- It will contain speed improvements, e.g. Dual Core
- It will contain an 8 Megapixel rear camera
- It will contain the same form factor as the iPhone 4
- An alternative rumour says it will have a teardrop design
- It will come in 16GB, 32GB & 64GB
- Apple will release a cheap, introduction iPhone for people who can't afford the premium price tag
- Other rumours say it could be a cheap 3GS or an 8GB iPhone 4
- It will contain NFC (Near Field Communication)
- It will be a 4G LTE iPhone
- It will be available in Black or White
- It will have an edge to edge 4" screen with a tiny bezel
- The announcement will be on September 7th/8th and will be available to pre-order before the release in October.

*items marked red are more than likely what will be available imho.

Please note all the above are RUMOURS and it's possible none of them will appear in the next iPhone model.

If I've left anything out please feel free to post them here.

PlanIT Computing

Hopefully some form of increased battery life would go down a treat.

Simple, yet always over looked!

DubDJ

PlanIT Computing wrote: »

Hopefully some form of increased battery life would go down a treat.

Simple, yet always over looked!

I can't agree with you more this is my one major problem with the iPhone. The battery is ok-ish but I just hate that the most I can get from it is 2 days and it's usually at a maximum I'd usually just get a day.

Unfortunately no rumours about anything similar to increased battery but I did see a patent they filed for a solar power screen. Something like the screen doubles up and acts as a solar panel to charge the phone. If they perfected that I'd be impressed. I'm sure it would certainly increase the battery life.

Dublinstiofán

If its 64GB with a bigger Screen and new form factor i'll buy one or two. Otherwise i'll pick up a 3GS for another year.

DubDJ

Dublinstiofán wrote: »

If its 64GB with a bigger Screen and new form factor i'll buy one or two. Otherwise i'll pick up a 3GS for another year.

I love the iPhone 4 design. I think it's the nicest phone out there. That's one of the things people always pick up on when they see me on the phone or whatever, they always say it looks great. I think it makes the previous models old fashioned.

Creamy Goodness

PlanIT Computing wrote: »

Hopefully some form of increased battery life would go down a treat.

Simple, yet always over looked!

iphone4 has probably got one of the best smartphone battery life. the fact they almost doubled the battery life from the 3G S to the 4. hardly what i'd call overlooking the battery life.

Sad Professor

I'm still getting pretty decent battery life out of my almost 2 year old 3GS. I think the battery life on the iPhone seems worse than it is because people spend so much time playing with it.

Dublinstiofán

DubDJ wrote: »

I love the iPhone 4 design. I think it's the nicest phone out there. That's one of the things people always pick up on when they see me on the phone or whatever, they always say it looks great. I think it makes the previous models old fashioned.

Grow tired of it after 14 months, dont you? Need something fresh! And the reception in my area isn't that great at the best of times. I've lost a lot of calls over the iPhone 4. It needs upgrading.

Wont deny that its not the best looking phone on the market at the moment, but it wont be for long hopefully.

mad muffin

The iPhone 4 has the best battery life of any smart-phone out there.

You can't expect it to last a week if you use it heavily but if you don't use it every minute of every day it will last a week if you turn off 3G.

thebison

Would it be worth getting the iPhone 4 at this stage or waiting for the iPhone 5?

At the moment the iPhone 4 is free to Bill pay on meteor. Do ye reckon the iPhone 5 would be free to Bill when it comes out? or maybe something like €30 ?

Sad Professor

Heh, no. More like €199 and upward depending on monthly payment.

EDIT: I might be wrong though. I didn't realise Meteor were doing 24 month contracts now.

Cork24

whiterebel wrote: »

Because Apple hates flash due to its battery and processor drain. Doesn't play well on Macs either. Apple are pushing HTML5, so they will never support flash.
I think there are jailbreak apps that can do flash, Google is your friend.

Flash is not Open Source & Apple went blue Prints to Flash.. to allow it on its Iphone, Plus if Flash was on what is stopping people Install Apps online with out the use of Itunes or App Store ?

Makes you laugh they want Flash open so they can Rule it on their Device but yet their the Big Closed Source phones out their.

Johnmb

Cork24 wrote: »

Flash is not Open Source & Apple went blue Prints to Flash.. to allow it on its Iphone, Plus if Flash was on what is stopping people Install Apps online with out the use of Itunes or App Store ?

Makes you laugh they want Flash open so they can Rule it on their Device but yet their the Big Closed Source phones out their.

Not sure where you are getting your information from, but you really should double check it. As far as your online Apps theory, they already exist. In fact, Apple only wanted online ones at first, it was demand from developers/customers that caused them to re-evaluate and create the App Store, but they have never tried to stop online Apps.

Rambo

whiterebel wrote: »

Because Apple hates flash due to its battery and processor drain. Doesn't play well on Macs either. Apple are pushing HTML5, so they will never support flash.
I think there are jailbreak apps that can do flash, Google is your friend.

I think it should be up to the user to decide if they want to play
flash on the iphone or not
user knowing the battery life will drain on use

aidan_walsh

Rambo wrote: »

I think it should be up to the user to decide if they want to play
flash on the iphone or not
user knowing the battery life will drain on use

Luckily for people who want that there are phones on the market to allow them to do so.

And most people won't make the leap from "I use Flash a lot" to "Flash is killing my battery." Most people don't know what Flash is. They'll only see a phone they are using that needs to be charged an awful lot.

Rambo

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Luckily for people who want that there are phones on the market to allow them to do so.

And most people won't make the leap from "I use Flash a lot" to "Flash is killing my battery." Most people don't know what Flash is. They'll only see a phone they are using that needs to be charged an awful lot.

just have a setting in safari to run flash or not
cant get any easy then that.

Johnmb

Rambo wrote: »

just have a setting in safari to run flash or not
cant get any easy then that.

There's a bit more to it than that. The fact that you don't realize that kind of proves what Aidan said about most people not knowing what Flash is.

Rambo

Johnmb wrote: »

There's a bit more to it than that. The fact that you don't realize that kind of proves what Aidan said about most people not knowing what Flash is.

Only really matter for the fashion women or man who wants a iphone
will have the settings turn off for for flash
who will never change settings in safari menu or never open settings menu at all in the life of iphone that they own.

thanks STEVE JOBS

and for the more tech heads will turn flash on
SHOULD BE A CHOICE.

Sad Professor

If you need Flash that badly get a phone that supports it. If Flash was as essential as some people claim then Apple would have had no choice but to add support for it by now. They haven't and it seems most iPhone/iPad users are getting by just fine without it. Personally I hate Flash and will be delighted when it's gone for good.

DubDJ

mad muffin wrote: »

The iPhone 4 has the best battery life of any smart-phone out there.

You can't expect it to last a week if you use it heavily but if you don't use it every minute of every day it will last a week if you turn off 3G.

Hmm yeah I suppose but what's the point in having such a great, and expensive, phone if you don't use it alot

Either way I'd say they could increase the battery life. Wouldn't mind having the same battery life that I get from the iPad 2. I've never had that waste on me since I've gotten it. However I don't like the idea of having a huge iPhone :P

Rylan

Is that not the time since last FULL charge? It could have got little charges here and there.

mad muffin

DubDJ wrote: »

Hmm yeah I suppose but what's the point in having such a great, and expensive, phone if you don't use it alot

Either way I'd say they could increase the battery life. Wouldn't mind having the same battery life that I get from the iPad 2. I've never had that waste on me since I've gotten it. However I don't like the idea of having a huge iPhone :P

True, I was on holidays so the phone didn't get as much use but still, it pores the battery can last.
The iPad is big and therefore can have a much larger battery. Unfortunately as far as battery technology stands today longer lasting batteries=larger.

Rylan wrote: »

Is that not the time since last FULL charge? It could have got little charges here and there.

It would say below the standby that the iPhone was plugged in since last charge.

Johnmb

Rambo wrote: »

Only really matter for the fashion women or man who wants a iphone
will have the settings turn off for for flash
who will never change settings in safari menu or never open settings menu at all in the life of iphone that they own.

thanks STEVE JOBS

and for the more tech heads will turn flash on
SHOULD BE A CHOICE.

And again, thinking that it's as simple as that kind of goes to show that you are not a tech head. You are the most dangerous kind of user, the one who thinks he knows how things work, but doesn't actually, so would blame Apple for problems you caused. Tech heads would jailbreak and easily work around the lack of flash. Those who think they need flash, and aren't tech heads, can buy a different phone. Everyone else can use the iPhone they way it was designed to be used, and realize that flash is unimportant (even if they don't realize how beneficial not having it actually is).

Johnmb

Sad Professor wrote: »

If you need Flash that badly get a phone that supports it. If Flash was as essential as some people claim then Apple would have had no choice but to add support for it by now. They haven't and it seems most iPhone/iPad users are getting by just fine without it. Personally I hate Flash and will be delighted when it's gone for good.

Even before I got my iPhone, or first Mac, I avoided Flash. I used Firefox and one of the Flash blocking add ons (I had flash, just in case). There remains only two sites that I need Flash for, Hulu and TennisTV.com. Once they move away from Flash, I won't need the Click to Flash extension for Safari, I'll be able to delete Flash altogether from my computer. As for my iPhone, I don't watch Hulu on that, and TennisTV.com have Apps that I can use instead.

Creamy Goodness

Mr.S wrote: »

iOS 5.0 doensn't have widgets.

It has a new notification system, if thats what you mean?

it does, the weather widget up top is a widget, there's also a stock widget. it's not known if apple will allow developers to create widgets and wether or not they'll be allowed anywhere bar the notification screen.