Get rid of the angelus?

dilbert2

Is it acceptable, that in the year 2011 when the country has moved on in so many other ways, that every day at six before the news we have this piece of religious propaganda shoved down our throats? Bong, bong, bong – everyone in the clip stops what they are doing…..it’s like something out of the comely maiden era of 1950’s Ireland, when Dev and the Church controlled practically every aspect of our lives.

Would you support abolishing it from the airwaves?

W.Shakes-Beer

I thought this thread was to do with removing a genital part.

FunkZ

DING...


DONG!!!


DING...


DONG!!!

later12

They should make it into specific tunes. E.g. the birdie song, the british national anthem, etc. etc.

efb

its Bong, Bong, Bong...

...It promotes drug use Joe, IT SHOULD GO!!!!

TheZohanS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzRP7OKHcqQ

Aodan83

Why are you still watching RTE?
Wouldn't bother me either way to be honest though. It's a minute of my life. If that's the worst way someone wastes a minute of my life then I think I have it pretty good!

Greentopia

Oh look, another religion thread.

And yes, be gone bong.

Aldebaran

They should bring back the old angelus with the randomers stopping in the middle of whatever they're doing and looking around for wherever the feckin' bell is.

The new one is crap.

efb

Can they have it optional i.e., "red button for angelus" on RTÉ Digital?

CardBordWindow

But then the six-one news would have to change it's name!!

Greentopia

Aodan83 wrote: »

Why are you still watching RTE?

Why not? I love Nationwide. Grand programme altogether. Oh god, I've said too much

aaronjumper

I just mute the t.v. until it's over.

Napper Hawkins

CardBordWindow wrote: »

But then the six-one news would have to change it's name!!

So that's why it's called that! Never copped that before..

ArmaniJeanss

Watch 60 seconds of the BBC News/Sky News before flicking over to catch the top of the RTE bulletin.
Great invention, keep it.

Amirani

RTÉ is the national broadcaster of a secular state. It shouldn't be played.

Chuck Stone

I'm kinda torn. I don't believe in god and all that nonsense and think less religious influence on people and the state is a good thing.

The thing is though that the Angelus at 6 has almost passed from being a religious thing to a cultural thing.

tl;dr not sure

Jess16

niallsparky wrote: »

RTÉ is the national broadcaster of a secular state. It shouldn't be played.

RTÉ is the national broadcaster of a predominantly Catholic country. It should be played

Chuck Stone

Greentopia wrote: »

Why not? I love Nationwide. Grand programme altogether. Oh god, I've said too much

Me too*!



*Except when it's about horses, religion or fashion.

Dionysus

We should just drag all these dastardly Papists Catholics over to Kilmainham jail some summer and start executing them....

Atheism: the new Penal Laws British Protestantism in Ireland; no tolerance for any people but themselves and their own delusional certainties about what is, in reality, a fundamentally unknowable existence. How very similar they are indeed in the certainty of their beliefs to the Catholic "believers" whom they patently need to detest.

Yours,

an agnostic.

Temptamperu

I think it should be scrapped, if you want it go to church or take out your beads and wail away.

partyatmygaff

Keep it. It's almost a cultural thing now as well as religious and sixty seconds of a tolling bell has no ill effect on anyone.

dilbert2

Dionysus wrote: »

We should just drag all these dastardly Papists Catholics over to Kilmainham jail some summer and start executing them....

Atheism: the new Penal Laws British Protestantism in Ireland; no tolerance for any people but themselves and their own delusional certainties about what is, in reality, a fundamentally unknowable existence. How very similar they are indeed in the certainty of their beliefs to the Catholic "believers" whom they patently need to detest.

Yours,

an agnostic.

Don't hold any special regard for Protestantism to be brutally honest, as another branch of Christianity, I consider it a load of nonsense and primitive superstitious fearmongering just like Catholicism or any other branch of Christianity.

This is about the angelus on RTE however, nothing to do with Catholicism -vs- Protestantism.

wolfpawnat

Why dear Jesus is this being discussed AGAIN!?!?!?!

mikemac

How is the people who have issues with religion are the ones who can't stop talking about it and starting threads in this forum?

dilbert2 wrote: »

it’s like something out of the comely maiden era of 1950’s Ireland,

speech made in 1943, 50th anniversary of the Gaelic League
And comely is not mentioned once

Maybe read it OP

Temptamperu

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Why dear Jesus is this being discussed AGAIN!?!?!?!

Because you touch yourself at night.

starbelgrade

Whenever I hear the Angelus, I stop what I'm doing, then turn my head & look slightly upwards with a thoughtful look on my face.

Lady Chatterton

The Angelus has been diluted down alot in recent years, it is now really a minute of reflection, we don't have the holy pictures anymore so personally I'm not in the least bit offended by it.

efb

I want to see Aongus' pretty face I minute earlier , cos fapping to bells peeling is just wrong!

senorwipesalot

Surely its time they jazzed it up a bit.You know,throw in a bit of drum n bass and some hot nuns dancing and that.

Dionysus

niallsparky wrote: »

RTÉ is the national broadcaster of a secular state. It shouldn't be played.

I haven't gone to mass in many, many years. I have no intention of going any time soon. I do, however, like peace and a few bells ringing calmly offer that respite from the commercial world. Not for a minute do I believe they embody the very same Roman Catholic church which supported the British state's Act of Union, whose representative read my father's father's name out from the alter during the Irish Civil War and which was the greatest enemy after the British that the Irish language ever had. Not to mention the church which is responsible for child abuse and so, so, so soooooooo much else.

It's an awful entity, but a single minute of calm on radio is refreshing. Nothing could be further from the power politics and anti-Irishness which has epitomised the Roman Catholic Church since 1155 AD. It is, however, noticeable that the principal objectors to the Angelus include the anti-Irish British unionist Robin Bury and his nutcase, hilarious-named "Reform Movement" which wants Ireland to become part of - you guessed it! - the British Commonwealth. Enough said.

Greentopia

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Me too*!



*Except when it's about horses, religion or fashion.

Fashion meh, religion or horses no thank's.

wolfpawnat

Temptamperu wrote: »

Because you touch yourself at night.

well they say you pay for your sins, didn't realise it would be having to see this thread re emerge from the depths of AH to annoy us all again.

seanybiker

Its only on for a few seconds so I couldbt give a fook about it

efb

senorwipesalot wrote: »

Surely its time they jazzed it up a bit.You know,throw in a bit of drum n bass and some hot nuns dancing and that.

Like BBC News did with the time check pips?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzj_OXSdMxM

kildare.17hmr

get rid of it

Wolfe Tone

It lasts a min, if its not your bag use it as a chance for a slash before the news, or an ideal time to pop the kettle on

Oh_Noes

I'm not even a Christian but I love the Angelus. It breaks up my day and maybe I've been brainwashed by it or something but a lot of days I do actually pause for reflection. It's six o'clock and the day is winding down, it gives me comfort.

I don't see what the big deal is about it. I don't know how anyone can be offended by a few bells ringing. If you don't believe in it then fair enough, it only lasts for a minute. Remember that there are people out there who's religion this is actually a part of. To deny them something as insignificant as the Angelus is complete and utter intolerance.

Solair

Well, the way things are going we might have to give RTE to ARD as collateral for those loans..

So we can look forward to this single bong instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldugFT2H65E

Tagesshau mit Anne von Doyle.

Biggins

FunkZ wrote: »

DING...


DONG!!!


DING...


DONG!!!

There is no "Ding" ya dong!

KeithAFC

Well it is only a minute, so its not a big deal really. Leave them alone.

4zn76tysfajdxp

It's pretty much harmless at this stage, innit?

LETHAL LADY

Is there any remixes might liven it up a bit.

ItsAWindUp

As an atheist I should be opposed to it on principle I suppose, but I quite like the church bells when they play out a tune at 6pm (an actually tune, not the repetitive ringing of the angelus) and I'm walking home, with the evening sun casting over everything as it does on a clear day, I find that quite comforting. Especially as I walk the back roads of my town near the church, I just find that quite beautiful in a kind of a working class urban grey sense.

efb

Jane Little Armchair wrote: »

It's pretty much harmless at this stage, innit?

That was the leniency plea for the pedophile priests to, wasn't it...

Chuck Stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTy-kyFZQ-g

Lady von Purple

No need to scrap it. It does no harm, it isn't patently Catholic, the modernised version is borderline funny, and if you don't like it, would it kill you to change the channel for less than 60 seconds?

Cill Dara Abu

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Is there any remixes might liven it up a bit.

Here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygKBIJ6vLI0

efb

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Is there any remixes might liven it up a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygKBIJ6vLI0

Greentopia

Dionysus wrote: »

Atheism: the new Penal Laws British Protestantism in Ireland; no tolerance for any people but themselves and their own delusional certainties about what is, in reality, a fundamentally unknowable existence. How very similar they are indeed in the certainty of their beliefs to the Catholic "believers" whom they patently need to detest.

Yours,

an agnostic.

I'm an agnostic atheist or soft atheist. I also like to believe I'm a tolerant individual and don't proclaim to know with any certainty that there is no god. I fully realise it is a fundamentally unknowable question and I live by the assumption there is none.
Being an atheist doesn't cause me to have any 'delusional certainties' about the lack of existence of god.

I wish people didn't misattribute views to atheists that the majority in my experience don't hold. Hell even Dawkins counts himself as a soft atheist. But that's something that usually gets brushed over in the rush to criticise him as a 'militant atheist' (whatever the hell that means...)

efb

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

Here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygKBIJ6vLI0

Oops Snap! (Rhythm is a dancer)