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graffiti vandalism or art?

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  • 21-08-2011 10:53pm
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    superstoner90
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    so here is my question , is graffiti vandalism or art? whats your thoughts?

    my personal opion is i myself have been part of several graffiti operations in different places (cant say were for legal reasons)
    so i like to see the odd tag and such here and there :P

    altmario-7.jpg
    not my work just a pic of the net :D
    Tagged:


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    later12
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    I'll give you a third option: Maser. F*cking annoying at this stage.


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    CardBordWindow
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    Hard to generalise all graffiti. It depends on the location, content and the context.


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    Bloody Nipples
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    Good graffiti is worth looking at, but if you're just spraying a poorly designed representation of your own name then fúck off. 99% of all graffiti in Ireland is bollocks.


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    The Waltzing Consumer
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    I will also go with f**king annoying option. Sorry OP, but 99% of graffiti in Dublin is an absolute eyesore, stupid tags or skangers drawing on buildings/walls/public spaces. The 1% may be very good, but if I had an "all or none" option, it would be none cause the vast majority is awful.


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    rockmongrel
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    Graffiti can be brilliant, I would consider quite a bit of it art.

    Tagging is ****ing moronic.

    People seem to mix the two up or consider them the same thing, shame really.

    http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/used-to-have-art-20110503-113826.jpg


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    aaronjumper
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    I don't mind well drawn pictures.
    Its the "Bullitz woz ere" or "Sharon loves John 4eva"
    that I have a problem with.


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    AhSureTisGrand
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    It's all art. Most of it's shìt art though


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    The Waltzing Consumer
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    rockmongrel wrote: »
    Graffiti can be brilliant, I would consider quite a bit of it art.

    Tagging is ****ing moronic.

    People seem to mix the two up or consider them the same thing, shame really.

    :confused: eh, isn't tagging a form of graffiti?


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    [Deleted User]
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    When I was in Valencia, I would walk around the streets and get lost to discover some absolutely amazing graffiti. However, most of the time we get "x is gay!" or "y wuz 'ere"


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    Aodan83
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    The odd time you'll see one really good, inspired piece some where. THe rest of the time it's just bollox.


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    Tar.Aldarion
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    later10 wrote: »
    I'll give you a third option: Maser. F*cking annoying at this stage.

    They produce electromagnetic waves?


    hmm well they could build a wall and use their own damn wall :mad: :p


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    Liam Byrne
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    If it's commissioned or requested, then it's art.

    If it's just "done" by the artist on a permanent structure, then it's vandalism, by virtue of it - regardless of artistic merit or otherwise - involving defacing someone else's property.

    If it looks good I don't have an issue with it on temporary hoarding - e.g. the panels that fence off unfinished building sites, etc.

    The "tagging" ****e is just blatant defacement of property, signs, bridges, etc. Buy a f**king sketchpad and stop trying to make yourself feel important and "famous".


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    falan
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI4rNonP87g


    Very good documentary about graffiti directed by banksy. Yes its art.


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    Temptamperu
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    when i lived in amsterdam there was a dude called lazer who had motivational sayings sprayed onto building site hoardings it really cheered me up sometimes.
    Some is art, Some is just ****.


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    superstoner90
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    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    I will also go with f**king annoying option. Sorry OP, but 99% of graffiti in Dublin is an absolute eyesore, stupid tags or skangers drawing on buildings/walls/public spaces. The 1% may be very good, but if I had an "all or none" option, it would be none cause the vast majority is awful.


    hmmm interest i agree on the 99% being eyesore , im living in sligo (reviling my id is very risky) but my friend and his cousin are great at it...:D


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    The Waltzing Consumer
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    falan wrote: »
    Very good documentary about graffiti directed by banksy. Yes its art.

    Banksy sucks. He may have had a few nice thoughts at the start, but for the last couple of years, he is as graffiti-ish as a topshop billboard. He is now just a commercial gimmick and has turned some nice original ideas into family guy style imagery, take random imagery into something shocking.

    So a typical banksy thing:
    1) take a pillar of society = royal family, police, politicians etc.
    2) put something crazy there for a pop culture political reference :rolleyes: = the queen as Fagan in Oliver Twist, the police kissing, the house of commons as a ghetto
    3) profit


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    #18
    The Waltzing Consumer
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    superstoner90 wrote: »
    hmmm interest i agree on the 99% being eyesore , im living in sligo (reviling my id is very risky) but my friend and his cousin are great at it...:D

    Well anything you and your cousin do is bound to be artistic when it comes to the background that is Sligo town :p

    Kidding, good luck with it, but no law breaking mister! :pac:


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    Mr. Presentable
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    On the painter's own wall, possibly art. On mine, vandalism.


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    superstoner90
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    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    Well anything you and your cousin do is bound to be artistic when it comes to the background that is Sligo town :p

    Kidding, good luck with it, but no law breaking mister! :pac:

    law breaker me? never ;):D:p


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    Liam Byrne
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    superstoner90 wrote: »
    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    I will also go with f**king annoying option. Sorry OP, but 99% of graffiti in Dublin is an absolute eyesore, stupid tags or skangers drawing on buildings/walls/public spaces. The 1% may be very good, but if I had an "all or none" option, it would be none cause the vast majority is awful.


    hmmm interest i agree on the 99% being eyesore , im living in sligo (reviling my id is very risky) but my friend and his cousin are great at it...:D

    Your ID would only be "reviled" if it were a so-called "tag" defacing someone else's property.


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    superstoner90
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    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    Well anything you and your cousin do is bound to be artistic when it comes to the background that is Sligo town :p

    Kidding, good luck with it, but no law breaking mister! :pac:


    law breaking??? , me?? :eek: never:D


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    superstoner90
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Your ID would only be "reviled" if it were a so-called "tag" defacing someone else's property.

    hmmm you got a good point :)


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    #24
    3hn2givr7mx1sc
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    Vandalism.

    Art.


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    later12
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    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    They produce electromagnetic waves?
    Maser is a Dublin graffiti artist who imitates genuinely talented graffiti artists and collaborates with *actual* artists to reproduce their words.

    Vogue Wilson shagged him, that should be telling enough...


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    Run_to_da_hills
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    Similar thread in communication & Transport forum a few years ago.. :p


    Graffiti, is it an art or just vandalism?


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    #27
    Obelisk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Obelisk


    Art.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMKRWIP1pjM


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    Aoifey!
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    Some graffiti can be absolutely amazing and make an area look so much better. Well done graffiti should be admired and respected as any other for of art would be.

    However poorly scrawled messages or names on a wall just make the area look like crap.


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    Kylo Ren
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    Some Graffiti = Art

    Some Graffiti = Vandalism

    /Thread


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    Caliden
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    falan wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI4rNonP87g


    Very good documentary about graffiti directed by banksy. Yes its art.

    Great documentary.
    Pretty hilarious listening to the rich folks crawling over each other to get some of his work after he became 'famous' and was great to see that almost anyone can become a modern artist once you have the right connections.

    Recognition through repetition.


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    Executive Steve
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    Creative Vandalism.


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