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Diablo 3: Have Blizzard shot themselves in the foot?
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CodeMonkey wrote: »What difference does this make? Would you really be playing single player on a computer with no internet connection?
On a laptop when I travel.
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I would*Would you really be playing single player on a computer with no internet connection?
*If you consider connection downtime as well as not having a suitable connection, that is
As regards the AH (I forgot to post my thoughts on it in my previous post), I don't particularly see it as a bad thing because...- The loot you see is yours for the taking, so it's not as if someone can ninja-loot everything for the sake of making a profit.
- If the prospect of spending real currency on in-game items doesn't sit well with you, then you can always look towards the auction house that uses in-game gold.
- If buying your way to victory doesn't appeal to you, then you're under no obligation to do so - presumably every item will be available as a drop anyway, so it'd just be a matter of playing the game to get the items, right?
All I know is that I personally don't plan on using either Auction House (for purchasing, at least) - I don't have any problem with other people using it since it's not going to have any affect on me unless I happen to be playing with them (since a few friends of mine are planning on getting the game, I'll be playing the game with them for the most part), but I'd much rather go kill some monsters/bosses for the sake of getting stuff, far more enjoyable that way IMO :P0 -
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Eve manages to do this (albeit in a round about way via the purchase of time cards for real money and then using those for trade) and the game remains balanced. If rich people want to be OP then fine, let them. It's not a full blown MMO so why would you care? As for you then being stuck grinding, again you would have been doing that anyway so what's the problem?It will ruin the game, rich people will be OP without effort and people like me who downright refuse to pay cash for an ingame item will have to grind for hours on end to get good gear. If the drop rates are anything like they were in D2 it will take ages anyway.
Parents having to say no to their kids? Oh noes!Also, anybody thinking of getting this game for their kids??? I wouldnt, DADDY DADDY BUY ME SOJ WAAA WAAA WAAA.
Clearly these are people who neither you nor I would have any interest in playing with. The best thing about Diablo III then will be not having to.With this, you will just have normal everyday happy gamers turn into chinese gold farmers, doing nothing but sprinting through levels to drop bosses for the loot to sell for RL money.
I don't think anyone will call it fun, not even Blizzard. Calling it greed though? They're a company, it's their job to make money which in turn will finance more games for us to play and given the fact that it's Blizzard, I think that's a good thing.The reasoning for adding this is for fun? no, its greed, pure ****ing greed.
The amount of money made via advertising in games is far less than people imagine.To help pay for patches/updates? Advertising could ****ing do that on battlenet lobby alone, this is just pure greed.
They still do make great games and are now adding features which many of their customers will like, just not you.Its sad, i used to love blizzard, i thought of them as a company who actually took pride in making good games and respected their customers.
Another company whose job it is to make money. Thankfully, as many around these parts have pointed out in recent times, they've also been developing more new IP than a lot of other companies, some of which hasn't sold as well as hoped. How much money, for instance, do you think they lost on Mirror's Edge?Now they are cash cow breeders like ****in EA...
So a 15 hour single player campaign and "unlimited" hours via multiplayer isn't enough?Wont be buying D3, just like i didnt buy SC2 after they decided to split the game into 3 campaigns.0 -
Eve manages to do this (albeit in a round about way via the purchase of time cards for real money and then using those for trade) and the game remains balanced. If rich people want to be OP then fine, let them. It's not a full blown MMO so why would you care? As for you then being stuck grinding, again you would have been doing that anyway so what's the problem?
Parents having to say no to their kids? Oh noes!
Clearly these are people who neither you nor I would have any interest in playing with. The best thing about Diablo III then will be not having to.
I don't think anyone will call it fun, not even Blizzard. Calling it greed though? They're a company, it's their job to make money which in turn will finance more games for us to play and given the fact that it's Blizzard, I think that's a good thing.
The amount of money made via advertising in games is far less than people imagine.
They still do make great games and are now adding features which many of their customers will like, just not you.
Another company whose job it is to make money. Thankfully, as many around these parts have pointed out in recent times, they've also been developing more new IP than a lot of other companies, some of which hasn't sold as well as hoped. How much money, for instance, do you think they lost on Mirror's Edge?
So a 15 hour single player campaign and "unlimited" hours via multiplayer isn't enough?
Theres making money and then there is ripping people off. But you bring valid points to my rant and ill accept im being over pessimistic.
But in regards to the SC2, a 15 hour campaign is in no way enough, not when it was going to be 45 hours
So instead of paying for one game i'd have to pay for 3, just because someone had that idea to do that?
What i am getting tired of, is companies like EA and now blizz holding back on content to sell it on later again as "extra content" its disgusting and ruining gaming and it is in no way called for, im sorry.
What it used to be fine to sell games as a whole for the past 1/4 century? but now its ok to make us pay alot more for what would be a complete game in planning, what changed?
And more games coming out? I'm sorry, am i missing something? what NEW games are we getting? Only games i can see them working on is SC3 and SC4, oh sorry, they are SC2, were just paying them 3x the amount because that's what they want, not what they deserve.
Don't mean to attack you in anyway gizmo, im just really annoyed at these changes. And i never played eve, reasoning why, you found
Whats sad is, once all the other companies see how well this works, all the others will follow suite, then trying to enjoy multiple games will be very costly.
remember the phrase playing games people, for it will be soon paying games
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But in regards to the SC2, a 15 hour campaign is in no way enough, not when it was going to be 45 hours
It was never going to be 45 hours...are you insane? It was always going to be 15 hours just like the original. A 15 hour campaign and an amazing multiplayer component is more than enough to justify full price.
It was going to be 15 hours, split between the 3 races, but instead of compressing the stories to 5 hours a piece blizzard decided to fully flesh out each one. You get more content in story and missions in this one campaign then you got in all 3 of the original starcraft, and thats the point.
The only reason you can have to be upset about this with any degree of logic behind it is that you didn't get the chance to play all 3 races in the campaign, ignoring the fact they are all present in multiplayer.
Arguing that they split the story to deliberately "cash in" is not an argument against SC2 its an argument against ALL expansion packs.
So yeah the SC2 expansion packs are a cash in, but then again, SC:brood war was also a cash in as well as warcraft 3:frozen throne , because they both expanded the stories of the original games, the only difference is that they weren't announced in advance.
So if you are going to argue that point at least be consistent and expand it to all expansion packs, because developers are so evil giving you more of the games you obviously enjoy.
As for your other mindless rants against DLC, in diablos case, you dont have to interact with one that would choose to buy gear so why does it bother you.
Calm down, log on multiplayer with a few friends, ignore this whole auction house thing, and just enjoy the game for what it is, it has no effect on your experience.0 -
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Theres making money and then there is ripping people off. But you bring valid points to my rant and ill accept im being over pessimistic.
But in regards to the SC2, a 15 hour campaign is in no way enough, not when it was going to be 45 hours
So instead of paying for one game i'd have to pay for 3, just because someone had that idea to do that?
What i am getting tired of, is companies like EA and now blizz holding back on content to sell it on later again as "extra content" its disgusting and ruining gaming and it is in no way called for, im sorry.
What it used to be fine to sell games as a whole for the past 1/4 century? but now its ok to make us pay alot more for what would be a complete game in planning, what changed?
And more games coming out? I'm sorry, am i missing something? what NEW games are we getting? Only games i can see them working on is SC3 and SC4, oh sorry, they are SC2, were just paying them 3x the amount because that's what they want, not what they deserve.
Don't mean to attack you in anyway gizmo, im just really annoyed at these changes. And i never played eve, reasoning why, you found
Whats sad is, once all the other companies see how well this works, all the others will follow suite, then trying to enjoy multiple games will be very costly.
remember the phrase playing games people, for it will be soon paying games
Pretty sure SC2's expansions will be priced as such.. not full games. Im also pretty sure they weren't complete when SC2 was orginally released. 15 hours is a pretty decent sized campaign these days, not to mention the countless hours of MP you get with the game. Im also pretty sure the orginal game took 4 or 5 years to develop... so yeah... suck it up.
As for the new AH system... i have no problem with it, its not like its going to change how i play the game, i'll still be earning my gear the way i also have... no point getting your knickers in a twist because some guy with too much money spends it on items and basically takes the fun out of the game for themselves.0 -
Other people have dealt with this so I won't revisit it again other than to say this. When I first heard they were splitting the campaign I was admittedly angry but when they deliver a 15hr campaign of the quality they did on top of the multiplayer I can understand the motivation behind it.Theres making money and then there is ripping people off. But you bring valid points to my rant and ill accept im being over pessimistic.
But in regards to the SC2, a 15 hour campaign is in no way enough, not when it was going to be 45 hours
So instead of paying for one game i'd have to pay for 3, just because someone had that idea to do that?
I've said this before but I'll say it once more for the sake of this thread, if you really think the vast majority of companies will go through the development process and not specifically make content for DLC purposes then you're bloody crazy. This content is earmarked for DLC, if it was not going to be DLC then it wouldn't be made.What i am getting tired of, is companies like EA and now blizz holding back on content to sell it on later again as "extra content" its disgusting and ruining gaming and it is in no way called for, im sorry.
If the price of games in stores rose at the same rate that development costs have increased in the last couple of generations then you wouldn't be playing as many. The simple fact is, most companies need alternative streams of revenue in order to continue to function at the level they do. Some companies clearly take the piss of course (the price of map packs for a certain game or equestrian armor for instance) but in general, as long as it remains unobtrusive to those not wanting to partake then I don't see the problem with it at all.What it used to be fine to sell games as a whole for the past 1/4 century? but now its ok to make us pay alot more for what would be a complete game in planning, what changed?
Key words there: "I can see". As for the rest, well again other users have dealt with those points.And more games coming out? I'm sorry, am i missing something? what NEW games are we getting? Only games i can see them working on is SC3 and SC4, oh sorry, they are SC2, were just paying them 3x the amount because that's what they want, not what they deserve.
I don't feel attacked in the slightest. What I'm simply trying to encourage you and others to do is look at the logic behind some of these moves and consider it rather than jumping on the rage train.Don't mean to attack you in anyway gizmo, im just really annoyed at these changes. And i never played eve, reasoning why, you found
As for Eve, **** that, I've never touched it and never will, it scares the **** out of me. I'm just surrounded by a bunch of people who do unfortunately. 0 -
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