Heroes of Newerth is now free

Tar.Aldarion

In a similar vein to LoL you will now have to unlock heroes bu the plus is that the game is free

http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

In a similar vein to LoL you will now have to unlock heroes bu the plus is that the game is free

http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/

Just made a smurf account for the lulz, I am interested to see the heroes they have on rotation, a pool of 15 is very restictive

Tar.Aldarion

tis indeed but as your earn them you get them for good so it should be cool, and it's a good way to learn each hero, when you are restricted to them, and so are the people you are playing.

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

tis indeed but as your earn them you get them for good so it should be cool, and it's a good way to learn each hero, when you are restricted to them, and so are the people you are playing.

True but I have been playing for a while now

So all the people with acounts already now have legacy accounts with all the heroes

Tar.Aldarion

yep that's basically it!

Jazzy

oh ffs. now the game is going to be truly unplayable

Tar.Aldarion

the new lads cant play with the legacy players til they earn it, or something.

aN.Droid

I like this. It means the players who have bought it before get to keep all the same benefits like free heroes and have a larger playerbase.

All the new players wont be able to play with legacy players until they have racked up enough wins or game time i think so there wont be any new griefers or anything.

GO_Bear

Limericks wrote: »

All the new players wont be able to play with legacy players until they have racked up enough wins or game time i think so there wont be any new griefers or anything.

I made a smurf to see the free hero rotation for a game or two, and the amount of smurfing is ridiculous, I assume this will fizzle out, but on their first rotation they put both Fayde and Blood Hunter which I think is funny as both are notorious pub stomp chars, and the only true supports are Plague rider, Matyr and Engie.

I then logged back into my legacy account to enjoy all the characters :P

Peak time 55-60k yday, as opposed to the normal 40, which is a good sign.

seraphimvc

ye i see alot of smurf too XD lucky i always play with mates in normal mode :P

defo should try this out while waiting for dota2. i was lucky to buy it at 10$ and now i play mostly hon :S the balance is a mess but at least it gives you something new and fun.

also you can play with legacy player if they chose to play 'unverified' game i think. i met alot 'basic' acc players.

Tar.Aldarion

dota2 will wipe the floor with hon and lol, already a 1000000 tourney announced by valve, before the game even comes out

http://www.dota2.com/

GO_Bear

seraphimvc wrote: »

ye i see alot of smurf too XD lucky i always play with mates in normal mode :P

defo should try this out while waiting for dota2. i was lucky to buy it at 10$ and now i play mostly hon :S the balance is a mess but at least it gives you something new and fun.

also you can play with legacy player if they chose to play 'unverified' game i think. i met alot 'basic' acc players.

Lucky you got the foot in the door, aye it will be closer to Dota 2 then LoL would be, I am not so sure I agree with the balance, I just think HoN rewards more for good choices while punishes bad choices or judgment calls harder

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

dota2 will wipe the floor with hon and lol, already a 1000000 tourney announced by valve, before the game even comes out

http://www.dota2.com/

Aye I can't wait to see it to be honest, 1mil for a competition is nuts ! Givf me back my Techies !

Tar.Aldarion

i hate the techies, god damn

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

i hate the techies, god damn

Well my favorite in both HoN and Dota was always revenant / CD or tundra / rexxar

What is interesting, is the new S2 original hero's, while most people think they may be underpowered or crap, is that I find most of them actually fun !

Myrm - one of the best supporters there is

Sil - great solo lane/ranged carry

Matyr - Ok maybe not great in competitive games but can really have alot of
fun in pub games with the right team

Parasite - only recently starting doing this, but we put parasite jungle, and Plague rider solo short lane, use parasite and plague to deny two creeps from the first wave, and some every so often ! Completely screw their long lane as well as being great for ganking if you hop in a minotaur.

and Engie is still one of my favourite for laning !

Not sure about the others but it takes time for strats to come into play

TheDoc

Created an account there.

I remember playing back in beta for ages, but cant genuinely remember the game tbh.

Interesting to see it compared to LoL, which I'm playing alot more in recent weeks.

I hear the community is just basicaly a pack of *****, so I might avoid it entirely, but sure F2P cant hurt to try it out

GO_Bear

TheDoc wrote: »

Interesting to see it compared to LoL, which I'm playing alot more in recent weeks.

I hear the community is just basically a pack of *****, so I might avoid it entirely, but sure F2P cant hurt to try it out

I have played both and I can tell you that both community's have their share of *****'s, the major difference being HoN is a lot less forgiving, you can be stunlocked and insta killed as low as level 3 against the wrong heroes and you lose money on death which tends to add alot to the nerd rage.

One thing I can say is the first few games you will play on a free account don't accurately capture a proper game of HoN, think back to your first few LoL games between say level 1-10. The heroes rotation thing also further restricts people the proper HoN experience, but I guess it makes it newbie friendly like in league where you only have to learn a few heroes at a time with the rotations.

Best advise I can give is not to play Chronos I seen him picked in every single game when I made a smurf, he is a hard carry that is tragically weak early game and requires you to spend almost 30-40 minutes farming to get to his peak meanwhile item independent characters like plague rider are great to learn with as they are quite easy to get kills with early game

Tar.Aldarion

havent played much before, but just made an account and played my first game as fayde, fun times, 1 kd, score :P the shop is WAY better than i remember

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

havent played much before, but just made an account and played my first game as fayde, fun times, 1 kd, score :P the shop is WAY better than i remember

Aye shop got a revamp, I like the new one, but of course alot of people don't.

Pffft Fayde is a pub stomp char I would expect a 10/1 kd Dagon and win man !

Tar.Aldarion

it took me ages to even figure out how to buy something! i did get one in the end but it was too late!

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

it took me ages to even figure out how to buy something! i did get one in the end but it was too late!

Did you mid ?

Tar.Aldarion

nope! won my second game with a 2 kd, yes bois! bloodhunter

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

nope! won my second game with a 2 kd, yes bois! bloodhunter

Win with Chronos / Void, when I played him on my smurf I went mid against a puppet master and wiped the floor with him !

Jazzy

its all about the trilane yo

and of course Robocop!!!! (flux)

ShadowHearth

i just did tuturial.

i got lost in menus, stats, walls of text lol.

really damn hard to see difference between your creeps and enemies as health bars are indentical and same color. ( when creeps swarm up)

has such a different feel from LoL... not having cast range bubbles is really bad for me.

i am afraid to go for a game, as it looks way more complicated then LoL.

how do you deny gold btw?

GO_Bear

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i just did tuturial.

i got lost in menus, stats, walls of text lol.

really damn hard to see difference between your creeps and enemies as health bars are indentical and same color. ( when creeps swarm up)

has such a different feel from LoL... not having cast range bubbles is really bad for me.

i am afraid to go for a game, as it looks way more complicated then LoL.

how do you deny gold btw?

Aye it comes off as more rough around the edges and no fancy reticules for skills shots haha,

To deny you have to press A ( default ) for force attack, and click your creep

Its not much more complex then LoL really ( after having played LoL ) Its just less forgiving, give it a go anyways, just please don't judge it by your first game like most people I have talked too have done Just think back to the first few games of LoL you played and ask yourself did they represent the game fully

The characters take a little bit more time to save for a think, the cheapest is 65 silver so you could get that in a day but the character is the hardest of the hard carries Sand wraith , I wept when I seen a person who had 10 games buy and play him.

Beware of the smurfs though, they are running rampant at the moment as its been only 5 or so days since it went F2P

ShadowHearth

GO_Bear wrote: »

Aye it comes off as more rough around the edges and no fancy reticules for skills shots haha,

To deny you have to press A ( default ) for force attack, and click your creep

Its not much more complex then LoL really ( after having played LoL ) Its just less forgiving, give it a go anyways, just please don't judge it by your first game like most people I have talked too have done Just think back to the first few games of LoL you played and ask yourself did they represent the game fully

The characters take a little bit more time to save for a think, the cheapest is 65 silver so you could get that in a day but the character is the hardest of the hard carries Sand wraith , I wept when I seen a person who had 10 games buy and play him.

Beware of the smurfs though, they are running rampant at the moment as its been only 5 or so days since it went F2P

are smurfs, the people who are high level and made new chars just to troll and make newbie life agony?

i liked to play vs bots in lol. if i did stupid thing, it would mean only 4 people pissed off, not 4 nerdraging and 5 abusing me for being a noob lol .

i have to say - it looks really really great. graphics are just amazing, but i still like basic LoL too, as you dont get distracted by visuals.

Tar.Aldarion

lots of smurfs, yep they do that. just make a game and kick people with good stats

Im doing so ****, .6kd or something, lot of learning involved, been a couple of years since dota. so you have to buy each hero? ive played 5 and have 53 silvers. would take forever to earn each!

Tar.Aldarion

lots of smurfs, yep they do that. just make a game and kick people with good stats

Im doing so ****, .6kd or something, lot of learning involved, been a couple of years since dota. so you have to buy each hero? ive played 5 and have 53 silvers. would take forever to earn each!


some heroes are 650 lol

GO_Bear

ShadowHearth wrote: »

are smurfs, the people who are high level and made new chars just to troll and make newbie life agony?

Yep, I have to admit to doing on Sunday as well after I play a particularly bad few games

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i liked to play vs bots in lol. if i did stupid thing, it would mean only 4 people pissed off, not 4 nerdraging and 5 abusing me for being a noob lol .

Nerd rage is inevitable in a game where there has to be one winning and one losing team I think HoN is really really bad for it, and the smurfs make it worse, as if they where not there both teams would not be good enough to rage.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

as you dont get distracted by visuals.

Wait until you see one of the newer heroes called Revenant, his spells make it a complete cluster **** although You get used to it

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

lots of smurfs, yep they do that. just make a game and kick people with good stats

Im doing so ****, .6kd or something, lot of learning involved, been a couple of years since dota. so you have to buy each hero? ive played 5 and have 53 silvers. would take forever to earn each!


some heroes are 650 lol

Aye,

Pudge is 250 tho so save up for him and stomp :P

Tar.Aldarion

Is tidebringer in it? or sand king, mortred?

i want puck/bubbles!

Jazzy

im very tempted to write up a guide to hon

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Is tidebringer in it? or sand king, mortred?

i want puck/bubbles!

Sand king is Magmus, Tidehunter is Kraken, Kunkka is Gladiator and mortred was not ported

GO_Bear

I am on my smurf now for a game or two ( long day at work ) add me on

notknown, if anyone wants a game/practise match

Tar.Aldarion

added, even though i am bad

Jazzy wrote: »

im very tempted to write up a guide to hon

http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/107898/


make a better one man!

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

added, even though i am bad

My smurf account has higher MMR than my main !

ShadowHearth

okay, i am after my first HoN game. 57min game in fact.

i am even more confused then i was after tuturial...

shop interface couldnt be more confusing... i was like WTF?! Q W E R then plans?

i have no idea what sort of character i played and what was his role in game. some mummy thing or pharaon... i just biult him more in to hp and tanky side. then just buying recomended or luxury items? i am telling you that fecking shop confused the **** out of me.

everything is sooooo fast. at one stage it was 5v5. i threw my green ball of ****. charged in with my R, then Q, then W for my zombie wall? all over in 5 seconds, they all dead, we all alive... i was like: WTF happened?!

i can tell you i was prety good at traping my own team mates with zombie wall...


the speed of game is just very fast, i ussually cant even understand wtf are we doing, are we running or chasing lol. at one stage i was chasing someone and he was running away for a wile till he just turned back and went on me. then i started runing away lol.

i now understand what you all mean about quiting after first game. i am confused as ****!

GO_Bear

ShadowHearth wrote: »

okay, i am after my first HoN game. 57min game in fact.

i am even more confused then i was after tuturial...

shop interface couldnt be more confusing... i was like WTF?! Q W E R then plans?

i have no idea what sort of character i played and what was his role in game. some mummy thing or pharaon... i just biult him more in to hp and tanky side. then just buying recomended or luxury items? i am telling you that fecking shop confused the **** out of me.

everything is sooooo fast. at one stage it was 5v5. i threw my green ball of ****. charged in with my R, then Q, then W for my zombie wall? all over in 5 seconds, they all dead, we all alive... i was like: WTF happened?!

i can tell you i was prety good at traping my own team mates with zombie wall...


the speed of game is just very fast, i ussually cant even understand wtf are we doing, are we running or chasing lol. at one stage i was chasing someone and he was running away for a wile till he just turned back and went on me. then i started runing away lol.

i now understand what you all mean about quiting after first game. i am confused as ****!

Haha , Aye Pharoah is a great initator so you tank him up usually

Its very fast, much faster then team fights in LoL.

Its just a case of learning the items and heroes like in LoL, Core is what is reccommended and Luxury is if you get the farm you might pick them up , kind of situational.

ShadowHearth

GO_Bear wrote: »

Haha , Aye Pharoah is a great initator so you tank him up usually

Its very fast, much faster then team fights in LoL.

Its just a case of learning the items and heroes like in LoL, Core is what is reccommended and Luxury is if you get the farm you might pick them up , kind of situational.

so recomendation items are solid then so? In lol recommended items are ussually for suicide spec.

i go to shower and might go for anather game to make people RAGE more!

GO_Bear

ShadowHearth wrote: »

so recomendation items are solid then so? In lol recommended items are ussually for suicide spec.

i go to shower and might go for anather game to make people RAGE more!

Add me if you want a game , notknown, i just set up the Boards TS server as well

No the reccommended items depends on situation / team make ups

When you first open the shop it opens a mini guide, if you can see, at the top of the guidethere is a drop down menu, anyone can make it and you can vote it up or down , so there are tons of mini guides with item / skill builds.

ShadowHearth

GO_Bear wrote: »

Add me if you want a game , notknown, i just set up the Boards TS server as well

No the reccommended items depends on situation / team make ups

When you first open the shop it opens a mini guide, if you can see, at the top of the guidethere is a drop down menu, anyone can make it and you can vote it up or down , so there are tons of mini guides with item / skill builds.

Cheers man. It will be awile until I log in. Fecking oc got array fault again so need to do a small diagnostics, which will take some time.

Ts you mean you got a channel in boards.ie for hon? Or separate server?

I have to warn you, I am totally **** in hon. Everything confuses me!

Funny enough I can call LoL = WoW and HoN = EQ2 so far. If you know what I mean.

GO_Bear

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Cheers man. It will be awile until I log in. Fecking oc got array fault again so need to do a small diagnostics, which will take some time.

Ts you mean you got a channel in boards.ie for hon? Or separate server?

I have to warn you, I am totally **** in hon. Everything confuses me!

Funny enough I can call LoL = WoW and HoN = EQ2 so far. If you know what I mean.

The boards.ie teamspeak, guess we could use the "other" games :P

Its grand, it takes time to learn,

Just look at Tar Aldarion though, he has like 10 wins and one loss, dam smurfing pub stomper !

ShadowHearth

GO_Bear wrote: »

The boards.ie teamspeak, guess we could use the "other" games :P

Its grand, it takes time to learn,

Just look at Tar Aldarion though, he has like 10 wins and one loss, dam smurfing pub stomper !

Wtf pub stomper means? I hear it constantly.

I finish work around 3-4. If nothing happens I will be able to go for a game or two if you are interested.

GO_Bear

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Wtf pub stomper means? I hear it constantly.

I finish work around 3-4. If nothing happens I will be able to go for a game or two if you are interested.

Playing as a team or Clan and destroying Public games.

I don't finish work till about 7 or 8 so maybe after that !

Tar.Aldarion

GO_Bear wrote: »

The boards.ie teamspeak, guess we could use the "other" games :P

Its grand, it takes time to learn,

Just look at Tar Aldarion though, he has like 10 wins and one loss, dam smurfing pub stomper !

haha! now if only i learned the game to back up my stats!
played with somebody last night that had 15 apm and only bought starting items in an hour long game, he used his health potion 40 mins in, so that one didnt go well!

GO_Bear

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

haha! now if only i learned the game to back up my stats!
played with somebody last night that had 15 apm and only bought starting items in an hour long game, he used his health potion 40 mins in, so that one didnt go well!

I hope you carried that shiz.

The last game we had last night was quite good,

Jazzy

i might be on later tonight too. BigBadHarv = me

GO_Bear

Jazzy wrote: »

i might be on later tonight too. BigBadHarv = me

Ah cool, my verified account is Known and my basic is notKnown.

Think you added me of a smurf did you ? you have omgharv or something in the name ?

Jazzy

GO_Bear wrote: »

Ah cool, my verified account is Known and my basic is notKnown.

Think you added me of a smurf did you ? you have omgharv or something in the name ?

?
nope. i just have the one account

edit - should i create a free account to play with you guys or you using verifieds ?

GO_Bear

Jazzy wrote: »

?
nope. i just have the one account

Ok got a random friend inv then

Companion box

I'll try adding you guys, MysticMittens, add me or accept if you feel like showing me the ropes.

Would love to give the game a decent try.