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Sleep, a real waste of time?

  • 25-07-2011 2:35pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭


    Anyone else think that we lose too much time to sleep?

    We will lose a quarter or more of our life to it. If you sleep 6 hours a night and are lucky enough to live until you are 80, then that means you will have slept a whole 20 years of your life. Just think, 20 years :eek:

    We are not around that long, so sleeping away so much is such a waste. I'd settle for a 2 hour quick charge a night but think 6 is a bit too much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    In before "ilovesleep"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Ageing is a disease, once we cure it you won't have to worry about the time you are losing via sleep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    jester77 wrote: »
    Anyone else think that we lose too much time to sleep?

    We will lose a quarter or more of our life to it. If you sleep 6 hours a night and are lucky enough to live until you are 80, then that means you will have slept a whole 20 years of your life. Just think, 20 years :eek:

    We are not around that long, so sleeping away so much is such a waste. I'd settle for a 2 hour quick charge a night but think 6 is a bit too much.

    given that sleep is necessary to prevent a person going insane I would suggest you have been depriving yourself of it for quite some time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    it would be great if you could get by on 2 hours sleep a day without harming your body long term...think of all the extra hobbies etc you could take up :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Ageing is a disease, once we cure it you won't have to worry about the time you are losing via sleep.

    I'd settle for that... once they don't increase the pension age :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭smk89


    Yesterday I was flying in spaceship with Megan Fox. You spent 8 hours looking at cat pictures on the internet.

    I win!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Sleep is necessary, but apparently you can train yourself to get about four hours of sleep a day (apparently we only need four to six a day) spread across a number of short naps over a 24-hour period and be more refreshed than after an 8-hour sleep. Obviously that might be hard to work into one's schedule. I'm also too lazy to change my rhythm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I only sleep 5-6 hours a night, sometimes less and function fine, one morning a week I might lie in for a few hours and charge the batteries but aside from that a few hours a night does me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    jester77 wrote: »
    I'd settle for a 2 hour quick charge a night but think 6 is a bit too much.

    6 is too little? I need at least 9 hours a night to function. Less than that for a few nights in a row and I'm fit to kill someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    But what if there's feck all good on the telly?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Sleep is necessary, but apparently you can train yourself to get about four hours of sleep a day (apparently we only need four to six a day) spread across a number of short naps over a 24-hour period and be more refreshed than after an 8-hour sleep. Obviously that might be hard to work into one's schedule. I'm also too lazy to change my rhythm.

    yep...the power snooze theory :D

    apparently a 20 min snooze during the day is enough to keep you refreshed for 8-10 hours...
    however 20 mins is not enough for deep sleep...and you need deep sleep for your brain :) a lot of brain activity is done during this period , remapping neurons, memories etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    I find it's fascinating that sleep is still a mystery as why it's needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Urquell


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    it would be great if you could get by on 2 hours sleep a day without harming your body long term...think of all the extra hobbies etc you could take up :(

    It sounds wonderful, being able to do away with sleep. All that free time.

    However we need to ask ourselves how the Powers That Be would react to this. I suspect we would find, very quickly, a lot of proposals from the Business Classes that the working week be extended from around 40 hours to 80 hours. I think we would see very little of this new found time. More likely the extra hours would be filled for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    With the formation of the internet, one may argue that nights could be spent better, but if you think 500 years back, there'd be precious little to do at night. We'd be better off sleeping anyway. :P

    Due to sleeps regenerative properties, if we never slept, our life expectancy would probably be much lower, which would most likely offset any gains in awake-time by not sleeping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    I really enjoy sleep and treat it more as a pleasure than a necessity. Theres nothing like getting in a good eight hours after a long day.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would love to train myself to need less.... At the moment, I'm at about 6 hours i think and then a power nap during the day. Today, I had 20 mins before work and still feel pretty good.

    I really enjoy sleep and treat it more as a pleasure than a necessity. Theres nothing like getting in a good eight hours after a long day.

    I'm the same... But it makes no sense to love something we're unconscious for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    yep...the power snooze theory :D

    apparently a 20 min snooze during the day is enough to keep you refreshed for 8-10 hours...
    however 20 mins is not enough for deep sleep...and you need deep sleep for your brain :) a lot of brain activity is done during this period , remapping neurons, memories etc...

    I'd miss the great dreams you get with a good deep sleep too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Sleep is the bodys way of regenerating. Everything slows down when you are asleep, your heartrate and pulse slow and even breathing (snorers and all). Basically sleep is the bodys downtime, without it it would be like running your motorcars engine at full speed all the time. Eventually something will blow, leak or stop altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Being awake is boring after 16 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Being awake is boring after 16 hours.

    You're not doing it right!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭careca11


    jester77 wrote: »
    . I'd settle for a 2 hour quick charge a night .

    trust me , you would not like to have just 2 hours sleep a night (i suffer from sleep dep for years ) most nights I'm lucky to get 2 hours ,
    the rest of the time I just feel like i live in hell
    enjoy you 6 hours a night ..................your body needs it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Oh, boy, sleep! That's where I'm a viking


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    yep...the power snooze theory :D

    apparently a 20 min snooze during the day is enough to keep you refreshed for 8-10 hours...
    however 20 mins is not enough for deep sleep...and you need deep sleep for your brain :) a lot of brain activity is done during this period , remapping neurons, memories etc...

    So it's kinda like a defrag? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Ageing is a disease, once we cure it you won't have to worry about the time you are losing via sleep.

    Not a lot of people appreciate that. We should live to around 300 years with most people reaching 150.

    Studies in the sixties linked old age to brain tumors in sheep that were consumed by women only in the Andes.

    Also our very planet is poisoning us it's only barley sustainable and unstable in the long term and human life on this planet will become extinct.

    We do have ancient legends and stories of people who lived seemingly for three hundreds years, it's ling since not the norm and indeed ageing is seen as the primary causality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 449 ✭✭Emiko


    We'd die if we didn't sleep, so it's a pretty healthy pastime.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Sleep is necessary, but apparently you can train yourself to get about four hours of sleep a day (apparently we only need four to six a day) spread across a number of short naps over a 24-hour period and be more refreshed than after an 8-hour sleep. Obviously that might be hard to work into one's schedule. I'm also too lazy to change my rhythm.

    There are about 784 threads on this technique in the Parenting forum. They call it 'childbirth'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Apparently you can train yourseld within 2 or 3 weeks to only need two hours sleep indefinitely and be just as healthy and alert as 8 hours sleep. You need to do it in 6 20 minute naps every day spread out evenly. You can't miss even one. You have to get the naps in.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Interesting.... My schedule is so all over the place that I could prob manage to try it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Thread has me sleepy (yawn ) ...needs some music



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    I hate going to bed and love getting up in the morning. I never used to be that way but in the past 3 or 4 years, something changed. Perhaps it's realising I'm not immortal and feeling that lie-ins and sleeping more than necessary is a waste of precious time I have here.

    I sleep about 5 and a half hours every night and have a nap sometime during the day. I feel unbelievable after the nap. No more than 20 minutes is what they recommend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Sticky_Fingers


    I suggest that the OP should think about the wastefulness of sleep the next time they are stuck in traffic for an hour trying to get to a place where they have to spend 8 hours a day doing something they hate only to once again get stuck in traffic with all the other people who are on night release from their prison cubicle.

    I love sleep, being tired and lying down knowing that your about to enter a magical kingdom where you can be and do anything you want is a wonderful gift, I was Super Mario last night, I can't wait to see what adventure I conjure up for myself tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭Storminateacup


    I wish I could find the time to sleep. Presently, I'm getting by on cat naps any time I can get them. I look like a zombie. I had three hours sleep last night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    Apparently you can train yourseld within 2 or 3 weeks to only need two hours sleep indefinitely and be just as healthy and alert as 8 hours sleep. You need to do it in 6 20 minute naps every day spread out evenly. You can't miss even one. You have to get the naps in.

    I seen on another site a guy did it. He called it uberman sleep cycle. It was in Seinfeld too. Its name is polyphasic sleep.

    Disadvantages the guy experienced was lack of energy, said he could only exercise for a short while before his muscles were hurting, he was also completely bored with all the extra time :)

    I used to do with 3 hours sleep a night when I worked 12 hour shifts. Work 4am-4pm come home and not go to bed til 12. Repeat. After the 3 days I worked I would be in bits and have to make up a little on the last day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    It's only when we are deprived of sleep or trying to be superman/woman that you realise how beneficial sleep is to our physical and mental well being .I like my sleep and also to cat nap when I can to recharge the batteries, and unless I've ate something before bedtime that doesn't agree with me,I dont have much bother sleeping for 6 or 7 hrs .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭karaokeman


    Its an interesting question.

    Satoshi Tajiri the creator of Pokemon used to stay up 24 hours and then sleep for an extended period back in the late 1990s.

    He said this helped him to create more ideas.

    This sometimes helps me but at times I really feel I need sleep to recoup and recharge.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    karaokeman wrote: »
    Satoshi Tajiri the creator of Pokemon used to stay up 24 hours and then sleep for an extended period back in the late 1990s.

    He said this helped him to create more ideas.

    Sh1t ideas, if Pokemon is anything to go by...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    I love sleep


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    I love sleep
    Be cool to stick a few z z z z zed's under your username to .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    I've worked my way down from seven hours to six. I think I could maybe get down to five and a half but certainly not any lower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Maggie Thatcher would agree with the OP: she got about four hours a night while UK PM. She reportedly stayed up for the whole of the Falklands War, taking only 20-minute naps. I'd be dead in a week ... :eek:

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    i can live on 4-5 hours, if there was something I could take that meant i never had to sleep , I would go for it in 2 seconds, its definitley a waste of time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Ageing is a disease, once we cure it you won't have to worry about the time you are losing via sleep.


    http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-11/harvard-creates-mice-grow-younger-which-could-lead-human-anti-aging-treatments

    Someday maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    What I want to know is why I feel full of energy just before bedtime, and utterly exhausted when I wake up?

    3-4 hours per night does me & I can easily go 2 days without sleep. But on Saturday, I do lay in for an extra 2-3 hours of lucid dreaming. Very hard to stop :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    I love sleep couldn't live without a decent kip! If I could be anywhere for a day it be in my bed snoozing!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    If you didnt have to sleep for your (op's) 6hrs a night you'd have 25% more chance of killing yourself!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭vampire of kilmainham


    But what if there's feck all good on the telly?
    theres allways boards


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    What I want to know is why I feel full of energy just before bedtime, and utterly exhausted when I wake up?

    3-4 hours per night does me & I can easily go 2 days without sleep. But on Saturday, I do lay in for an extra 2-3 hours of lucid dreaming. Very hard to stop :D


    That's quite common. Your diet is probably to blame. Stop eating bread, rice, pasta, legumes and dairy. These foods are causing havoc with your your hormones as well as being a major cause of cancer and neurodegenerative diseases such as parkinson's. Also make sure to get at least 8 hours sleep in absolute pitch black darkness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    That's quite common. Your diet is probably to blame. Stop eating bread, rice, pasta, legumes and dairy. These foods are causing havoc with your your hormones as well as being a major cause of cancer and neurodegenerative diseases such as parkinson's. Also make sure to get at least 8 hours sleep in absolute pitch black darkness.

    Out of that list, I only eat bread regularly, and maybe a little cheese.

    Besides, I wasn't complaining....it's just funny how people generally feel more tired just after they've woken up. Of course, it only lasts a few minutes.

    Oh, and pretty much everything is a major cause of cancer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    So it's kinda like a defrag? :pac:

    More CCleaner...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14279123

    I acutally just read this study yesterday.

    Long story short, if you get less than 6 hours sleep every night for 2 weeks, that's the same as going 2 FULL nights with NO sleep.

    I rarely get 6 hours. It seriously impacts on my life. My memory, my mood, my overall well-being are greatly affected.

    I get about 5 hours at the moment, but this is interupted at least once.


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