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    #3092
    Peppa Cig
    Registered Users Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    Is this the right type of earphones? Ratings are low, sound quality poor...

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hensych-Motorbike-Motorcycle-Speakers-Headphones/dp/B01C7119WM

    I have these fixed in helmet lining for listening to music.

    Panasonic RP-HS46E-K Slim Clip on Earphone - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002GAXWF2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_RE9KKCQQWXA1F7PB465G

    Should do for a test.


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    #3093
    Mjolnir
    Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    Is this the right type of earphones? Ratings are low, sound quality poor...

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hensych-Motorbike-Motorcycle-Speakers-Headphones/dp/B01C7119WM

    That's the kind
    Sound quality out of the radios used is beyond crap anyway regardless of what you pair up with.
    I've used them in work for years and by God there's time I honestly just spend an entire night replying with what.


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    #3094
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Mjolnir wrote: »
    That's the kind
    Sound quality out of the radios used is beyond crap anyway regardless of what you pair up with.
    I've used them in work for years and by God there's time I honestly just spend an entire night replying with what.

    Yep. It sounds like a nightmare


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    #3095
    Mjolnir
    Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    Yep. It sounds like a nightmare

    Honestly around the town section they're grand, you'll struggle a bit but you'll be all right as long as you're not hearing impaired.
    When you get upto speed on a 100km/h section in wind you probably won't hear at all, so helps to have an idea of the routes.


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    #3096
    garlad
    Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭garlad


    Still on my L plates.
    Something that never came up on IBT, but what do you do on dual carriageways (N11, etc).
    We did drive a section of N11 from bray to kilmacanogue, stayed in outside lane.
    But never had to deal with traffic lights and stopping starting.
    Currently I'm driving in outside lane and stopping behind the cars in the lane.
    Can I filter to the front? If so, do I filter through the middle? Do you have to wait for cars to be stopped before filtering to front? When you get to the front should you get back into outside lane and stop?
    What about bus lanes?


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    #3097
    zubair
    Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    garlad wrote: »
    Still on my L plates.
    Something that never came up on IBT, but what do you do on dual carriageways (N11, etc).
    We did drive a section of N11 from bray to kilmacanogue, stayed in outside lane.
    But never had to deal with traffic lights and stopping starting.
    Currently I'm driving in outside lane and stopping behind the cars in the lane.
    Can I filter to the front? If so, do I filter through the middle? Do you have to wait for cars to be stopped before filtering to front? When you get to the front should you get back into outside lane and stop?
    What about bus lanes?

    For me its really about doing what I think is convenient and safe, every road is different. Personally I'll filter to the lights on the N11, down the middle, not sure of another way of doing it bar the bus lane. When the bus lane is there I often use it, N11 is notorious for drivers diving into the bus lane when there's a left turn up ahead and the lights are red so be vigilant. I just make room for another bike when I get to the front, I don't think too much about which lane I get in then, whichever is safest. I would start filtering just as the car in front of me starts to come to a stop, leave enough of a gap between you and them that you can get a shoulder check in without running into the back of them.

    Remember when approaching a red that you didn't see change could be close to changing to green. And a quick assessment of the scenario, risk vs reward; is it safe to filter and will you gain much from the manoeuvre.


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    #3098
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,980 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I hope by outside lane you don't mean overtaking lane

    Better to call them 1, 2, 3... from left to right, and there is definitely no such thing as a fast lane!

    Don't attempt filtering until you are a bit more experienced. Last thing you want to happen is have the traffic move off again either side of you and get panicked (it's no big deal really though, match their speed and find a gap to move safely back into.) If you saw when the light went red then you'll know whether you have enough time to comfortably get to the front before it goes green again. If in doubt stay in your lane. And shoulder check for other bikes before moving over to filter!

    Always command your lane i.e. do not leave a gap to the left or the right of you big enough to allow a car to try to squeeze by you in the same lane.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #3099
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    well I'm off to the off licence.

    I was supposed to be doing the test tmrw, but I've spent the last 3 hours checking everywhere and anywhere I store my documents... cos yep, you guessed it... IBT cert is gone AWOL.

    I don't suppose those of you who have been through the process before have any knowledge as to whether or not its worth chancing my arm and just turning up without it? How many of you were asked for the form on the day?

    I've sent a message to Eric Dalton, I'm supposed to have a pretest with him before the test tmrw just to ask his opinion.


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    #3100
    goblin59
    Registered Users Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭goblin59


    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    well I'm off to the off licence.

    I was supposed to be doing the test tmrw, but I've spent the last 3 hours checking everywhere and anywhere I store my documents... cos yep, you guessed it... IBT cert is gone AWOL.

    I don't suppose those of you who have been through the process before have any knowledge as to whether or not its worth chancing my arm and just turning up without it? How many of you were asked for the form on the day?

    I've sent a message to Eric Dalton, I'm supposed to have a pretest with him before the test tmrw just to ask his opinion.

    you've lost the money either way for the test, so show up explain the situation and hope for the best.
    I'd be more concerned about making sure you bring proof the Motorcycle is suitable for the test. (I nearly couldn't do mine as they wouldn't believe me the bike was 800cc as there was a F650 single as awell as a F650 twin


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    #3101
    Jimmy Bottlehead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,118 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Of course it's worth chancing your arm. You've nothing to lose by trying.

    If you did your IBT with Eric, surely he can sort you out with a cert? If not, get onto your instructor and see what can be done.

    Unsure if you're joking, but if not I wouldn't be hitting the off licence the day before a test. Last thing ya need is a groggy head and a temper when trying to talk the examiner out of needing the IBT cert!


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    #3102
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    goblin59 wrote: »
    you've lost the money either way for the test, so show up explain the situation and hope for the best.
    I'd be more concerned about making sure you bring proof the Motorcycle is suitable for the test. (I nearly couldn't do mine as they wouldn't believe me the bike was 800cc as there was a F650 single as awell as a F650 twin

    Oh I know I’ve lost the test money, and also the bike hire, as my own is a deauville, so not an A bike. I’m hiring a bike from Eric for the test, which is why I was asking his opinion too. No pint in dragging the man out of bed unnecessarily!


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    #3103
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

    Unsure if you're joking, but if not I wouldn't be hitting the off licence the day before a test. Last thing ya need is a groggy head and a temper when trying to talk the examiner out of needing the IBT cert!


    I was more going with the drown the sorrows option, as in not doing the test so feck it!!

    I suppose it all depends on whether or not Eric says take the chance.


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    #3104
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Have a look on here.

    https://ccwdriver.rsa.ie/driver/driverlogin.aspx

    You can print stuff off with it and it'll have the dates and your number. Maybe the tester won't take it but it's another option to try.


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    #3105
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    well I'm off to the off licence.

    I was supposed to be doing the test tmrw, but I've spent the last 3 hours checking everywhere and anywhere I store my documents... cos yep, you guessed it... IBT cert is gone AWOL.

    I don't suppose those of you who have been through the process before have any knowledge as to whether or not its worth chancing my arm and just turning up without it? How many of you were asked for the form on the day?

    I've sent a message to Eric Dalton, I'm supposed to have a pretest with him before the test tmrw just to ask his opinion.

    You don't need the cert. I brought mine, instructor told me I needn't have bothered. I wasn't asked for it, you have to sign a declaration to say you're legal and have the vlc, that's it. In fact I didn't even bring it to the test centre, I put it back in my car in my instructor's compound.


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    #3106
    IrishGrimReaper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭IrishGrimReaper


    Wasn't asked to show my IBT cert either.

    Just the learner permit and that was it.


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    #3107
    zubair
    Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    I don't remember being asked for my cert. Bring what you have. Best of luck with it.


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    #3108
    Peppa Cig
    Registered Users Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    zubair wrote: »
    I don't remember being asked for my cert. Bring what you have. Best of luck with it.

    So if my 2 year IBT cert expires before I actually get a test date - there is no need to renew IBT?


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    #3109
    minttea
    Subscribers Posts: 78 ✭✭minttea


    Technically that's different, your insurance policy may no longer be valid.

    The big issue at the moment is that IBTs are all currently on hold during level 5, in effect putting a number of bikers off the road!
    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    So if my 2 year IBT cert expires before I actually get a test date - there is no need to renew IBT?


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    #3110
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,980 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The idea that an IBT expires is ridiculous. Once you pass your test you don't need to repeat it...

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #3111
    minttea
    Subscribers Posts: 78 ✭✭minttea


    I actually think it's a good idea, if someone can't pass their test they shouldn't be allowed to continue to ride on the road indefinitely without further training.

    Obviously current circumstances are very different and they should either reopen IBT training or extend existing certs!
    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    The idea that an IBT expires is ridiculous. Once you pass your test you don't need to repeat it...


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    #3112
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    minttea wrote: »
    I actually think it's a good idea, if someone can't pass their test they shouldn't be allowed to continue to ride on the road indefinitely without further training.

    Obviously current circumstances are very different and they should either reopen IBT training or extend existing certs!

    He didn't mention not passing the test... he was talking about IBT's having a limited lifetime... The effects of which are currently evident and exagerated.


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    #3113
    nigeldaniel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    The idea of the IBT is a good one and has its foundations in making sure that new bikers know what they are doing. The very basis of biking. It works well enough in Europe, the issue wherein Ireland is the RSA been scarcely capable of function and the lack of full-time bike schools to provide proper instruction and support until a learner passes his or her test. Doing IBT squashed into a weekend and in a rushed manner might work for some but not everyone. There is also the naff and I mean naff delays in doing tests. I have no doubt if there was one full-time bike school operating in every country things would be miles better. As it stands the RSA has a list of IBT schools but at any time I would say only half of them or less are still in operation.
    That's my take on the IBT.

    Dan.



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    #3114
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    So if my 2 year IBT cert expires before I actually get a test date - there is no need to renew IBT?

    My instructor was of the opinion that the RSA know who has and who hasn't got a valid IBT when it comes to the test. Your IBT instructor has to send a duplicate to them when you complete it


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    #3115
    minttea
    Subscribers Posts: 78 ✭✭minttea


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    He didn't mention not passing the test... he was talking about IBT's having a limited lifetime... The effects of which are currently evident and exagerated.

    But they are directly related.. pass your test, no longer require the IBT cert. In my own opinion if you haven't passed your test within 2 years of doing the IBT, then doing a refresher course with a qualified instructor can only be a good thing!

    But as I already said, current circumstances are very different and extensions should be given!


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    #3116
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Passed!! Anyone want a lucky high vis??

    By the way, those of you recommending Eric Dalton, could not agree more!!

    I had two hours of pretest with him this morning and he was so helpful and enthusiastic about helping me out with the couple of errors I had been making.


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    #3117
    minttea
    Subscribers Posts: 78 ✭✭minttea


    Congrats
    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    Passed!! Anyone want a lucky high vis??

    By the way, those of you recommending Eric Dalton, could not agree more!!

    I had two hours of pretest with him this morning and he was so helpful and enthusiastic about helping me out with the couple of errors I had been making.


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    #3118
    Jimmy Bottlehead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,118 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    Passed!! Anyone want a lucky high vis??

    By the way, those of you recommending Eric Dalton, could not agree more!!

    I had two hours of pretest with him this morning and he was so helpful and enthusiastic about helping me out with the couple of errors I had been making.

    Well done!! Don't be afraid to post up your experience while it's fresh, it might help others who have the test coming up.

    And yeah, Eric is the man. A proper no-BS kinda guy and top class instructor.


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    #3119
    zubair
    Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    Passed!! Anyone want a lucky high vis??

    By the way, those of you recommending Eric Dalton, could not agree more!!

    I had two hours of pretest with him this morning and he was so helpful and enthusiastic about helping me out with the couple of errors I had been making.

    Brilliant, now you should definitely go to the offy!


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    #3120
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    zubair wrote: »
    Brilliant, now you should definitely go to the offy!

    The wifey has already gotten supplies in!!


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    #3121
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »
    Well done!! Don't be afraid to post up your experience while it's fresh, it might help others who have the test coming up.

    And yeah, Eric is the man. A proper no-BS kinda guy and top class instructor.

    The mistakes I was making were shoulder checks. Mostly on take off, I was depending on my mirrors too much. His mantra was the making of me today


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