Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

seligehgit

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

When asked what did Mayo think of the decision he said 'I dont know, sure Mayo always have a problem with venues' something along those lines. He's a full time employee, he was way out of line.

If he did state that verbatim he spoke in a totally unprofessional manner.

Kalyke

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

When asked what did Mayo think of the decision he said 'I dont know, sure Mayo always have a problem with venues' something along those lines. He's a full time employee, he was way out of line.

Whatever about the fans, the players would play Sligo in the final on the summit of Benbulben!!

yop

Gee Male wrote: »

This makes no sense logically. Just because Hyde is now deemed OK (or at least manageable with reduced capacity) from a health and safety point of view, does not mean that a completely separate stadium also should be.

What did Prenty say on the radio?

Prenty said that Mayo fans are always complaining about the venus no matter where the games are played.

Well it seems the reason why Hyde and Markevicz weren't considered was down to lack of capacity to hold a major final and for safety reasons. So they are wondering now why Hyde with no work done is now chosen ahead of allowing Sligo having the game at home.

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

What on earth is that supposed to mean? If anything this decision will cost the Connacht Council money

Rossies will get a bigger pot now since they are hosting it, with the development work due then they will have a few more pound to put into the pot.

Coillte_Bhoy

yop wrote: »

Rossies will get a bigger pot now since they are hosting it, with the development work due then they will have a few more pound to put into the pot.

You seriously suggesting thats the reason?

Gee Male

yop wrote: »

Prenty said that Mayo fans are always complaining about the venus no matter where the games are played.

Well it seems the reason why Hyde and Markevicz weren't considered was down to lack of capacity to hold a major final and for safety reasons. So they are wondering now why Hyde with no work done is now chosen ahead of allowing Sligo having the game at home.



Rossies will get a bigger pot now since they are hosting it, with the development work due then they will have a few more pound to put into the pot.

So a tongue in cheek jibe over nothing in particular, based on the complaining of some about Limerick last year, Salthill this year and the prospect of Salthill again in the final?

If people are genuinely offended by that then they're more than a bit precious.

yop

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You seriously suggesting thats the reason?

Well what is the other reason a ground deemed unsuitable last Monday by Prenty is now deemed suitable with no safety works done and no extra capacity installed.

Why do you think they are using Hyde park?

seligehgit

yop wrote: »

Prenty said that Mayo fans are always complaining about the venus no matter where the games are played.

Well it seems the reason why Hyde and Markevicz weren't considered was down to lack of capacity to hold a major final and for safety reasons. So they are wondering now why Hyde with no work done is now chosen ahead of allowing Sligo having the game at home.



Rossies will get a bigger pot now since they are hosting it, with the development work due then they will have a few more pound to put into the pot.

That's pretty laughable,the fact that we'd legitimate reasons to not wish to have to travel to Limerick last year seems to be been used as a stick to beat us with.I can't recall any other occasion when the Green and Red support didn't head off to any venue without complaint.Smacks of similar thoughtless remarks made last year post the semi final replay by the now ex president of the GAA Liam O Neill.

nice_guy80

this thread is hilarious.
if the game was in Belmullet there'd still be complaints

yop

seligehgit wrote: »

That's pretty laughable,the fact that we'd legitimate reasons to not wish to have to travel to Limerick last year seems to be been used as a stick to beat us with.I can't recall any other occasion when the Green and Red support didn't head off to any venue without complaint.Smacks of similar thoughtless remarks made last year post the semi final replay by the now ex president of the GAA Liam O Neill.

In fairness we are one of the best supported counties, go to any league away match and you will find a few thousand Mayo fans there easily. Not sure what is wrong with Prenty, but he was out of order regardless.
Ya the GAA in general don't seem to give 2 fks towards fans of most counties, just take it fro granted that we wil turn up anyway and pay the prices, which we do.

Anyway, it won't be changed now unless Sligo kick up a massive stink, wasn't it 2 years ago that they managed to double sell some seats!
We had to collect our tickets from the caravan out the front.

Suppose we will be ambushed by the A&E brigade though Ming will be too busy in Brussels now!

Coillte_Bhoy

yop wrote: »

Well what is the other reason a ground deemed unsuitable last Monday by Prenty is now deemed suitable with no safety works done and no extra capacity installed.

Why do you think they are using Hyde park?

tbh i have no idea but i doubt that Mayo stood by and let a deal be hatched that would provide a windfall for Roscommon.

By the way what did Prenty say last Monday?

yop

nice_guy80 wrote: »

this thread is hilarious.
if the game was in Belmullet there'd still be complaints

Ah no last Saturday was hilarious, listening to your manager and your supporters already buying the tickets for the Connacht final and now the "Cups" excuse is hilarious.
But your welcome to stay on here and enjoy some part of a Connacht final.

yop

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

tbh i have no idea but i doubt that Mayo stood by and let a deal be hatched that would provide a windfall for Roscommon.

By the way what did Prenty say last Monday?

Mayo GAA could have no say in the decision as it was Sligo's choice.
Note that Hyde couldn't be used in this piece.
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22197:connacht-final-venue-is-sligos-call&catid=14&Itemid=100008



Link to the decision from Prenty this morning
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22230:prenty-explains-final-venue-decision&catid=14&Itemid=100008

Gee Male

yop wrote: »

Well what is the other reason a ground deemed unsuitable last Monday by Prenty is now deemed suitable with no safety works done and no extra capacity installed.

Why do you think they are using Hyde park?

This is becoming a bit weird now. Have you an issue with John Prenty specifically?

For the record, Hyde Park was not deemed unfit by Prenty, ever. It was deemed unfit by the famous Slattery Report, of which Prenty played no part. I suspect you know this, I'm just not sure what the agenda is in bringing Prenty into it. Even portraying the decision to play the game in the Hyde was not his decision alone, it was a decision of the Council of which he is a part.

Personally, I think they are using Hyde Park because Sligo insisted on not playing the game in Castlebar. Connacht Council must have deemed Salthill unsuitable due to the fiasco of a couple of weeks ago, added to the fact that the Connacht final weekend will be a busier than normal weekend in Galway too, thereby exacerbating the problem.

Why do you think Prenty wants it in Roscommon, when the result is less money for the Connacht Council? Do you seriously think a game with 20,000 people at it is going to do much financially for the re-work on the Hyde?

Gee Male

yop wrote: »

Mayo GAA could have no say in the decision as it was Sligo's choice.
Note that Hyde couldn't be used in this piece.
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22197:connacht-final-venue-is-sligos-call&catid=14&Itemid=100008



Link to the decision from Prenty this morning
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22230:prenty-explains-final-venue-decision&catid=14&Itemid=100008

"Link to decision from Prenty" and the link brings us to an article which says, as it's first line, "THE decision to fix next month’s Connacht SFC Final for Dr Hyde Park, Roscommon was agreed by representatives of all counties in the province, according to Connacht GAA Council Secretary John Prenty."

What decision did Prenty take then? Did he decide on hob nobs versus custard creams for the meeting?

yop

Gee Male wrote: »

This is becoming a bit weird now. Have you an issue with John Prenty specifically?

For the record, Hyde Park was not deemed unfit by Prenty, ever. It was deemed unfit by the famous Slattery Report, of which Prenty played no part. I suspect you know this, I'm just not sure what the agenda is in bringing Prenty into it. Even portraying the decision to play the game in the Hyde was not his decision alone, it was a decision of the Council of which he is a part.

Personally, I think they are using Hyde Park because Sligo insisted on not playing the game in Castlebar. Connacht Council must have deemed Salthill unsuitable due to the fiasco of a couple of weeks ago, added to the fact that the Connacht final weekend will be a busier than normal weekend in Galway too, thereby exacerbating the problem.

Why do you think Prenty wants it in Roscommon, when the result is less money for the Connacht Council? Do you seriously think a game with 20,000 people at it is going to do much financially for the re-work on the Hyde?

Where did I say it was Prentys decision.... he was the man fronting the Connacht GAA Council on local radio this morning and he was the man interviewed by local media on Monday and said that Hyde couldn't be considered. He is on the Connacht Council.
Yes I know about the Slattery Report and yes i know who made the decision.
I have no issue with Prenty.

Coillte_Bhoy

yop wrote: »

Mayo GAA could have no say in the decision as it was Sligo's choice.
Note that Hyde couldn't be used in this piece.
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22197:connacht-final-venue-is-sligos-call&catid=14&Itemid=100008



Link to the decision from Prenty this morning
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22230:prenty-explains-final-venue-decision&catid=14&Itemid=100008

Im not nitpicking but where did he actually say Hyde was unsuitable?

yop

Gee Male wrote: »

"Link to decision from Prenty" and the link brings us to an article which says, as it's first line, "THE decision to fix next month’s Connacht SFC Final for Dr Hyde Park, Roscommon was agreed by representatives of all counties in the province, according to Connacht GAA Council Secretary John Prenty."

What decision did Prenty take then? Did he decide on hob nobs versus custard creams for the meeting?

Seriously, do you need me to draw stick men for this one.
Did I say it was him that made the decision. Prenty was the spokesman.

yop

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Im not nitpicking but where did he actually say Hyde was unsuitable?

Think it was the Connaught Telegraph or Independent who had the quote, I will see if I can root it out.

yop

Sligo to appeal.
Could be in Salthill yet.

http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2015/06/25/4038545-sligo-to-appeal-hyde-park-ruling/

Gee Male

yop wrote: »

Seriously, do you need me to draw stick men for this one.
Did I say it was him that made the decision. Prenty was the spokesman.

Post 8954, you say link to Prenty's decision. You can draw stick men if you like, but it'd only be a bit of a circular reference for yourself.

Also, post 8948 you're talking about a ground deemed unsuitable by Prenty. Which seems to hint at another decision that you've yet to provide any evidence of. All a bit weird.

If this is all because of a throwaway comment on Mayo fans complaining about venues, then precious doesn't begin to describe it.

Coillte_Bhoy

yop wrote: »

Think it was the Connaught Telegraph or Independent who had the quote, I will see if I can root it out.

I think it was just assumption on their part, havent seen a direct quote

Coillte_Bhoy

Gee Male wrote: »

If this is all because of a throwaway comment on Mayo fans complaining about venues, then precious doesn't begin to describe it.

He's a well paid full time official of the Connacht Council. A man in his position should not be making disparaging remarks like that and he didnt specify Mayo 'fans', he said Mayo so he could just as easily be having a cut at the County Board. It's totally unprofessional.

yop

Gee Male wrote: »

Post 8954, you say link to Prenty's decision. You can draw stick men if you like, but it'd only be a bit of a circular reference for yourself.

Also, post 8948 you're talking about a ground deemed unsuitable by Prenty. Which seems to hint at another decision that you've yet to provide any evidence of. All a bit weird.

If this is all because of a throwaway comment on Mayo fans complaining about venues, then precious doesn't begin to describe it.

Nope, read it again, its probably missing a "," so just for you

"Link to the decision, from Prenty this morning"
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?opt...&Itemid=100008


Yes he is quoted, as I said I am not sure what paper it was, I don't take photocopies of all articles I read, but I will the next time in case you need convincing.

Precious we are indeed, what fair county are you from them? Or can we guess....

Kalyke

yop wrote: »

Nope, read it again, its probably missing a "," so just for you

"Link to the decision, from Prenty this morning"
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?opt...&Itemid=100008


Yes he is quoted, as I said I am not sure what paper it was, I don't take photocopies of all articles I read, but I will the next time in case you need convincing.

Precious we are indeed, what fair county are you from them? Or can we guess....

Bad link

seligehgit

yop wrote: »

Sligo to appeal.
Could be in Salthill yet.

http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2015/06/25/4038545-sligo-to-appeal-hyde-park-ruling/

Hope they win it.

yop

Kalyke wrote: »

Bad link

Sorry, not sure what happened the link.
Not sure if I am allowed to paste in the full piece, mods remove if I am not.

Now even though we have season tickets we aren't guaranteed a seat.

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22230:prenty-explains-final-venue-decision&catid=14&Itemid=100008

Connacht Council delegates agreed on Hyde Park


Mike Finnerty

THE decision to fix next month’s Connacht SFC Final for Dr Hyde Park, Roscommon was agreed by representatives of all counties in the province, according to Connacht GAA Council Secretary John Prenty.
The decision to play the game between Mayo and Sligo in Roscommon on Sunday, July 19 was announced yesterday evening (Tuesday) following a meeting of the Connacht GAA Council Competitions Control Committee in Bekan.
Speaking to Mid West Radio this morning (Wednesday), John Prenty confirmed that Connacht Council CCC delegates from Mayo (Paddy McNicholas), Sligo (Richard Brennan), Leitrim (Gerry McGowan), Roscommon (John Corcoran) and Galway (John Joe Holleran) had ‘agreed’ on the decision to play the match in Hyde Park.
“We don’t impose anything on anybody,” said Prenty, who added that he doesn’t expect more than 22,000 people to attend the novel provincial decider.
The Ballyhaunis native also outlined the main factors behind the decision to select the Roscommon venue to host its first Connacht Senior Football Final since 2012:
“We had a notional capacity for a Connacht Final of 25,000 but that really is only when Galway or Mayo or Roscommon playing each other in a Connacht Final. [For] Connacht Finals involving Sligo or Leitrim, our attendance is usually way down on that.
“We examined our Event Management Plan and we feel that we can take our attendance [in Hyde Park] to around 22,000 for the next game.
“We examined the attendances of Mayo and Sligo in this year’s championship,” he continued.
“Mayo had just over 11,000 people who attended Pearse Stadium [for the semi-final]. . Sligo had about 3,000 people that attended [their semi-final] in Markievicz Park last week. .
“Normally a minor match [final] will take around 4,000 people altogether so, we’re satisfied, on that basis, that the capacity of Hyde Park won’t be taxed on this occasion.
“The distance from the competing counties to Pearse Stadium would be a major difficulty for a lot of people,” he added. “Plus, the fact that 90% of them would have to go through Tuam to get to Galway, and be travelling in the same direction.
“The Galway Arts Festival is also on in Galway that weekend and the last day of the skywhale [an outdoor artwork that measures 100 feet long and 70 feet tall] is on that day.
“We spoke to some of the people organising it and they’re expecting a huge crowd in Galway on the Sunday because of that. So all those issues were taken into account.”
In the wake of the 2012 Connacht Final between Mayo and Sligo, Dr Hyde Park, Roscommon had its capacity reduced by a GAA health and safety audit — the Slattery Report — to 18,750, ruling it out of consideration for provincial deciders in each of the last two seasons.
However, John Prenty explained this morning that a Mayo v Sligo pairing in the final can be accommodated, providing the Connacht GAA Council ‘update’ their Event Management Plan and strict measures are put in place with regards to fans entering and exiting the stadium.
“Since that Slattery Report was issued in 2012, Roscommon have spent over €110,000 on safety issues alone so we have to give Roscommon County Board some credit for that,” he said.
“The Slattery Report says that fixtures with an expected capacity of more than 25,000 shouldn’t be held in Hyde Park.
“We can accommodate 23,470 people safely, according to the Slattery Report, providing we put a proper Event Management Plan in place and ensure that the people in the stand and sideline side of the ground enter via the Golf Links Road.
“All patrons with a ticket for the stand or the sideline will have to enter from the rear of the stand.”
Prenty also confirmed that tickets for the match will be going on sale after July 4 (when the identity of the Connacht Minor Finalists will be known) and admission prices will be decided at a provincial council meeting next Tuesday.
He also stated that Cairde Maigheo members and Mayo GAA Season Ticket holders would be “guaranteed a ticket to the game, but not guaranteed a ticket to the stand.”

Panrich

All it will take now is the young Rossies to make the minor final and we're set for chaos.

ColeTrain

yop wrote: »

Sorry, not sure what happened the link.
Not sure if I am allowed to paste in the full piece, mods remove if I am not.

Now even though we have season tickets we aren't guaranteed a seat.

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22230:prenty-explains-final-venue-decision&catid=14&Itemid=100008

There's about 3,000 Mayo season ticket holders I think. What can the stand hold?

First come first serve basis more than likely.

seligehgit

Well for last year's Connaught semi final against Roscommon they'd a whole middle section of the stand cordoned off for the so called VIPs whilst it was off limits for the season ticket holders who had been guaranteed a stand seat. there was open revolt as lots of us had no choice but to seat ourselves on the ground blocking the exits.Eventually common sense prevailed and we were offered seats by the same said stewards that we were trying to remove us.

ColeTrain

seligehgit wrote: »

Well for last year's Connaught semi final against Roscommon they'd a whole middle section of the stand cordoned off for the so called VIPs whilst it was off limits for the season ticket holders who had been guaranteed a stand seat. there was open revolt as lots of us had no choice but to seat ourselves on the ground blocking the exits.Eventually common sense prevailed and we were offered seats by the same said stewards that we were trying to remove us.

I saw the section that they had cordoned off, I was standing in the opposite end. V.I.P's ffs, probably a few councillors that would shut the curtains if Mayo were playing a league game in their back garden