Trapping Mink

Monet.

i am starting to trap mink and i was thinking if i caught one how would i kill it.
What is the legal and most humane way to kill a mink????????
???????????

Cass

Air Rifle is probably the best bet as it will not damage the trap. you could also try a .22lr with a rat shot or standard round, but be VERY CAREFUL. Also a shotgun with a 9.5 at a yard or two should do the job without doing any damage to the trap.

Here is a previous thread on the matter. Worth a read.

Monet.

Ezridax wrote: »

Air Rifle is probably the best bet as it will not damage the trap. you could also try a .22lr with a rat shot or standard round, but be VERY CAREFUL. Also a shotgun with a 9.5 at a yard or two should do the job without doing any damage to the trap.

Here is a previous thread on the matter. Worth a read.

Thanks lad
but is there any laws saying what u can and can not do???????

Cass

As they are classed as vermin there is no rules/laws/guidelines to say how they can be despatched. However, and without going into humanity/morality debate as it is not permmitted on the hunting forum, you want to use as quick and clean a method as possible. There is nothing to be gained from prolonging the deed so any of the methods above would work a treat.

Some things not to be used would be;

• Stick
• Stick with nails
• Spade
• Bag/drowning
• Water boarding
• 12V battery to the nuts,
• Chair with no seat, and a rope with a big knot (you all seen the film).
• etc

Remmy

Ezridax wrote: »

Some things not to be used would be;

• Stick
• Stick with nails
• Spade
• Bag/drowning
• Water boarding
• 12V battery to the nuts,
• Chair with no seat, and a rope with a big knot (you all seen the film).
• etc

Ha quality:D

Tackleberrywho

You have to be humane and quick.
Drowning Mink is not Humane as they have high lung capacity as natural swimmers.

Fur Farms use carbon monoxide posioning as it puts them to sleep before they go.
You have to adhere to cruelity to animals laws when dispatching any wild mammal

terminator2

you are dead right tack ......stick his head on to the exhaust pipe ,leave for 10 mins that should do the trick.....:D......man in england prosecuted for drowning a squirrel a while back

terminator2

Ezridax wrote: »

Air Rifle is probably the best bet as it will not damage the trap. you could also try a .22lr with a rat shot or standard round, but be VERY CAREFUL. Also a shotgun with a 9.5 at a yard or two should do the job without doing any damage to the trap.

Here is a previous thread on the matter. Worth a read.

a shotgun at 9 yards will blow a 1inch hole in a cavity block ,and you think it wont do any damage to your trap.......not good advice there kid

blackstairsboy

Think he meant with shot size nine terminator. Never used this method so cant vouch for it either way but that's the way it read to me.

landkeeper

easystart it's ether stick him in a bag in the trap a good squirt of that stuff close the bag
sleepy sleepy nighty nighty

Cass

terminator2 wrote: »

a shotgun at 9 yards will blow a 1inch hole in a cavity block ,and you think it wont do any damage to your trap.......not good advice there kid

Firstly its not a cavity block.
Secondly i said SHOULD
Thidly i said be careful not to damage the trap
Fourthly i gave suggestions however right or wrong. Your only contribution was to correct me without giving an alternative.

terminator2

let me get this right....you just suggested to someone to fire a shotgun at his trap from 1-2 yards away and try not to damage his trap......has to be the worst piece of advice i ever heard......all in favour with ezridax raise your hand and be counted..........dont worry about shooting yourself in the foot.....

Cass

terminator2 wrote: »

let me get this right....you just suggested to someone to fire a shotgun at his trap from 1-2 yards away and try not to damage his trap......has to be the worst piece of advice i ever heard......

Fair enough. What would you suggest? I still haven't seen any suggestions only mockery of mine.

all in favour with ezridax raise your hand and be counted..........dont worry about shooting yourself in the foot.....

How would you shoot yourself in the foot. You'd want to be some fool to place your foot under a trap and then aim directly down on it.

What about the air rifle and .22lr options? They foolish too?

Please enlighten me.

terminator2

mink should be emptied from the trap into a hession sack ,and then clubbed in the bottom of the sack.......why not use a mk6 fenn kill trap , it would save all this fighting,......sorry if i ruffled any feathers

fodda

terminator2 wrote: »

mink should be emptied from the trap into a hession sack ,and then clubbed in the bottom of the sack.....

Is this professional advice or just your personal opinion?

I should imagine this isnt very humane?

Cass

terminator2 wrote: »

mink should be emptied from the trap into a hession sack ,and then clubbed in the bottom of the sack...,

Its an option. Not a very nice one hence the reason i added it to the list (along with the joke options) of methods not to use. Also there are laws against cruelty however in keeping with forum rules i cannot get into a debate on morality, cruelty, and humanity.

....why not use a mk6 fenn kill trap , it would save all this fighting

Again an option. You could have posted that a few posts back and that would have saved any disagreement and given your previous posts credit instead of appearing to be just attacking mine for the sake of it.

......sorry if i ruffled any feathers

No feathers ruffled just wondering why you would "attack" one piece of a post so aggressively and ignore the rest of it.

fodda wrote:

I should imagine this isnt very humane?

There is no way this thread is going to get into a debate on humanity, cruelty or morality so please, as i've said above, do not start one as it will be removed.

Tackleberrywho

fodda wrote: »

Is this professional advice or just your personal opinion?

I should imagine this isnt very humane?

Carbon monoxide puts us mammals into a deep sleep.
A vet told me that was the most humane way if Injections were not available

I also watched a doc on BBC were they went to a mink farm and used a carbon monoxide box as their method.

If they did not bite; a swift bar to the back of the neck scull will also suffice

fodda

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Carbon monoxide puts us mammals into a deep sleep.
A vet told me that was the most humane way if Injections were not available

I also watched a doc on BBC were they went to a mink farm and used a carbon monoxide box as their method.

If they did not bite; a swift bar to the back of the neck scull will also suffice

I should have wrote it better Tack. What i really meant was ..... not very humane when it could be dispatched with a air rifle/rifle.

Tackleberrywho

fodda wrote: »

I should have wrote it better Tack. What i really meant was ..... not very humane when it could be dispatched with a air rifle/rifle.

Not really
It's down to experience.
My Gran could kill hundreds of turkeys and pluck them in the one day

Sometimes a rifle is not the most suitable

bazza888

i have fenn traps got them one day for rat mink in 2 different sizes,but never used them as i was worried that say a pine martin or something might get caught in it even if i made a box to go over it

J.R.

http://www.diy-pest-control.co.uk/mink-pestid-61.php&filter=control


Good article here on trapping mink.


I haven't trapped mink for years now but when we did & caught one we used two different methods:

1.
My friend had an air rifle & a quick shot to the back of the head, while the mink was in the trap, killed it humanely.

2.
When he wasn't available & only a shotgun was available we used to tip the mink from the trap into an old fertilizer bag & tie tightly. This was placed in the field and fire at with shotgun from about 30 yards.

I'm sure a .22LR would work as well but you'd need to be very careful of backstop. You don't want a .22 passing through the mink & hitting a stone, causing it to ricochet. A good, soft, safe backstop would definitely be needed.......a large round bale or similar would be ideal.

I know one chap who would shoot the mink with a shotgun in the trap. He used no. 9 cartridge and stood 25 - 28 yards away. Never witnessed it but he said it instantly & humanely killed the mink. The trap had a few dented wires on the side but was still perfectly useable.

pugw

terminator2 wrote: »

mink should be emptied from the trap into a hession sack ,and then clubbed in the bottom of the sack..

Anyone who has done a lot of trapping would no this is rubbish as there is a hugge chance they would escape when transferring them out of the cage. Best job is a .22 with subs, put the barrelright up to the cage and fire down into a soft backdrop like a lawn!

crackcrack30

Pity u cant purchase 1-2 lower caliber rifles on a rifle licence, (maybe small admin charge) the gun shops would clean up and the vat would circulate back into the economy, i'd purchase straight away................

johngalway

Cumbersome option:

Fabricate some type of box that a live catch cage can be placed into. Hook this up to the exhaust of a vehicle/engine.

.22lr option:

Remove any silencer. Carefully push barrel through the cage, poke mink once or twice gently. Remove barrel. From one end or the other (not sides, not top) push the barrel in through the mesh again. Mink will bite the muzzle of the rifle, squeeze trigger.

Safest option?:

Air rifle, but with the licensing laws here it's a lot more likely any trapper will have better access to a .22lr than any type of air rifle - unfortunately.

Kill traps:

They're great, if there's no other species in the area that can be harmed by them.

Tea drinker

following on from the other lads advice maybe an ould plastic bag (with a few small holes on the end) that the trap will fit into, and the other end around the exhaust pipe?

Sounds a bit like the yolk the lads made on that film Apollo 13 mind you ;-)

jhcossie

now before anyone starts I DO NOT KNOW IF ITS LEGAL, its an idea but can they be poisened in the trap

garv123

jhcossie wrote: »

now before anyone starts I DO NOT KNOW IF ITS LEGAL, its an idea but can they be poisened in the trap

even if its not illegal you will risk poisoning other protected animals such as pine martin and stoat which are protected species

Tackleberrywho

jhcossie wrote: »

now before anyone starts I DO NOT KNOW IF ITS LEGAL, its an idea but can they be poisened in the trap

John Gormless Baned the use of baited posion

Posioned meat is liek a land mine, does not care what damage it does.
That is why humane traps work best, as if a hedgehog for example goes in it can be released un harmed

pugw

jhcossie wrote: »

now before anyone starts I DO NOT KNOW IF ITS LEGAL, its an idea but can they be poisened in the trap

He means poison it when caught as a means of dispatch id say lads. Ya JH ive heard of it being done but not sure if its legal!

pugw

johngalway wrote: »

Remove any silencer. Carefully push barrel through the cage, poke mink once or twice gently. Remove barrel. From one end or the other (not sides, not top) push the barrel in through the mesh again. Mink will bite the muzzle of the rifle, squeeze trigger.

Ifind shooting from the top down is better John as the bullet has less distance to travel thus less chance of the bullet hitting the wire if you dont get your angles right!

No6

The Mink trap I have is only opened by putting your fingers into the trap and pushing up the bar!!! I wouldn't fancy it with a live mink!!:eek: I'll stick with the bullet in the head, An air pistol would be ideal if they didn't have to be licensed!!

Longranger

Put the trap in the sitting room and turn on Fair City at full volume! They'll be dead in seconds:):) could be TOO cruel though...

Spunk84

Get a pair of gloves and bring the cage/mink to the field. Release the mink out of the cage in the middle of the field and plant it with the shotgun.Simple

Or just get a pair of thick gloves, put your hand in, grab it and snap it's neck! Simple

It's only a mink FFS you would think your dealing with a lion:D shouldn't be trapping if you can't dispose of it humanly

Birdnuts

pugw wrote: »

Ya JH ive heard of it being done but not sure if its legal!

No its not legal - such stuff can only now be legally used in covered baits for rodents

PS: I dispatch mink with an air rifle:)

ROSSKI

I have a trap set for two weeks and I have had no joy, I have used Sardines ,Salmon heads - I know there is alot of mink in the area but I just cant catch any:o

I was talking to a fella that does alot of trapping and he reckons the 1st one is allways the hardest because of the scent, Anyone any ideas of what to try or know where I would get this Mink Pheromone(I think thats the name)??

pugw

ROSSKI wrote: »

, Anyone any ideas of what to try or know where I would get this Mink Pheromone(I think thats the name)??

http://www.fntpost.com/Categories/Trapping/Baits,+Lures+Urines+and+Accessories/Lures/Lures+(Listed+by+Target+Animal)/Mink+Lures/

Nice people to deal with but shipping can be a bit pricey! Maybe try smoked fish like kippers they keep better in summer than raw fish

ring 20

release mink 'with care' to an angry terrier :eek:

ace86

i am trapping mink myself at the moment and having little success i am watching see where they crossing roads and things and placing trap as near as i can to a stream or river. i always wear disposable gloves when i am moving it around and always bait the trap with fish bait of some sort. you can dipose of them with a .22 and subsonic rds.I wouldnt advise sticking your hand in to the trap to grab them because if they bit ya they won't let go till they hear a bone breaking so i am told. you can catch them by the tail and and they won't come curl up,like a cat to bite ya as they have no back bone. i have caught cats in my trap would that deter a mink from entering it?

landkeeper

of course they have a backbone they are a vertebrate as far as letting it starve to death you don't deserve to set foot in the countryside if you intend to let anything die like that :mad:

ace86

landkeeper wrote: »

of course they have a backbone they are a vertebrate as far as letting it starve to death you don't deserve to set foot in the countryside if you intend to let anything die like that :mad:

if he came into your hen house i'm sure he would be kind enough to let them all there and not kill them all for the craic and if you read some other fellows ideas of firing into a trap with a shotgun well thats highly dangerous in my eyes lad.

landkeeper

sorry lad i have had enough experience of both mink and foxes in pens of birds both pheasants and fowl to know the pain of picking up bags of corpses
HOWEVER i would still not starve any animal to death in a trap and as far as i'm concerned anyone who would is a w###ker and deserves what ever they get either from the powers that be or in the greater scheme of things even the suggestion of it goes against any principle i have regarding animals

Spunk84

ace86 wrote: »

i am trapping mink myself at the moment and having little success i am watching see where they crossing roads and things and placing trap as near as i can to a stream or river. i always wear disposable gloves when i am moving it around and always bait the trap with fish bait of some sort. you can dipose of them with a .22 and subsonic rds or else let them starve and the result is the same.I wouldnt advise sticking your hand in to the trap to grab them because if they bit ya they won't let go till they hear a bone breaking so i am told. you can catch them by the tail and and they won't come curl up,like a cat to bite ya as they have no back bone. i have caught cats in my trap would that deter a mink from entering it?

Seriously man? Let the animal starve to death:eek: abit OTT. Said it before if you cant dispatch an animal then you should leave them alone and let someone who knows how.

They will let go,thats just an old wives tale about the bone breaking:D Same as when a badger/Fox allegedly lock jaws on to your dog your supposed to put a stick to its ear and break it. The animal thinks it broke the dogs neck and lets go LMFAO some stupid idiots i hear actual try it ROFLMAO

ace86

landkeeper wrote: »

sorry lad i have had enough experience of both mink and foxes in pens of birds both pheasants and fowl to know the pain of picking up bags of corpses
HOWEVER i would still not starve any animal to death in a trap and as far as i'm concerned anyone who would is a w###ker and deserves what ever they get either from the powers that be or in the greater scheme of things even the suggestion of it goes against any principle i have regarding animals

well thats fair enough if a fellow has no .22 and use his shotgun and shoots him in the cage and possiably could injury himself or others is not a
w###ker then what do you propose in how to do it?. A fox will ever only kill what it needs to survive most of the time and a mink does it for fun.

ace86

Spunk84 wrote: »

Seriously man? Let the animal starve to death:eek: abit OTT. Said it before if you cant dispatch an animal then you should leave them alone and let someone who knows how.

They will let go,thats just an old wives tale about the bone breaking:D Same as when a badger/Fox allegedly lock jaws on to your dog your supposed to put a stick to its ear and break it. The animal thinks it broke the dogs neck and lets go LMFAO some stupid idiots i hear actual try it ROFLMAO

i never said i didn't know how to dispatch aniamal i offered a suggestion thats all some ideas proposed by fellows in shooting at the cage is crazy in my eyes with the shotgun could injury themselves or destroy there cage.

landkeeper

if you go back and read the posts i suggested one way of dispatching mr mink that does actually work however there are lots of ways of killing it quickly and humanely but to leave it to starve is not on no way no how
as suggested by another poster if you have no effective way of dispatching it don't try to catch it
as far as mink kllling for fun and a fox only killing what it needs just shows how little you know about the animals you are talking about
a fox is a reflex predator ie if he is presented with an opportunity he takes it his reflexes take over that is why you get mass kills of poultry he keeps snapping till the flapping stops he is acting on pure instinct it is what a million years of evolution have done.
mink are similar and are hoarders they will kill a lot and come back over the next while to eat what they have killed, in nature they wouldn't be presented with 100 hens in a pen they might find a group of birds and killwhat they could it's in their nature but it's not for fun
the only annimal that truly kills for fun is homo sapiens

kowloon

ace86 wrote: »

well thats fair enough if a fellow has no .22 and use his shotgun and shoots him in the cage and possiably could injury himself or others is not a
w###ker then what do you propose in how to do it?. A fox will ever only kill what it needs to survive most of the time and a mink does it for fun.

Bull****, they love killing birds if they're there to be killed, much in the way cats and dogs kill things they don't eat.



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fodda

They (animals ...foxes...mink...etc) kill all so they can go back and retrieve their prey later because they have been presented with a once off oppertunity of many meals. Most animals including humans would do the same.

An animal would probably never be presented with such an oppertunity in the wild of finding multiple dinners all confined in one space because a human has kept them there whilst engaged in farming or other. Why any animal would have access to multiple dinners which arent properly protected is a different matter.

Ace86 is correct animals only kill for food or in protection. Only humans kill for other than food.

Dupont

have 3 mink trap set for a man who has one coming into his shed and eating the eggs. nothing yet and have it set a week,dropped down larsen trap with call bird in it wedensday night,came to me yesterday that somthing got into call bird and killed it.

Birdnuts

ace86 wrote: »

well thats fair enough if a fellow has no .22 and use his shotgun and shoots him in the cage and possiably could injury himself or others is not a
w###ker then what do you propose in how to do it?. A fox will ever only kill what it needs to survive most of the time and a mink does it for fun.

Get yourself an air-gun lad - I've never had problems disbatchin mink in traps this way

ace86

Birdnuts wrote: »

Get yourself an air-gun lad - I've never had problems disbatchin mink in traps this way

Have a rifle for the job man so no need of spending more money for nothing but thanks for that anyway.

kowloon

fodda wrote: »

Ace86 is correct animals only kill for food or in protection. Only humans kill for other than food.

They do kill for sport, and also to teach their young.

The above chickens were protected by electric fencing.