What Armies can you join being Irish?

PaurGasm

In relation to me being Irish, I know these few...

Irish Defence Forces
French Foreign Legion
Irish Royal Regiment(British Army)
US Marines(But you need a Green Card and 5years living in US or something like that)

What other military forces can Irish join?

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Now don't be like my dad and give me some patriotic speech **** about how I HAVE to join The Irish Defence Forces(Im mad to get a Cadetship in the coming years!). I just want to know what my options are...

LondonIrish90

You can join far more than the Royal Irish Regiment if joining the British Armed Forces was the path you decided you wanted to go down.

Evangelion

Been years since I had a look at the US army, but then it was Green card to Join as a recruit and Citizenship for Cadet.

Citizeship required 5 years of living in the States, but that could be reduced to 1 if you served in the armed forces (Green Card equired), or less if you serve in a "fighting war"

There's no restriction on BA. The selection process is quite lengthy (over a year anyway), and you need to be within the age limit by the time you enter RMAS

xflyer

I'm sure Al Qaeda have a fairly limited requirement to join.

BigDuffman

I've heard that you cannot become an officer in the Royal Marines Commando if your Irish!

Gandalph

Do you not lose your citizenship if you pledge allegiance to another country? I dont really know I just heard stories like

Lemming

BigDuffman wrote: »

I've heard that you cannot become an officer in the Royal Marines Commando if your Irish!

AFAIK, there are few if any limits on what roles an Irish person can sign up to in the British armed forces; gender restrictions not withstanding.

It wasn't me!

The RN, of which the Marines are a component group, require five years' residency before you are eligible for a commission, so you can't wander in from Ireland and become an officer, but you can serve for five years, during which you're resident in the UK, and then apply.

Donny5

Lemming wrote: »

AFAIK, there are few if any limits on what roles an Irish person can sign up to in the British armed forces; gender restrictions not withstanding.

That's not true at all. There's a load of them. You can't work on submarines, you can't get join the Navy (or Marines) as an officer, you can't be an RAF pilot and there's a load more. Obviously, these don't all apply if you have dual citizenship and I'm sure there are workarounds.

Donny5

It wasn't me! wrote: »

The RN, of which the Marines are a component group, require five years' residency before you are eligible for a commission, so you can't wander in from Ireland and become an officer, but you can serve for five years, during which you're resident in the UK, and then apply.

It's not just five years residency. It's five years residency and citizenship for Navy commissions.

Lemming

I stand corrected. I have dual nationality.

paky

you can join the israeli army too. have a look at the mahal. it helps if your jewish

the bald guy from miami ink served in it

cyrusdvirus

Lemming wrote: »

I stand corrected. I have dual nationality.

As do any of us who's parents were born before 1948.

If your parents were born before 1948, before the Republic of Ireland act, they can apply for UK citizenship. And then you can.

BUT it does mean one of your parents giving up their Irish citizenship!!

Lemming

gatecrash wrote: »

BUT it does mean one of your parents giving up their Irish citizenship!!

That's ok; one of my parents doesn't have Irish citizenship anyway

xflyer

BUT it does mean one of your parents giving up their Irish citizenship!!

There in no requirement to give up Irish citizenship. In any case your parent would only be a British Subject not a citizen.

In any case the residency requirement applies. The main reason there is a restriction on certain jobs is because of security clearance issues in part forced on the British for their use of American equipment.

RMD

It wasn't me! wrote: »

The RN, of which the Marines are a component group, require five years' residency before you are eligible for a commission, so you can't wander in from Ireland and become an officer, but you can serve for five years, during which you're resident in the UK, and then apply.

Not true, the Irish can join as a Marine Engineer Officer, a Dental Officer, an Environmental Health Officer, a Medical Officer or a Nursing Officer.

PatsytheNazi

xflyer wrote: »

I'm sure Al Qaeda have a fairly limited requirement to join.

ROTFL

digme

xflyer wrote: »

I'm sure Al Qaeda have a fairly limited requirement to join.

you mean cia right?

xflyer

digme wrote: »

you mean cia right?

Well they recruit you not the other way around. :rolleyes: Unless you're already American.

Richard

xflyer wrote: »

There in no requirement to give up Irish citizenship. In any case your parent would only be a British Subject not a citizen.

And British subjects can't pass this status on to the their children.

I think US citizens may lose their citizenship if they join a foreign army.

MickJB1989

Richard wrote: »

I think US citizens may lose their citizenship if they join a foreign army.

Bang on, the US consider it tantamount to treachery to serve in another nation's armed forces. You'll probably find most European armies will take anyone without a criminal record as an enlisted man, they don't tend to mind who dies for them, as long as foreigners don't lead them.

The EU's free-movement of persons as might prove a way to enforce/ challenge this.

Evangelion

I may be wrong, but the way I understood the BA works for Irish people, is that they are considered British, and ROI residency counts as British for the purposes of joining. I looked at it before and it was very unclear on the site, including on the application form. All your post needs to be routed through the base in Belfast

RMD

As far as I know we are considered Commonwealth citizens by the Navy and RAF, while British citizens in the view of the Army. I remember when filling out some online form before there was no "Irish" nationality, it was under "British - Irish" on the Army website, not sure about the RAF or Navy.

effluent

I've noticed that the azzies don't get a mention when someone is considering joining another countries army. I remember reading an article about an Irish lad in the Austrailian special forces who was killed in Afghanistan. (If I find the link I'll post it)

Wouldn't it be easier for someone to get the citezenship requirements to join the Australian Defence Force's as opposed to the American military?

Teyla Emmagan

gatecrash wrote: »

As do any of us who's parents were born before 1948.

If your parents were born before 1948, before the Republic of Ireland act, they can apply for UK citizenship. And then you can.

BUT it does mean one of your parents giving up their Irish citizenship!!

I never knew that, that's mad.

mattjack

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

I never knew that, that's mad.

it is Ted......

Corsendonk

effluent wrote: »

I've noticed that the azzies don't get a mention when someone is considering joining another countries army. I remember reading an article about an Irish lad in the Austrailian special forces who was killed in Afghanistan. (If I find the link I'll post it)

Wouldn't it be easier for someone to get the citezenship requirements to join the Australian Defence Force's as opposed to the American military?

RTE were replaying a radio documentary from the 1990s on RTE Choice a couple of months ago about Irish lads that fought in Vietnam for America and Australia. Was interesting listening to them talking about their experiences,

Zambia

effluent wrote: »

Wouldn't it be easier for someone to get the citezenship requirements to join the Australian Defence Force's as opposed to the American military?

That takes 4 years

pablomakaveli

paky wrote: »

seems like 'the Irish' are good enough for cannon fodder but not good enough for commanding

Irish citizens can be officers in the Army. But any job that requires security clearance ,which a lot of RAF and Navy jobs would require, are normally unavailable to Irish people who apply because you need to be resident for 5 years in the UK to get the security clearance.

effluent

Zambia wrote: »

That takes 4 years

Is that for a Visa/Green Card or citezenship?

I was thinking this would be a quicker/realistic option compared to trying to join the American Forces if one had a low chance of getting a green card?

Zambia

Citizenship, once you get that you can apply that's another year ish so I hear.