Half-baked Republican Presidential Fruitcakes (and fellow confections)

The Mad Hatter

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jPopxz1HBU

I think Cain got into the race to promote his new book, and was pretty alarmed to discover that he was doing quite well in the primaries. He was left in the bizarre and amusing position of having to sabotage his own campaign.

robindch

Voting democrat is like peeing on an electric fence. Or something like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCpBibIt10o

The Mad Hatter

Surprisingly lucid statement from a Fox news reader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuF03PTNpp8

robindch

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Surprisingly lucid statement from a Fox news reader:

Me laptop blew up towards the end of that -- what was the last thing he said?

The Mad Hatter

robindch wrote: »

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Surprisingly lucid statement from a Fox news reader:

Me laptop blew up towards the end of that -- what was the last thing he said?

"Politics is weird. And creepy. And now I know lacks even the loosest attachment to anything like reality."

robindch

Strange to see that appearing on Faux News. I presume he was asked to retract it and apologize to the nation's conservatives.

robindch

Joe_Dull

robindch wrote: »

Strange to see that appearing on Faux News. I presume he was asked to retract it and apologize to the nation's conservatives.

Shep Smith is the only decent host on Fox News. He often makes pretty sensible points which is more than can be said for any of the other gombeens that read the teleprompters on that station.

joseph brand

Republican Party too 'wacko' to still be considered mainstream.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2012/0526/1224316731906.html?via=mr

Two prominent political scientists say the Grand Old Party has become more loyal to party than to country and is to blame for dysfunction in the US political system

THE REPUBLICAN presidential candidate Mitt Romney embraces the idea that climate change is a hoax.

His immigration policy is so extreme it’s been endorsed by Russell Pearce and Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the architects of Arizona’s law.

Allen West, a Republican representative from Florida, accused up to to 81 Democratic congressmen of being members of the Communist party. No one called him on it.

At a Republican primary debate last year, the audience cheered for the idea that an unemployed man who loses his medical insurance should be allowed to die.

The last sentence in the above quote highlights them good ole christian values. Jesus hated the poor, and the needy.

robindch

Texas Republicans come out strongly against critical thinking skills:

State Platform Document wrote:

We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

http://www.dailytech.com/Fearful+of+Evolution+Texas+GOP+Looks+to+Ban+Critical+Thinking+Education/article25070.htm

Sarky

Ned Flanders: I say there are some things we don't WANT to know! IMPORTANT things!

sponsoredwalk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xexK-96ChX0

Imagine being a republican at this moment in history...

Delirium

Romney Advisers Reveal Strategy: Ignore Journalists, Pander To Right-Wing Conspriacy Websites

In a stunning interview with Breitbart.com, two top advisers to Mitt Romney revealed the campaign’s plan to largely ignore journalists in favor of right-wing conspiracy websites.

From the beginning of the campaign, Romney has pointedly avoided news outlets who might pose tough questions. The press dubbed it “the Mittness Protection Program.” As the campaign wore on, Romney has refused to answer direct questions about major policy issues central to the campaign. For example, Romney has still not stated whether he would undo Obama’s order ending deportations for many young undocumented immigrants.

Galvasean

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Imagine being a republican at this moment in history...

To me that shows that the party's grass roots ideologies have failed. Their own elected leaders cannot even partake in them.

robindch

robindch wrote: »

Texas Republicans come out strongly against critical thinking skills:

On the plus side, they do support assaulting children:

GOP wrote:

We support eliminating bureaucratic prohibitions on corporal discipline and home schooling in foster homes [...] We recommend that local school boards and classroom teachers be given more authority to deal with disciplinary problems. Corporal punishment is effective and legal in Texas [...] We oppose actions of social agencies to classify traditional methods of discipline, including corporal punishment, as child abuse.

And then, there's this:

GOP wrote:

We encourage state and federal governments to severely prosecute illegal dealers and manufacturers of addictive substances and pornography. We urge Congress to discourage import of such substances into our country. Faith based rehabilitation programs should be emphasized. We oppose legalization of illicit drugs. We support an effective abstinence-based educational program for children. We oppose any “needle exchange” program.

etc, etc, etc. Insane.

Quatermain

Jeez...they've just dropped any veneer of sanity by this stage. How can anyone possibly agree with this absolute nonsense?

joseph brand

We encourage state and federal governments to severely prosecute illegal dealers and manufacturers of addictive substances and pornography. We urge Congress to discourage import of such substances into our country. Faith based rehabilitation programs should be emphasized. We oppose legalization of illicit drugs. We support an effective abstinence-based educational program for children. We oppose any “needle exchange” program.

One would be forgiven for reading this as a statement from some Theocracy in the Middle East.

Land of The Free indeed.

Hotblack Desiato

koth wrote: »

Romney has pointedly avoided news outlets who might pose tough questions. The press dubbed it “the Mittness Protection Program.”

Damn you to eternal nothingness, I almost splattered communion wine beer all over my monitor when I read that :pac:

jank

joseph brand wrote: »

One would be forgiven for reading this as a statement from some Theocracy in the Middle East.

Land of The Free indeed.

I dont understand this statement, can you point out a country with a history of better freedoms than the US?

Also there are only 2 things in that statment that might be questionable. I dont agree with them myself but people have a right to put forward a party/politican that purveys their own values. It is then up to the electorate to judge.

swampgas

jank wrote: »

I dont understand this statement, can you point out a country with a history of better freedoms than the US?

Also there are only 2 things in that statment that might be questionable. I dont agree with them myself but people have a right to put forward a party/politican that purveys their own values. It is then up to the electorate to judge.

If the Texas Republicans get their way, then Texas will be a little less free. Just because the US has a history of (ever decreasing?) freedom, doesn't imply that the proposed policies of the Texas Republicans are somehow automatically pro-freedom.

On the other issue, the mistake you are making (IMO) is confusing majority rule based law with rights-based law. The US has historically been all about the rights of the individual - regardless of whether that individual is part of a majority or not. If the individual has a particular right under the US constitution, that cannot be negated by a simple majority vote.

So, if "freedom of religion" is a right, then the government should not be pushing "faith based rehabilitation programs", regardless of the numbers who might support it.

jank

swampgas wrote: »

If the Texas Republicans get their way, then Texas will be a little less free. Just because the US has a history of (ever decreasing?) freedom, doesn't imply that the proposed policies of the Texas Republicans are somehow automatically pro-freedom..

I never said the GOP were pro or anti freedom, all I said is that people have a right to campaign to democratically elect Representatives that correlate with their values. Are you saying that they cannot?

swampgas wrote: »

On the other issue, the mistake you are making (IMO) is confusing majority rule based law with rights-based law. The US has historically been all about the rights of the individual - regardless of whether that individual is part of a majority or not. If the individual has a particular right under the US constitution, that cannot be negated by a simple majority vote..

I know. The US is a republic first and foremost with the constitution and the bill of rights at the forefront of their nation. That is why a state such as Utah has to comply with federal laws, otherwise it wouldn't be much of a United States of America. Of course there is lots of greys here hence why the SCOTUS is always under scrutiny.

swampgas wrote: »

So, if "freedom of religion" is a right, then the government should not be pushing "faith based rehabilitation programs", regardless of the numbers who might support it.

I totally agree, never did I say anywhere that I did!?

Personally I think there is alot of scare mongering about the GOP. I am ANYTHING but a fan of the social conservative wing of the GOP but at the end of the day they have a right of freedom of association, speech and electioneering as the rest of us. To take for example Bush, did the social conservatives achieve any big notable changes to "limit" freedoms for the wider American public? Not that I recall. Remember it was the Neo-Cons that brought in the patriot act not the social conservatives.

joseph brand

jank wrote: »

Personally I think there is alot of scare mongering about the GOP. I am ANYTHING but a fan of the social conservative wing of the GOP but at the end of the day they have a right of freedom of association, speech and electioneering as the rest of us. To take for example Bush, did the social conservatives achieve any big notable changes to "limit" freedoms for the wider American public? Not that I recall. Remember it was the Neo-Cons that brought in the patriot act not the social conservatives.

Aren't they being bought by the Koch bros? What about Sheldon Adelson?

A list of some of the donors.


Truth is. The Republican campaign is fuelled by billionaires and millionaires hoping to keep the tax breaks they enjoy so much.

Romney himself, who has a few quid, in several offshore accounts, made $22 million in 2010 and paid only 14% tax.

They're gonna have to tighten the belts even more and tax the middle class into extinction and the poorer folks into coffins.

And who knows, if Romney gets into power, Evolution might be scrapped from their school curriculum. They could scrap NASA and build a mega church/s. They could even start, 'The Crusades' part II? The Holiest War!

jank

joseph brand wrote: »

Aren't they being bought by the Koch bros? What about Sheldon Adelson?

Are the GOP being bought and controlled by the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson, eh no more than the Democratic party is being bought and controlled by their aligned interest groups e.g. teacher unions.

joseph brand wrote: »

A list of some of the donors.

Truth is. The Republican campaign is fuelled by billionaires and millionaires hoping to keep the tax breaks they enjoy so much.

Funny, only 4 years ago most of those millionaires were siding with Obama, were you complaining then?

Wall Street puts its money behind Obama
Obama still flush with cash from financial sector despite frosty relations
Democrats are darlings of Wall St.

Thanks to Permabear for the links.

You also must know that there other vested interest groups out there pumping their millions into the Obama and democratic campaign. Do you think this is wrong or only when its for someone that you are not politically aligned with?

joseph brand wrote: »

Romney himself, who has a few quid, in several offshore accounts, made $22 million in 2010 and paid only 14% tax.

They're gonna have to tighten the belts even more and tax the middle class into extinction and the poorer folks into coffins.

So you don't like rich people, I think that much is clear. Viva la revolution!

joseph brand wrote: »

And who knows, if Romney gets into power, Evolution might be scrapped from their school curriculum. They could scrap NASA and build a mega church/s. They could even start, 'The Crusades' part II? The Holiest War!

The above is absolute horse $hit and you know it. Where is that "famous" atheist rationality? Nope, goes all out the window when emotions come to play. I find it hilarious really


Anyway, I fail to see how any of your post contributes to the general makeup of my question apart from a good-ol populist left wing rant.

robindch

Mitt Romney picks a far-right running mate:

http://jezebel.com/5934190/9-depressingly-kooky-facts-about-paul-ryan

PopePalpatine

I am repulsed (best word I can think of right now) by the Republican Party. When Bachmann, Perry and Santorum were gaining steam I was horrified. Of course, there was little chance that they would beat Obama (they would alienate the centre), but the hi-jacking of the Republican Party by Christian fundamentalists worries me.

fitz0

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I am repulsed (best word I can think of right now) by the Republican Party. When Bachmann, Perry and Santorum were gaining steam I was horrified. Of course, there was little chance that they would beat Obama (they would alienate the centre), but the hi-jacking of the Republican Party by Christian fundamentalists worries me.

This could easily be a description of the Newsroom, Sorkin's new drama. it can be heavy handed but the general message is that the far right (not necessarily Christians, but they're given a look in), how the far right is undermining America.

Handsome Bob

You'd swear the Republicans were trying to sabotage their own campaign. I wouldn't mind, but if they had actually come up with some semi-decent candidates for the presidency, they would have had a good shot at taking on Obama (given his less than stellar first term).

My prediction is that Romney and Ryan shoot themselves in the foot, while Obama needlessly wastes millions and millions on another flashy but hollow PR campaign.

joseph brand

Paul Ryan is magic!

Rachel Maddow is brilliant. Check her out.

Christ the Redeemer

joseph brand wrote: »

Paul Ryan is magic!

Rachel Maddow is brilliant. Check her out.

Americas answer to everything is cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, it's been like that since the Reagan years. Hasn't worked yet.

fitz0

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

Americas answer to everything is cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, it's been like that since the Reagan years. Hasn't worked yet.

It should come with a disclaimer. As in 'I'll cut taxes* whilst in office

*offer subject to terms and conditions. Only available to the rich, super rich, uber rich and members of the republican party. Taxes for the poor will rise.'