ISSF World Cup - Ft. Benning USA

It wasn't me!

Just a heads up to say Ray Kane is shooting 10m air rifle on monday in Fort Benning. Will be good to see how he gets on on the back of some brilliant performances over the last while. Best of luck to him!

dCorbus

Best of Luck to Ray!

Cass

+1.

Top bloke, and a good shooter to boot. Best of luck.

fat-tony

Ray is in the first relay tomorrow, along with such luminaries as Debevec, Henri Hakkinen, Peter Sidi, Cyril Graff etc.
Link for startlist, results http://results.sius.com/ShootEvent.aspx?Championship=ISSFWorldCup20110514FortBenningUSA&ShootEvent=AR60M

It wasn't me!

Cheers f-t. Is he shooting any other events besides the AR60?

fat-tony

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Cheers f-t. Is he shooting any other events besides the AR60?

50m Prone and 50m 3x40

It wasn't me!

fat-tony wrote: »

50m Prone and 50m 3x40

Excellent, that'll be a great experience for him!

FLOYDSTER

fat-tony wrote: »

50m Prone and 50m 3x40

I dont think he'd be shooting any 50m events at the world cup as qualifing scores need to be achieved before selection!;)

MiGiD

Just saw his result, 575 in the qualifying. Didn't get to see it in progress but there's a 92 in there. 597 is the highest so far. There are a lot of 594s

demonloop

I thought all the big dawgs were in Hannover??

Sparks

Ray's AR60 scores:





Decent start, an 8 crept into the second string and the third, the fourth was getting back to form, that fifth string is really excellent (I'd love to know what happened to cause that 9) and the sixth string is quite good too. It's below Ray's domestic standard, but given that he's moved five timezones, to a spot with half the humidity and twice the temperature, it's not bad.

Sparks

Moved the ISSF rulechanges posts to this thread.

Sparks

From the ISSF Youtube Channel:

Opening Ceremony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX_GZzB2s9U

Air Rifle Men
Worth watching this one - a shootoff for the gold medal decided with only 0.1 of a point in the difference!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_hpRBUMis

Interesting that Piasecki doesn't use a shooting glove for his left hand. First time I've seen that on the circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVwOWmK0g7w

Air Pistol Women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2qT4auSBMM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rCRS5gIkCI

Sparks

From the ISSF Youtube Channel:

Opening Ceremony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX_GZzB2s9U

Air Rifle Men
Worth watching this one - a shootoff for the gold medal decided with only 0.1 of a point in the difference!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_hpRBUMis

Interesting that Piasecki doesn't use a shooting glove for his left hand. First time I've seen that on the circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVwOWmK0g7w

Air Pistol Women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2qT4auSBMM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rCRS5gIkCI

Sparks

And the 50m 3P Women's match highlights video is up, and a good performance from Jamie Beyerle to take gold through sheer mental toughness. Low scores for a finals because of high winds apparently. Also nice to see that the line wasn't even close to being dominated by Bleiker actions, shows it doesn't have to be custom-made and gold-plated to win in 3P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuEoXpeXLUY

demonloop

Ray is on the 2nd relay in the 3x40, anyone know what time it starts (GMT)?

Sparks

1815 our local I think (1315 in Ft.Benning).

http://www.issf-sports.org/calendar/championship_schedule.ashx?cshipid=1179

demonloop

I'd say he's fairly filling his drawers by now!

Can't wait to start watching the live scores!

Sparks

Live scores from the elimination round will go up here any minute now....

demonloop

Heres a nice selection...

Ray, Armin owns TEC-HRO, Campriani does well usually and Ken Parr Jnr from GB.

http://results.sius.com/LiveView.aspx?BibNo=1382,1353,1511,1485&Championship=ISSFWorldCup20110514FortBenningUSA&ShootEvent=FR3X40M&Phase=Elimination

demonloop

Sius is very slow? This might be better to watch

http://www.issf-shooting.org/pages/resulttargets.ashx?reskey=534849524c4d313730393139373130313b3b313137393b4652335834303b313b453b493b313b323b30

demonloop

Should this guy not be in the Juniors? Looks about 14!

Can shoot though!

http://www.issf-shooting.org/pages/resulttargets.ashx?reskey=53484652414d303530353139383930313b3b313137393b4652335834303b313b453b493b313b323b30

demonloop

94 94 92 95 for Ray in prone, unlucky at times with a few shots just falling outside the rings.

PS Am I the only one watching this?

Sparks

Nope!

demonloop

Ray finished on 1108, in case anyone is still reading the thread.

However, I'd love to know what happened this guy, wheels must have came off in the 3rd standing string, got it back together for kneeling.

http://www.issf-sports.org/pages/resulttargets.ashx?reskey=534843414e4d303531323139363830313b3b313137393b4652335834303b313b453b493b313b323b30

Anyone out there see what happened? Technical problem?

Mirosavljev is gonna be hard to catch on 1184, 7 pt lead.

It wasn't me!

demonloop wrote: »

Mirosavljev is gonna be hard to catch on 1184, 7 pt lead.

394 standing! That's a hell of a good show. Hopefully he pulls that sort of game out in the qualification round now as well. We'll see this afternoon.

demonloop

It wasn't me! wrote: »

394 standing! That's a hell of a good show. Hopefully he pulls that sort of game out in the qualification round now as well. We'll see this afternoon.

Think I'm a step ahead, the excitement had me thinking that was the Qual, when it was only the Elim!!

Nothin' won yet, the big stage now beckons! Arse twitching will hereby commence

Still like to see one of the Italians win it, good lads.

Sparks

Some scarily good shooting there yesterday from Campriani, and then you look up the field and see what De Nicolo and Brodmeier were shooting! Wonderful display of ability there.

intershoot

I cant see any of this stuff for some reason!!!

How is Ray fairing out against everyone else?? any result tables posted anywhere???

fat-tony

Results from elimination 2:
http://results.sius.com/ShootEvent.aspx?Championship=ISSFWorldCup20110514FortBenningUSA&ShootEvent=FR3X40M

Sparks

Still a long ways down the field, but to be fair to Ray, we're at a bit of a disadvantage in this country for 50m 3P - not enough ranges, not enough shooters, and not enough matches for training

intershoot

fat-tony wrote: »

Results from elimination 2:
http://results.sius.com/ShootEvent.aspx?Championship=ISSFWorldCup20110514FortBenningUSA&ShootEvent=FR3X40M

Rite............finally getting somewhere! Thanks fat-tony

I take it there was two elimination details, hench the two "rounds". How are the shooters eliminated?? is it the bottom 30% on each detail or something like that??

Ray appears to be 84th out of 86 shooters if I'm reading this correctly......does he shoot again? if so when?

Thanks

Sparks

intershoot wrote: »

I take it there was two elimination details, hench the two "rounds". How are the shooters eliminated?? is it the bottom 30% on each detail or something like that??

ISSF rulebook, 6.5.4.5 details how it's decided.
Basicly, if you don't have enough firing points for shooters, you divide up the field and the relays shoot and the top X shooters of each relay goes forward. The actual formula for X is in rule 6.5.4.5.4 and it's the usable number of firing points divided by the total number of shooters starting in the competition overall, multiplied by the number of shooters starting in the relay, rounded to the nearest integer. e.g. with 60 firing points and 101 shooters, and 47 starting in the relay, you have (60/101)*47=27.92=28 and the top 28 shooters in that relay go on to qualification.
You only see this in outdoor matches though, as airgun is all indoors, if there are more shooters than can shoot at once, you run multiple qualification relays and choose who's on which by lot.

Ray appears to be 84th out of 86 shooters if I'm reading this correctly......does he shoot again? if so when?

Not for 3P. Shoots 50m Prone on Saturday I think.

demonloop

Sparks wrote: »

ISSF rulebook, 6.5.4.5 details how it's decided.
Basicly, if you don't have enough firing points for shooters, you divide up the field and the relays shoot and the top X shooters of each relay goes forward. The actual formula for X is in rule 6.5.4.5.4 and it's the usable number of firing points divided by the total number of shooters starting in the competition overall, multiplied by the number of shooters starting in the relay, rounded to the nearest integer. e.g. with 60 firing points and 101 shooters, and 47 starting in the relay, you have (60/101)*47=27.92=28 and the top 28 shooters in that relay go on to qualification.
You only see this in outdoor matches though, as airgun is all indoors, if there are more shooters than can shoot at once, you run multiple qualification relays and choose who's on which by lot.


Not for 3P. Shoots 50m Prone on Saturday I think.

Or to simplify, think of the eliminations as a way to get into the match proper. If there is 50 start places for the match, and 140 entrants, they will have three details and the top 50 from the various details will get to the actual match.

Ray won't make the qualification (match proper) so won't be shooting anymore 3P

Did anyone find out wht the guy behind Ray on the scorelist only fired 34 standing shots? He ****-out on the 3rd string too, maybe went for a whizz and someone chopped the end off the barrel?

Sparks

demonloop wrote: »

He ****-out on the 3rd string too, maybe went for a whizz and someone chopped the end off the barrel?

Wierder things have happened -- remember Matt Emmon's rifle chamber in Athens and Bhindra's sights in Beijing?

intershoot

so the air is finished as well then??

Sparks

Almost over intershoot - Air Pistol Women and Air Rifle Men was Monday, Air Pistol Men was Tuesday, leaving only Air Rifle Women for tomorrow.

And after that, we've got Munich in June and the World Cup Final in September and that's the end of the season for this year, and it's quiet time until we kick off again early next year in February with the European championships in Finland in February, then there's a World Cup in Woolich in April, and one in Milan followed immediately by one in Munich in May, a last one in Beijing in June and then the Olympics in London at the end of July/start of August. (That's all rifle - shotgun has a different schedule).

demonloop

intershoot wrote: »

so the air is finished as well then??

TECHNOPHOBE

I know the ISSF/Sius sites aren't the easiet to navigate but come on man!!

Sparks

Actually, the ISSF calendar site has gotten much better of late....

FLOYDSTER

There are also the European Championships in Belgrade at the end of July start of August!!;)

Sparks

FLOYDSTER wrote: »

There are also the European Championships in Belgrade at the end of July start of August!!;)

Well, yeah, but that's only 50m stuff. You know, the sport where we introduce more excuses for you guys to use to explain why you shot a non-ten? :pac:

/legs it

FLOYDSTER

Sparks wrote: »

Well, yeah, but that's only 50m stuff. You know, the sport where we introduce more excuses for you guys to use to explain why you shot a non-ten? :pac:

/legs it

25,50 and 300m !;), with that last statement I'll expect to see you at Midlands at the end of the month!!:), you can show us hows its done!!

It wasn't me!

FLOYDSTER wrote: »

There are also the European Championships in Belgrade at the end of July start of August!!;)

Yes. Yes there are. Now, to find a 587 somewhere and turn it in.

Waiting for the video to be uploaded now but that looks like a hell of a final. Two scores over 1180 and 1172 just to make it!

Sparks

Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTU1A9gTRe4

And the full finals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZs6DUp6_vI

And the post-match interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngn9ZSvaAWw

It wasn't me!

Cracking final, well worth a look. As soon as the deadline for Belgrade qualifications is past, if I've not made it, I'll be starting training heavily for the 3x40. Prone should be in a great place by then anyway.

Sparks

Holy carp, the AR40 finals are tight:

1 18 1185 WU Liuxi CHN 99 100 100 100 399-38x
2 42 1522 ZUBLASING Petra ITA 100 100 100 99 399-34x
3 41 1252 NIELSEN Stine DEN 100 99 100 100 399-33x
4 50 1380 PFEILSCHIFTER Sonja GER 100 100 100 99 399-32x
5 39 1187 YI Siling CHN 99 100 100 99 398-35x
6 12 1047 OBERMOSER Stephanie AUT 99 99 100 100 398-30x
7 17 1812 PFIFFNER Sibylle SUI 98 100 99 100 397-31x
8 59 1562 KIM Sun Hwa KOR 99 99 100 99 397-27x

In fact, you have to go down to 80th place to find a score lower than 390/400!

Sparks

Finals running live here now, up to shot 6 so far...

Sparks

Nielsen just lost first place for fourth on shot 7 by only 0.2 points to Yi, with Pfeilschifter in second only 0.1 points behind and level with Zublasing. Incredibly close.

Sparks

Places 6-8 are a full 0.5 points below the leading pack as well!

Sparks

And on shot 8, Yi shares the lead with Zublasing, Nielsen climbs to 3rd place which she shares with Pfeilschifter, all of 0.3 points behind the gold. 6th,7th and 8th are now over a point behind the leading pack...

Sparks

Shot 9 sees Yi keep her gold medal place, pulling 0.3 ahead of Zublasing, and Pfeilsheifter and OberMoser are now tied for bronze 0.1 points behind that...