Bertie Ahern to advise the Nigerians

Slideshowbob

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/0414/1224294670725.html

What you all think of this?

yoshytoshy

He's a professional f**k up ,so probably knows exactly what not to do.

drBill

Can't understand how anyone would still waste money to read or listen to anything he has to say.

galwayrush

Megamelonaic.

gerryo777

I'm sure what ahern says will go down well in a country that is as bent & corrupt as he made Ireland during his time...

nordydan

yoshytoshy wrote: »

He's a professional f**k up ,so probably knows exactly what not to do.

Agree its probably a "what not to do" speaking tour of Africa

StupidLikeAFox

I can imagine a lot of politicians want to hear what he has to say. Personally he is extremely successful. He banjaxed the country in the process but sure when your a politician why bother doing right by the country when you can cream it or yourself eh?

Denerick

And yet Bertie Ahern was the most popular politician in the country who consistently got re-elected, even after it emerged he was hideously corrupt.

The irish people have a unique ability to absolve personal responsibility.

montavista

Go on Bertie you legend, nice to see he is still in demand.

gbee

Don't worry lads, he'll be asked for his bank details.......

mlumley

gbee wrote: »

Don't worry lads, he'll be asked for his bank details.......

He doesn't have a bank account.

mikom

" You Nigerians very good at 419'ers"

thebaz

has he returned the keys yet to his state funded chauffeur driven merc ?

he isn't fit to lecture on anything economically, for the untold damage his policies and corruption put on the citizens of this country - a disgrace of a man

biko

Slideshowbob wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/0414/1224294670725.html

What you all think of this?

What do YOU think?

MagicSean

I reckon he's been sent in by the military to weaken the Nigerian government in preperation for a popular coup.

Dudess

This story could have been written especially for After Hours!

TheZohanS

I can imagine how this came about...

Dear Nigerian Prince,

My name is Bertie Ahern, ex Prime Minister of Ireland.
If you send me €20,000 Western Union I can help your economy.


Regards,

Bertie Aherne

It speaks volumes that the Nigerian would trust someone like Ahern, I'd imagine the share some of the same core principles...

biko

BERTIE AHERN has taken to advising Nigerians on how they can avoid the mistakes made by Ireland and learn lessons from our woes.

"Just don't do what I did lads and you'll be grand!"
"Now where's my fee?"

"Don't worry Mr Bertie, just give us your bank details and we'll wire it over".

ejmaztec

TheZohan wrote: »

I can imagine how this came about...




It speaks volumes that the Nigerian would trust someone like Ahern, I'd imagine the share some of the same core principles...

..as in - rotten to the core.

bonerm

I find all this referencing of 419 stuff very offensive. :mad: It's only 99% of Nigerians who give the rest a bad name.

mikom

bonerm wrote: »

I find all this referencing of 419 stuff very offensive. :mad: It's only 99% of Nigerians who give the rest a bad name.

The rest are deposed princes

ejmaztec

mikom wrote: »

The rest are deposed princes

It's going to be Irish princes now, starting with His Royal Highness, Prince Bertie Mbongo the first.

Oafley Jones

It's kind of perfect in a weird way.

ilovesleep

Denerick wrote: »

And yet Bertie Ahern was the most popular politician in the country who consistently got re-elected, even after it emerged he was hideously corrupt.

Did he not run in one constituency, and one constituency only.

Anyways that fceker ahern belongs in prison, you know like icelands ex prime minster fcuked up in which the icelandicers have to pay for now. The ex prime minster of iceland was elected to do a job, he fcuked up, and was packed off to the courts and prison. Mind boggles as to why ireland is still working putting up with such bullsh1t.

Killer Wench

I think it said that he had two visits and they were each about 40,000 euros. I imagine he was the only European politician they could afford.

djpbarry

ilovesleep wrote: »

Anyways that fceker ahern belongs in prison, you know like icelands ex prime minster fcuked up in which the icelandicers have to pay for now. The ex prime minster of iceland was elected to do a job, he fcuked up, and was packed off to the courts and prison.

I don’t think that’s true. Geir Haarde was indicted for misconduct, but as far as I am aware, he is still awaiting trial before a special court.

sbsquarepants

If there is one man out there that could teach the Nigerians about scamming and thieving, it's our Bertie!

ilovesleep

djpbarry wrote: »

I don’t think that’s true. Geir Haarde was indicted for misconduct, but as far as I am aware, he is still awaiting trial before a special court.

At least he's getting a trial. Ireland allows theirs to jet around giving lectures and not holding him accountabile for his role in the economic mess that he created and we're paying for. Icelands prime minister was charged with criminal negligence in the running of the country.

Blobby George

Ahern isn't given half enough credit for enriching the lives of many in Ireland. He didn't force mortgages on to irresponsible goons. As ever the Irish mentality of pass the buck is in evidence. Always look for a scapegoat, never accept blame.

Orando Broom

Says they are too honest for their own good.

Biggins

He got €40,000+ for the speaking to them.
He really is taking the piss - but whats new!

Blobby George

Biggins wrote: »

He got €40,000+ for the speaking to them.
He really is taking the piss - but whats new!

What should he have done? Say No?

Biggins

Blobby George wrote: »

What should he have done? Say No?

My point is that they are a struggling economy.
Every trip he takes and if he charges that mad money evey time, thats lot of money gone out of their system that could be better used on housing and food?

Its a bit much but then again its fcukin' Bertie - whats new!
An utter wanker!

DoesNotCompute

Slideshowbob wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/0414/1224294670725.html

What you all think of this?

He'd fit right in with all the 419 scammers :pac:

thebaz

Blobby George wrote: »

Ahern isn't given half enough credit for enriching the lives of many in Ireland. He didn't force mortgages on to irresponsible goons. As ever the Irish mentality of pass the buck is in evidence. Always look for a scapegoat, never accept blame.

the majority of the financial/banking mess is due to developers who cannot pay back there loans - and aherne looked after them well , galway tents and all that - at the moment mortgage and home-owners default, is having little impact on our current dire straits

so i for one see aherne for what he was - he let cowen take much of the dirt that was his making, so i'd have much more respect for cowen, and thats not much

Knasher

You've got to admire him in a way. Not only does he manage to keep his party in power for years, he manages to get re-elected to another public office well after it comes to light what a massive f*ckup he is.

Then to top it all off he figures out how to make money telling people how badly he f*cked up.

I really doubt they will be asking him for economic advice, his only real skill set it how to hoodwink an entire country after all.

PeterIanStaker

They won't have much of an economy left after he's given them "advice".

They might introduce a successful plastic bag levy though.

KINGVictor

Slideshowbob wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/0414/1224294670725.html

What you all think of this?

The first paragraph of the article expressly states that " BERTIE AHERN has taken to advising Nigerians on how they can avoid the mistakes made by Ireland and learn lessons from our woes".

I really dont see anything amiss here as he is in a very good position to advise Nigeria because he was leader of Ireland during the boom era before it was all squandered.Ahern was invited to share Ireland's success story in attracting inward FDI and how a mono-economy like Nigeria could perharps replicate the Irish model in her quest for the needed diversification of the economy.

Like I said earlier, I dont see anything particularly wrong with his invitation and his statements on effective regulationof financial institutions and consistent / transparent policies are well on target. I can understand why Irish people might find it a bit ironic that Bertie is been invited to make contributions to an economic report but the consistent reference and lectures about Nigerians been corrupt and 419ers is becoming terribly boring and rehashed to be honest.

Does Nigeria have a problem with corruption? undeniably so! but events and evidence from the last few years have shown that corruption is "surprisingly" ubiquitous.

It reminds me of the old age story of the guy trying to remove the spec from his brother's eye while having a log in his.

Biggins

KINGVictor wrote: »

The first paragraph of the article expressly states that " BERTIE AHERN has taken to advising Nigerians on how they can avoid the mistakes made by Ireland and learn lessons from our woes".

I really dont see anything amiss here as he is in a very good position to advise Nigeria because he was leader of Ireland during the boom era before it was all squandered.Ahern was invited to share Ireland's success story in attracting inward FDI and how a mono-economy like Nigeria could perharps replicate the Irish model in her quest for the needed diversification of the economy.

Like I said earlier, I dont see anything particularly wrong with his invitation and his statements on effective regulationof financial institutions and consistent / transparent policies are well on target. I can understand why Irish people might find it a bit ironic that Bertie is been invited to make contributions to an economic report but the consistent reference and lectures about Nigerians been corrupt and 419ers is becoming terribly boring and rehashed to be honest.

Does Nigeria have a problem with corruption? undeniably so! but events and evidence from the last few years have shown that corruption is "surprisingly" ubiquitous.

It reminds me of the old age story of the guy trying to remove the spec from his brother's eye while having a log in his.

"That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Bertie Party...Sorry... Fianna Fail Party.

Now we are continuing with the Nine O'Clock News..."

ascanbe

'Is there a chance the track might bend? Not on your life my Islamic/Christian friend.'

Ulysses Gaze

£40,000 is really nothing since Ahern will be able to let the Nigerians in on his foolproof system for winning lots of money on the horses.

They'll more than double their money!

Blobby George

Biggins wrote: »

"That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Bertie Party...Sorry... Fianna Fail Party.

Now we are continuing with the Nine O'Clock News..."

Have you considered a writing position with Have I Got News For You? They would love this kind of stuff. The poster made a well reasoned and sound argument and all you can manage is some hackneyed anti FF jibe. Change the record.

Biggins

Blobby George wrote: »

Have you considered a writing position with Have I Got News For You? They would love this kind of stuff. The poster made a well reasoned and sound argument and all you can manage is some hackneyed anti FF jibe. Change the record.

Welcome to After Hours, been here long?
Get over yourself.

His post was so full of crap/spin - it wasn't worth a serious reply!

Ulysses Gaze

KINGVictor wrote: »

The first paragraph of the article expressly states that " BERTIE AHERN has taken to advising Nigerians on how they can avoid the mistakes made by Ireland and learn lessons from our woes".

I really dont see anything amiss here as he is in a very good position to advise Nigeria because he was leader of Ireland during the boom era before it was all squandered.Ahern was invited to share Ireland's success story in attracting inward FDI and how a mono-economy like Nigeria could perharps replicate the Irish model in her quest for the needed diversification of the economy.

Like I said earlier, I dont see anything particularly wrong with his invitation and his statements on effective regulationof financial institutions and consistent / transparent policies are well on target. I can understand why Irish people might find it a bit ironic that Bertie is been invited to make contributions to an economic report but the consistent reference and lectures about Nigerians been corrupt and 419ers is becoming terribly boring and rehashed to be honest.

Does Nigeria have a problem with corruption? undeniably so! but events and evidence from the last few years have shown that corruption is "surprisingly" ubiquitous.

It reminds me of the old age story of the guy trying to remove the spec from his brother's eye while having a log in his.

If Ahern is willing to admit to the Nigerians that it was HIS government that was responsible for overheating the economy then fair enough.

If he goes over there with the Lehman Bros shtick he's been peddling here for the last three years and the 'It was fine when I left it' guff, then it's a waste of time and the Nigerian peoples money.

Blobby George

Biggins wrote: »

Welcome to After Hours, been here long?
Get over yourself.

His post was so full of crap/spin - it wasn't worth a serious reply!

Point out the crap/spin?

Biggins

Blobby George wrote: »

Point out the crap/spin?

No.
If you really can't see it for yourself, anyone pointing it out is wasting their time for your horse blinkers are clearly working - maybe as you wish them to be.

Carry on being one of the short-sighted.

Blobby George

Biggins wrote: »

No.
If you really can't see it for yourself, anyone pointing it out is wasting their time for your horse blinkers are clearly working - maybe as you wish them to be.

Carry on being one of the short-sighted.

A fúcking laughably predictable response. You are challenged to back up your blind hate agenda and the answer is 'No'. I wonder who is really wearing the blinkers here.

Biggins

Blobby George wrote: »

A fúcking laughably predictable response. You are challenged to back up your blind hate agenda and the answer is 'No'. I wonder who is really wearing the blinkers here.

Are you SERIOUSLY telling me you accept the crap he posted and you can't see what wrong with it?

SERIOUSLY?

Good god, some people are so blind and have such short memories!

Here is clue just to bloody begin with... Go look up who ACTUALLY loosened the banking regulations in Ireland for his mates in Drumcondra!

Then read these WELL researched books

* http://www.amazon.com/Bertie-Ahern-Drumcondra-Michael-Clifford/dp/0340919051/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1293894231&sr=8-1

* http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/shane+ross/the+bankers+28ebook29/7370046/

* http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/shane+ross/nick+webb/wasters/7892140/

...Then come back and look at kingfishers post and tell me it is absolutely not full of forgetfulness, twisted versions of events and further utter crap to begin with!

Please THEN come back when you actually have a fcukin clue what the hell your talking about!

...Fcuk me!

kincsem

That report is dated April 14. Surely it was for release on April 1?

Humans eh!

Biggins wrote: »

He got €40,000+ for the speaking to them.
He really is taking the piss - but whats new!

I hope they send him a cheque for €60,000 and ask him to send him the €20,000 overpayment back in cash.

But still, some neck on the f***er all the same.
Like a jockey's b***ix.

Sir Oxman

They'd want to check the family silver after that yoke's been there.