Bertie Ahern to advise the Nigerians

Blobby George wrote: »

Point out the crap/spin?

No.
If you really can't see it for yourself, anyone pointing it out is wasting their time for your horse blinkers are clearly working - maybe as you wish them to be.

Carry on being one of the short-sighted.

Blobby George wrote: »

A fúcking laughably predictable response. You are challenged to back up your blind hate agenda and the answer is 'No'. I wonder who is really wearing the blinkers here.

Are you SERIOUSLY telling me you accept the crap he posted and you can't see what wrong with it?

SERIOUSLY?

Good god, some people are so blind and have such short memories!

Here is clue just to bloody begin with... Go look up who ACTUALLY loosened the banking regulations in Ireland for his mates in Drumcondra!

Then read these WELL researched books

* http://www.amazon.com/Bertie-Ahern-Drumcondra-Michael-Clifford/dp/0340919051/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1293894231&sr=8-1

* http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/shane+ross/the+bankers+28ebook29/7370046/

* http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/shane+ross/nick+webb/wasters/7892140/

...Then come back and look at kingfishers post and tell me it is absolutely not full of forgetfulness, twisted versions of events and further utter crap to begin with!

Please THEN come back when you actually have a fcukin clue what the hell your talking about!

...Fcuk me!

KINGVictor wrote: »

...My post essentially addressed two issues:

Firstly, nothing wrong with Bertie advising Nigeria in relation to creating a viable mechanism for attracting inward FDI (something Ireland did excellently well) and also educating the country about the ills of lack of proper regulation of its financial institutions which Ireland failed to do and I am sure he would not absolve himself of blame in that regard...

Firstly, Bertie is TOTALLY the wrong man to be doing the educating.
To this day HE (and his cronies, ever the present FF leader) are still in denial and unwilling to accepted what is now well recorded history in regard to they actually managed to destroy the areas you refer to!
...Additionally I might add, along with their ever ongoing denial to accept recorded fact of history and recorded facts - and that includes Berties collusion in bring the country to its present state, with that very denial - and they spinning things different subsequently remember! - how in hell is Bertie going to be telling others how to avoid the problems we have had accurately and truthfully, when in fact he wouldn't even accept or tell on our own Irish soil, how HE managed to bring about same damage!
God knows what the frig he's telling them over there - clearly I suspect, a another whitewashed version of events what might also belong in his fiction book called his biography!

When Nick Leeson helped bring about the collapse of the Bearings Bank, he eventually accepted his role in it - and then went on to speak about it and how such things could be avoided in the future - because he was speaking of TRUE recorded fact and was willing to tell of his TRUE participation in the events that led to a culmination.
...Now along comes friggin' Bertie - not willing to see history as it was/is AND NOT willing to accept his role in matter.

Now with that in mind - how the fcuk can this wanker tell the people of Nigeria TRUTHFULLY (and I'd want to hear the truth if I was paying €40,000 a trip) exactly what went wrong, how to avoid it, if he STILL won't even admit to the Irish people just how much he has screwed us and how he did it! Absolved himself of blame!!! He has to start fully admitting it first for gods sake!
So what the hell version of events/explanation is he actually telling if he is going to use Ireland as an example?
It sure as hell won't be an accurate one - will it?
If by some miracle he actually telling of stuff over there that he won't admit here - and they being also core points of what caused Ireland to decline remember - I sure as hell want to go over there and see the pigs flying too over the blue moon!

THAT alone to begin with, is why he is totally the wrong person for the job - and I'm sorry you can't see that.

...Secondly, I expressed my opinion that it is becoming tiresome that some folks would relentlessy use the "Nigerians are corrupt analogy" consistently without any substance to their arguements/posts.

As a Nigerian, I categorically accept that corruption is a major issue in the country but I think it is somewhat comical to get lectures about it from folks that are been directly affected by corruption in their own country, well unless we want to be semantical ( a la )..."undocumented" Irish in the USA and Illegal immigrants in Ireland.

I dislike intensely to see all people being tarnished with the same brush so we are alike there in that matter.
We have indeed our own shower of "thugs in suits" so we cannot be the first ones to throw stones but we do for as slow as we are to do something - anything - we or at least some of us are trying and we do admit to the existence of our shower of corrupt schites too.
The vast majority of them in the last few decades being Fianna Fail based or connected to that utter rotten organisation.
You sure won't be getting lectures/lessons about corruption in Nigeria from Bertie. He still won't admit that we had even had some - or that he was part and parcel of it!