Empty septic tank

bouli73

Be grateful for views.

got a quote of €120 to empty a septic tank. Does this sound reasonable?

Thanks

whelan1

yes.... what would you expect to pay ?

dryan

jaysus, im some fool - been doing it for me neighbours for years for free -A "God bless yea" job.

MidlandsM

€50 tops is all I'd pay, and have paid only €20 in the past.

€120 is OTT.

leg wax

250 in waterford :eek:

whelan1

local lad charges €150 ... my dad used to do them 30 years ago for £20 , in thirty years i think all things considered €100 would be reasonable enough

Tora Bora

Of course the guy doing it, must have a waste disposal licence, and public liability insurance. He must bring the sugary stuff to the appropriate council waste disposal centre.:cool:

whelan1

Tora Bora wrote: »

Of course the guy doing it, must have a waste disposal licence, and public liability insurance. He must bring the sugary stuff to the appropriate council waste disposal centre.:cool:

also full tax clearance etc

Muckit

dryan wrote: »

A "God bless yea" job.

'Where do I cash that?' you should ask them:D

locky76

bouli73 wrote: »

Be grateful for views.

got a quote of €120 to empty a septic tank. Does this sound reasonable?

Thanks

Depends, €280 our way to get it done by a registered guy who brings it to the local council waste facility, i've talked to him about it and you need this sort of money to cover the council fees, insurance, handling other people's sh**e .
You can also get the local chancer to charge you €50 and spread it wherever.

what happen

bouli73 wrote: »

Be grateful for views.

got a quote of €120 to empty a septic tank. Does this sound reasonable?

Thanks

i know someone had to pay 300 euro to a registered man to empty their septic tank.

bob charles

To get the job done properly with someone with proper licence etc your looking at €200+ I should think.

MidlandsM

bob charles wrote: »

To get the job done properly with someone with proper licence etc your looking at €200+ I should think.

A guy with a tractor and tank will do the job properly too, and at a fraction of the cost.

reilig

MidlandsM wrote: »

A guy with a tractor and tank will do the job properly too, and at a fraction of the cost.

yea but without a licence, he will land spread it (untreated) and it will end up in a water course or even worse in a drinking supply - hopefully not my drinking water - better the drinking supply of the cheapo who cut corners to have his tank emptied.

MidlandsM

reilig wrote: »

yea but without a licence, he will land spread it (untreated) and it will end up in a water course or even worse in a drinking supply - hopefully not my drinking water - better the drinking supply of the cheapo who cut corners to have his tank emptied.

utter bollox, unlicenced yes, but its been spread on fields for decades, and never did any harm if spead in the right place on the right land. Simply more legislative bolloxology.

Muckit

Cattle slurry, silage effluent etc would need to be treated also before land spreading if that were the case

Soon we'I need to be like the Jarveys in Kilarney, putting bags on the cows to collect the sh*t

MidlandsM

Muckit wrote: »

Cattle slurry, silage effluent etc would need to be treated also before land spreading if that were the case

Soon we'I need to be like the Jarveys in Kilarney, putting bags on the cows to collect the sh*t

so true........and how do they treat sewage these days, add a poncey perfume to it not to annoy the townies? like FFS!

all this red tape really irks me and boils my piss (no pun intended):pac::pac::pac::pac:

reilig

MidlandsM wrote: »

utter bollox, unlicenced yes, but its been spread on fields for decades, and never did any harm if spead in the right place on the right land. Simply more legislative bolloxology.

And how do you know that the fellow that you employ to empty your tank at a cut price is spreading it on the right place and on the right land????

MidlandsM

reilig wrote: »

And how do you know that the fellow that you employ to empty your tank at a cut price is spreading it on the right place and on the right land????

same as how do you know the guy with the fancy rigid truck unit charging you €250 does'nt let it off across some hedge with a side blower at 3am down some back road......;)

what do you want???, video evidence and gps co-ordinates backed up by 3 independent shyte spreading witnesse's...........LOL

reilig

Muckit wrote: »

Cattle slurry, silage effluent etc would need to be treated also before land spreading if that were the case

Soon we'I need to be like the Jarveys in Kilarney, putting bags on the cows to collect the sh*t

You're forgetting that slurry and silage effluent are natural enough for to be broken down and absorbed by grassland and soil.

Modern septic tanks contain more than sh1t and urine (excuse my vulgarity) which make their content different to slurry and effluent and different to the content of septic tanks from years gone by.

if you think about it - all septic tanks are full with residues and chemicals used for cleaning, soaps, shampoos, bleach, washing powder etc. Soil and grass won't absorb these - especially if they are spread in high concentration levels using a tanker. A lot will make it to the water course or worse to the water table where it will contaminate all before it.

bob charles

It is taken to the treatment plant, the guy is weighed in and out and is charge by the ton for it. They treat it and eventually dry it down to form bio-solids which some then pay a €10 a ton for.

reilig

MidlandsM wrote: »

same as how do you know the guy with the fancy rigid truck unit charging you €250 does'nt let it off across some hedge with a side blower at 3am down some back road......;)

what do you want???, video evidence and gps co-ordinates backed up by 3 independent shyte spreading witnesse's...........LOL

There are loads of guys around here anyway that have licenses and who use ordinary tractors and tankers.

Its a pretty regulated process. if you hire one of them to empty your tank, you will get a receipt from the contractor for it and you will also get a receipt from the sewerage treatment plant that they use to dispose it in. You are supposed to have these receipts on hand in case of an inspection of your sectic tank by your local authority - they are part of your service contract pack.

reilig

bob charles wrote: »

It is taken to the treatment plant, the guy is weighed in and out and is charge by the ton for it. They treat it and eventually dry it down to form bio-solids which some then pay a €10 a ton for.

I believe that in some "better land" they plough it in to crops of grain and maze. Its supposed to be a good fertilizer - although I have no experience of it myself.

MidlandsM

reilig wrote: »

There are loads of guys around here anyway that have licenses and who use ordinary tractors and tankers.

Its a pretty regulated process. if you hire one of them to empty your tank, you will get a receipt from the contractor for it and you will also get a receipt from the sewerage treatment plant that they use to dispose it in. You are supposed to have these receipts on hand in case of an inspection of your sectic tank by your local authority - they are part of your service contract pack.

thanks for that background. A good reason to avoid all that hassle them, be over charged and continue to empty my own with my brothers tractor and tank and spread it on a neighbours field, who is and was in the past, happy to have it on his ground and says " you can't spead better":D

mikom

reilig wrote: »

You're forgetting that slurry and silage effluent are natural enough for to be broken down and absorbed by grassland and soil.

Modern septic tanks contain more than sh1t and urine (excuse my vulgarity) which make their content different to slurry and effluent and different to the content of septic tanks from years gone by.

if you think about it - all septic tanks are full with residues and chemicals used for cleaning, soaps, shampoos, bleach, washing powder etc. Soil and grass won't absorb these - especially if they are spread in high concentration levels using a tanker. A lot will make it to the water course or worse to the water table where it will contaminate all before it.

*Sucks household septic tank.
Blows into slatted tank
Combined small amount of septic tank waste mixes with mass of slatted tank waste, to be spread at a later stage*

reilig

Working wonders for our green image lads!!!

We should print it on our meat packaging:

"This steak is from an animal fed on grass in ireland . . . . . . . . . .

By the way, untreated human sewerage was used to give the grass its luscious green growth"


I can see Board Bia running with the slogan now!!!!!!!

vanderbadger

reilig wrote: »

Working wonders for our green image lads!!!

We should print it on our meat packaging:

"This steak is from an animal fed on grass in ireland . . . . . . . . . .

By the way, untreated human sewerage was used to give the grass its luscious green growth"


I can see Board Bia running with the slogan now!!!!!!!

true
still alot of city folk probably wouldnt fancy their nice steak as much either if they knew all the cattle ****e that was spread during the process, obviously a cowboy emptying alot of tanks and spreading without a license is unacceptable but i think for a farmer with his own gear its not an issue for him to empty his own tank or a neighbours and spread it. I think if a lot of small town sewage system were examined closely the results might be alot scarier

reilig

vanderbadger wrote: »

true
still alot of city folk probably wouldnt fancy their nice steak as much either if they knew all the cattle ****e that was spread during the process, obviously a cowboy emptying alot of tanks and spreading without a license is unacceptable but i think for a farmer with his own gear its not an issue for him to empty his own tank or a neighbours and spread it. I think if a lot of small town sewage system were examined closely the results might be alot scarier

But there is a big difference between cow dung and the waste from a septic tank. If you were caught spreading untreated sewerage on your land, your cattle or sheep would not be allowed to enter the food chain and you wouldn't be allowed to keep animals on the land for years to come.

EDIT: I should also add that its not just farming folk that read these threads and boards.ie is often quoted in the national and international media. If you're doing something illegal, this isn't the place to be talking about it.

MidlandsM

reilig wrote: »

But there is a big difference between cow dung and the waste from a septic tank. If you were caught spreading untreated sewerage on your land, your cattle or sheep would not be allowed to enter the food chain and you wouldn't be allowed to keep animals on the land for years to come.

EDIT: I should also add that its not just farming folk that read these threads and boards.ie is often quoted in the national and international media. If you're doing something illegal, this isn't the place to be talking about it.

ohhh feck, I'm bricking it here. There's someone at the door. I think its the SEWAGE POLICE! :pac:

reilig

MidlandsM wrote: »

ohhh feck, I'm bricking it here. There's someone at the door. I think its the SEWAGE POLICE! :pac:

Unfortunately your irony is lost on me

Username John

reilig wrote: »

But there is a big difference between cow dung and the waste from a septic tank. If you were caught spreading untreated sewerage on your land, your cattle or sheep would not be allowed to enter the food chain and you wouldn't be allowed to keep animals on the land for years to come.

EDIT: I should also add that its not just farming folk that read these threads and boards.ie is often quoted in the national and international media. If you're doing something illegal, this isn't the place to be talking about it.

Just built a new house, and we had to pipe all waste into the septic tank - so any chemcials used in washing machine, put down the sink, etc all end up in the septic tank.
Now - I wouldnt like to be spreading that on my land, or anyone elses. I would prefer for it to be sent for processing. And yes - would pay for it.

BUT
I know in the house at home - all the chemcials from the sink / washing machine, go into a soak-away. Not sure if this is better, but for this topic, it means they are not going into the septic tank.
The only connection to the septic tank is the toilet. I see no issues with spreading this on the land (in theory)... But I would prefer to plough it in, as opposed to leave it on the grass to be honest.
The situation has never arisen anyways, as the tank has never had to be emptied.

MidlandsM

reilig wrote: »

Unfortunately your irony is lost on me

no its not;)

What you post is all about the regulated red tape bollox filled world that exists, but back in the real world lads with a John Deere and a 1600 Ruscon Vacuum Tanker are emptying tanks for €50 and pumping it out over hedges when no one's looking, and you know what, no one really cares in rural Ireland.

William Powell

reilig wrote: »

But there is a big difference between cow dung and the waste from a septic tank. If you were caught spreading untreated sewerage on your land, your cattle or sheep would not be allowed to enter the food chain and you wouldn't be allowed to keep animals on the land for years to come.

EDIT: I should also add that its not just farming folk that read these threads and boards.ie is often quoted in the national and international media. If you're doing something illegal, this isn't the place to be talking about it.

Just for the record where would I find these regulations?

reilig

William Powell wrote: »

Just for the record where would I find these regulations?

You'll get them from the epa

www.epa.ie

reilig

MidlandsM wrote: »

no its not;)

What you post is all about the regulated red tape bollox filled world that exists, but back in the real world lads with a John Deere and a 1600 Ruscon Vacuum Tanker are emptying tanks for €50 and pumping it out over hedges when no one's looking, and you know what, no one really cares in rural Ireland.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, ireland has the greatest number of ecoli contaminated private water schemes of any country in Europe. Toxin levels in vegetables and meats from irish farms are rising steadily year on year - directly linked with the levels of cancer in humans in this country.

And the saddest thing about it is that people will go on to a public forum like this and defend sewage spreading on land - just because its expensive to properly dispose of sewerage and there is a lot of red tape around it does not make it right to land spread it (forget about the legalities of it).



The old folk used to have a saying "don't sh1t on your own doorstep".

That's exactly what you're doing when you land spread sewerage - think of your own health at least.

and you know what, no one really cares in rural Ireland

Maybe you don't care, but the majority of people do. Not about the legalities but about raw sewerage being spread around their homes and over their water schemes, private wells etc.

MidlandsM

reilig wrote: »

Maybe you don't care, but the majority of people do. Not about the legalities but about raw sewerage being spread around their homes and over their water schemes, private wells etc.

Rubbish, if they did care, they'd be a lot bigger uptake on hiring the certified crowds to empty tanks and then have certs galore to prove your septic tank waste was disposed of the legal way.

But otherwise, the majority of people (you refer to) get the lad up the road with the John Deere, that the truth of it and thats the REAL WORLD situation, as you like to refer to the REAL WORLD!;):D

LostCovey

MidlandsM wrote: »

ohhh feck, I'm bricking it here. There's someone at the door. I think its the SEWAGE POLICE! :pac:

Why don't you cut out the middleman and put it straight in the river. That's been going on for ages too so it must be OK.

LostCovey

MidlandsM wrote: »

Rubbish, if they did care, they'd be a lot bigger uptake on hiring the certified crowds to empty tanks and then have certs galore to prove your septic tank waste was disposed of the legal way.

But otherwise, the majority of people (you refer to) get the lad up the road with the John Deere, that the truth of it and thats the REAL WORLD situation, as you like to refer to the REAL WORLD!;):D

I think this forum has rules about advocating illegal actions on it Midland M.

The_Conductor

LostCovey wrote: »

I think this forum has rules about advocating illegal actions on it Midland M.

It certainly does.
Midland M- 2 week ban from Farming and Forestry for advocating illegal activities.

Regards,

SMcCarrick

wex96

Hi guys, I use to empty tanks and what your forgetting is its not just sh**e spread on the land, but (and I'm sorry) used jonnies, used tampons/towels, used ear buds and all the other "used" things we flush down the jacks. if treated properly they don't cause problems.
so next time you see a farmer spreading local shi*e on a field think what else are they spreading?????

LostCovey

MidlandsM wrote: »

no its not;)

What you post is all about the regulated red tape bollox filled world that exists, but back in the real world lads with a John Deere and a 1600 Ruscon Vacuum Tanker are emptying tanks for €50 and pumping it out over hedges when no one's looking, and you know what, no one really cares in rural Ireland.

They, I mean WE, do care, actually

William Powell

LostCovey wrote: »

They, I mean WE, do care, actually

I don't, but it seems that the talk here as wandered off from septic tanks which I'd quite happily empty out onto my veg patch to cess pits which are a different matter altogether. If you flush "used jonnies, used tampons/towels, used ear buds and all the other "used" things we flush down the jacks" and use lots of bleach and biological washing powder you don't have a septic tank you have a cess pool. Our septic tank hasn't been emptied in 10 years since it was put in because its septic, fill it with modern cleaning chemicals + non biodegradable "items" and it won't be and it would need emptying it every year.

mikom

wex96 wrote: »

Hi guys, I use to empty tanks and what your forgetting is its not just sh**e spread on the land, but (and I'm sorry) used jonnies, used tampons/towels, used ear buds and all the other "used" things we flush down the jacks.

Anyone that flushes jonnies, used tampons/towels, baby wipes, or used ear buds down our jacks will get the sole of my shoe up their hole.
Septic tanks are not made for that type of stuff.

reilig

mikom wrote: »

Anyone that flushes jonnies, used tampons/towels, baby wipes, or used ear buds down our jacks will get the sole of my shoe up their hole.
Septic tanks are not made for that type of stuff.

The problem is that if people are going around emptying septic tanks onto land at cheap prices then they don't know what's in the tank. There will always be people flushing stuff down there that won't degrade. At least proper sewerage treatment systems have ways of separating this stuff.

Conflats

An uncle of mine recently had to re-do his whole septic tank and perculation system their in feb due to at when he installed it no grease trap etc or soak away was put in and low and behold it backed up, now he got a neighbour to empty it and he spread it on his land because it started overflowing at 10 o'clock on a sat night and nobody in the phonebook would bother coming out till monday. as regards where it was spread it was put onto stubble ground and ploughed in

haybob

Lads Can I empty MY OWN sceptic tank with MY OWN tactor and MY OWN TANK and take it for treatment ??????

straight

If ye get yer septic tanks working properly they should never have to be emptied. A better solution all around surely.

2me

120 euro seems reasonable depending on how it will be disposed of.

I am looking for a c. 20 metre length of pvc hose to be attached on to slurry tanker from my septic tank. would anybody know where i might source such a hose at a reasonable price?

whelan1

2me wrote: »

120 euro seems reasonable depending on how it will be disposed of.

I am looking for a c. 20 metre length of pvc hose to be attached on to slurry tanker from my septic tank. would anybody know where i might source such a hose at a reasonable price?

what part of the country you in

2me

i am in cork county

whelan1

2me wrote: »

i am in cork county

for that reason i'm out