The death of sectarianism?

steddyeddy

After the shocking death of ronan kerr by who can only be classed as scum the whole community across the board condemmed the attack. Peter robinson stood side by side with gerry adams at the funeral. Ian paisley visiting daniel o connel's tomb. Are these times heralding the death of religious sectarianism in northern Ireland?

dj jarvis

grabs popcorn :eek:

El Weirdo

*sits back and presses f5 repeatedly...

For Forks Sake

*beer me*

Badgermonkey

Yes, can we now all just turn our attention to scorning uber-ponce Julian Simmons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktiJUUBLPo

Kidding, man's a legend.

steddyeddy

Ah here I meant the thread to be a celebration about the norths moving on from the troubles, I cant see anyone arguing that this is a bad thing here.

El Weirdo

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Yes, can we now all just turn our attention to scorning uber-ponce Julian Simmons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktiJUUBLPo

Kidding, man's a legend.

I fucking hate that twonk.

steddyeddy

El Weirdo wrote: »

I fucking hate that twonk.

your not the only one

dj jarvis

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Yes, can we now all just turn our attention to scorning uber-ponce Julian Simmons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktiJUUBLPo

Kidding, man's a legend.

true story
i always SWORE if he crossed me on the street i would run him over :eek:
then one day on merrion st , out side the dept of finance
who crossed my path - ****ing him !!!
and sorry 2 say i did not run him over with my company branded van
im so so sorry for not killing him when i had the chance
again sorry

Coriolanus

Yeah, let's see what it's like on the 4th before jumping to any rash conclusions please?

El Weirdo

dj jarvis wrote: »

true story
i always SWORE if he crossed me on the street i would run him over :eek:
then one day on merrion st , out side the dept of finance
who crossed my path - ****ing him !!!
and sorry 2 say i did not run him over with my company branded van
im so so sorry for not killing him when i had the chance
again sorry

Hang your head in shame.

dj jarvis

steddyeddy wrote: »

Ah here I meant the thread to be a celebration about the norths moving on from the troubles, I cant see anyone arguing that this is a bad thing here.

Give it time - this ones a dead cert for at least 3 of the unionist mafia to show up double quick time , anyone wanna guess by what post number it starts ?

For Forks Sake

dj jarvis wrote: »

true story
i always SWORE if he crossed me on the street i would run him over :eek:
then one day on merrion st , out side the dept of finance
who crossed my path - ****ing him !!!
and sorry 2 say i did not run him over with my company branded van
im so so sorry for not killing him when i had the chance
again sorry

Go stand in the corner and reflect upon your (in)actions

Cakes.

dj jarvis wrote: »

Give it time - this ones a dead cert for at least 3 of the unionist mafia to show up double quick time , anyone wanna guess by what post number it starts ?

19

For Forks Sake

dj jarvis wrote: »

Give it time - this ones a dead cert for at least 3 of the unionist mafia to show up double quick time , anyone wanna guess by what post number it starts ?

25. Tops.

policarp

Did anyone hear Paddy O'Gorman on the radio today, reporting a story from Derry, sectarianism is not dead yet...

steddyeddy

Nevore wrote: »

Yeah, let's see what it's like on the 4th before jumping to any rash conclusions please?

I agree on that point, there is major progress to be made but not in this lifetime did I think I would see ian paisley at daniel o connel's tomb!

QuinnC88

Sectarianism will never die out in this country!

Coriolanus

We have unionists on boards? Really? I've never seen them, least not in ah.

steddyeddy

policarp wrote: »

Did anyone hear Paddy O'Gorman on the radio today, reporting a story from Derry, sectarianism is not dead yet...

No what was said? I dont think sectarianism is dead but im saying there has been progress.

steddyeddy

QuinnC88 wrote: »

Sectarianism will never die out in this country!

Well sectarianism is far far less prevalent in this day in age in the southern part of the country.

For Forks Sake

Nevore wrote: »

We have unionists on boards? Really? I've never seen them, least not in ah.

Post 19 !! Burn Him !!

steddyeddy

Nevore wrote: »

We have unionists on boards? Really? I've never seen them, least not in ah.

We certainly have loyalists.

dj jarvis

Nevore wrote: »

We have unionists on boards? Really? I've never seen them, least not in ah.

:eek: and ill say that again :eek:

Badgermonkey

We also have the provisional wing of Boards.ie.

The 'Real' or 'Continuity' Boards.ie

Coriolanus

You'll have to point them out to me if they do turn up. Apparently I've had blinkers on.

Zebra3

steddyeddy wrote: »

Are these times heralding the death of religious sectarianism in northern Ireland?

You're obviously blissfully unaware of the walls dividing Belfast.




Or trolling.

dj jarvis

Nevore wrote: »

You'll have to point them out to me if they do turn up. Apparently I've had blinkers on.

oh dont worry , ya cant miss them
mind you one of them made a comment that stopped me in my tracks ,
so the original question from the OP might have legs after all :eek:

steddyeddy

Zebra3 wrote: »

You're obviously blissfully unaware of the walls dividing Belfast.




Or trolling.

Im certainly not trolling and I know belfast divisions still exist but these people are a dying breed hopefully relicts like the orange order and the walls dividing belfast will go the way of the dodo.

starbelgrade

If all the secretanarianists die out... then who's gonna answer the phones?

policarp

steddyeddy wrote: »

No what was said? I dont think sectarianism is dead but im saying there has been progress.

Paddy and his dog were in Derry and he tried to talk to both sides of the sectarian divide. Both sides were reluctant to talk to him.
This was last weekend...

steddyeddy

policarp wrote: »

Paddy and his dog were in Derry and he tried to talk to both sides of the sectarian divide. Both sides were reluctant to talk to him.
This was last weekend...

Jesus if gerry adams and ian paisley can shake hands these cretins can move on

Firetrap

policarp wrote: »

Paddy and his dog were in Derry and he tried to talk to both sides of the sectarian divide. Both sides were reluctant to talk to him.
This was last weekend...

If Paddy O'Gorman tried to talk to me, I'd run a mile :eek:

policarp

steddyeddy wrote: »

Jesus if gerry adams and ian paisley can shake hands these cretins can move on

And Robinson, it was'nt my radio programme.
Just a listener...

Zebra3

steddyeddy wrote: »

Im certainly not trolling and I know belfast divisions still exist but these people are a dying breed hopefully relicts like the orange order and the walls dividing belfast will go the way of the dodo.

Are you saying all those involved in rioting surrounding OO marches and Celtic-Rangers games are old people? :D:D

A huge amount of people in the north basically live their lives in a self-chosen form of apartheid.

Plenty of nordies are proud to sind that they are "up to their necks in fenian blood".

The divide is the world's longest conflict and far from finished.

pragmatic1

QuinnC88 wrote: »

Sectarianism will never die out in this country!

It will. Its less acceptable with each passing year.

southsiderosie

steddyeddy wrote: »

Im certainly not trolling and I know belfast divisions still exist but these people are a dying breed hopefully relicts like the orange order and the walls dividing belfast will go the way of the dodo.

There are more walls in Belfast today that there were in 1998 when the GFA was signed.

pragmatic1

southsiderosie wrote: »

There are more walls in Belfast today that there were in 1998 when the GFA was signed.

Yeah but how many murders are there compared to then. The younger generation care less and less about that stuff. Any riots are mainly just kids having the craic.

civis_liberalis

starbelgrade wrote: »

If all the secretanarianists die out... then who's gonna answer the phones?

Say that five times fast... or even twice for that matter!

K-9

southsiderosie wrote: »

There are more walls in Belfast today that there were in 1998 when the GFA was signed.

That's a rather glass half empty outlook.

southsiderosie

K-9 wrote: »

That's a rather glass half empty outlook.

Well walls are clearly not 'going the way of the dodo', and Belfast is still an extremely segregated city. I'm not saying there hasn't been incredible progress in terms of ending violence, but there is still very limited social interaction and cross-community cohesion, and social trust is still very low.

Just because sectarianism today doesn't result in murder shouldn't be taken to mean that it doesn't have a deep hold on people's mentalities. There are still a lot of physical and mental walls that need to come down.

KeithAFC

I doubt it. Not with the RIRA running around trying to lure Protestants out.

El Weirdo

tbh.

K-9

southsiderosie wrote: »

Well walls are clearly not 'going the way of the dodo', and Belfast is still an extremely segregated city. I'm not saying there hasn't been incredible progress in terms of ending violence, but there is still very limited social interaction and cross-community cohesion, and social trust is still very low.

Just because sectarianism today doesn't result in murder shouldn't be taken to mean that it doesn't have a deep hold on people's mentalities. There are still a lot of physical and mental walls that need to come down.

It takes time and loads of it, it'll probably always be there to some extent, unless we bring in thought police, but there have been big improvements. Marching season and the attitudes on both extremes don't help.

mike65

Best to wait about 40 generations, then you'll see some change.

As for that gimp Julian, ditching UPC and going FTA was worth it to be rid of him alone!

Wolfe Tone

There are more peace walls put up since the GFA than ever before, the politicians like to play happy families.

KeithAFC

They will come down sooner or later anyway.

Yitzhak Rabin

Not the end.... but its certainly on the way out.

I mean the queen is visiting Croke park next month for feck sake, who'd thought that could happen 30 years ago?

steddyeddy

KeithAFC wrote: »

I doubt it. Not with the RIRA running around trying to lure Protestants out.

keith their killing catholics and protestents there is no difference people are being killed thats it.

orourkeda

Sectarianism, bigotry and all other form of prejudice will never die.

Life experience dictates that most people , if not everyone, will develop a chip on their shoulder and some stage in their lives.

However, very few people will ever take it to the extreme that we have seen in the North recently.

Penfailed

KeithAFC wrote: »

Not with the RIRA running around trying to lure Protestants out.

I'm not sure what you mean by this? Lure them out where?