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Round 02: Malaysian Grand Prix

  • 06-04-2011 9:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭


    The Formula 1 circus moves onto Asia with Malaysia playing host to the second round of the 2011 season.
    The Sepang Circuit
    sepang.jpg
    Sepang hosted the inaugural Malaysian Grand Prix in 1999 with Eddie Irvine taking the victory, but only after Ferrari successfully appealed their expulsion from the race following post race scrutineering failures. Their failure was blamed, just like Sauber’s in Melbourne, on manufacturing faults and not by any bid for an unfair advantage. In ‘99 the overturned disqualification kept Irvine in the hunt for the title but for Sauber their decision not to appeal their Australian disqualification leaves the team searching for their first points of the season this weekend.

    The Malaysian Circuit is one of contrasts with two long high speed straights leading into slow second gear hairpins which are sure to see the vast majority of overtaking attempts. The middle sector of the lap is a mix of fast corners, turns 5-8, and another slow hairpin that can present overtaking opportunities, if you have a willing partner. The final sector is dominated by the challenging complex from turn 12 that is the most exciting part of the lap for drivers where they thread the eye of a needle flat out in sixth gear before finding their braking point for the next corner which leads onto the long back straight.

    With such a varied track layout the setup of the car is a compromise. Do you look for ultimate top speed at the expense of grip in the infield or vice versa? Obviously to set your car up for either extreme would be courting disaster so teams look to find a happy medium in terms of speed and grip. There is however one key point to take from this balance, the car with the fastest top speed has invariably finished inside the top five at this circuit.

    The heat and humidity makes this a challenging environment for drivers and team members and relative to other venues the circuit has gained a reputation as a tough race to finish. In the 12 previous races there has been a finishing rate of less than 70% with 17 taking the flag last season.

    What are the main talking points before this race?


    The Australian Grand Prix failed to offer much of the excitement that many anticipated and as a result the new regulations have come under fire from certain quarters. “Where was the overtaking” was a common refrain but Melbourne did provide a lot of positives to take for the rest of the season and showed that this weekend’s Grand Prix could be one to savour.

    The DRS did not lead to as many overtaking moves in Melbourne as anticipated, just three, but it should be much more effective at Sepang with the long front straight leading into the tight opening hairpin giving drivers a great opportunity to attempt an overtaking move.

    Even though there little DRS assisted overtaking in the opening race there was actually quite a bit of overtaking in the midfield and lower reaches which is very encouraging. In addition the early battle between Jenson Button and Felipe Massa in Melbourne showed us that while overtaking is still difficult it is now possible to battle with the car in front and use the slipstream to get close enough race wheel to wheel with a rival.

    The main talking point throughout the winter was that the Pirelli tyres were not durable and that we could see races with four or five stops. The opening race was anti-climatic in terms of such an event but this race will give us a much better indication as to whether the Australian tyre pattern is the norm or the exception. Personally I see little chance of the tyres performing similarly in Malaysia and foresee much more problems with three stops likely to be the strategy of leading drivers.

    As with any opening race the performances of individual teams are analysed afterwards. It was clear Ferrari and Mercedes both underperformed to preseason expectations in Melbourne while Sauber impressed everyone with both drivers having strong races. It can be misleading to read too much into one race and as a result Malaysia will help give a much better indication as to what to expect from Formula 1 in 2011. Whether you are looking at the performance of teams or the effect of the DRS and Pirelli tyres this race will be instrumental in painting a much fuller picture of what the new season will be.

    What to expect in Sepang


    Red Bull clearly had the fastest car over a single lap in Australia but if the team continues to be unable to utilise their KERS package it could be quite costly this weekend. Rival teams would have a great advantage on the long run down to turn one. We saw in Australia that the KERS equipped McLaren of Lewis Hamilton was able to get past Mark Webber once the “boost” was used. As a result it has to be expected that the team will use the system this weekend.

    The performance of McLaren in Melbourne was one of the biggest surprises of the opening weekend. The team came to Australia after a troubling winter but performed much better than expected with a heavily revised car. Gone was the complicated exhaust system and in its place was a conventional system. The change transformed a slow, unreliable car into one that finished second in the race. The team’s knowledge on the new car is still quite limited but their potential for improvement is huge at this early stage of the season.

    Ferrari also has considerable room for improvement. It is perfectly clear that their Australian offering is not a representative indication of where the team is in terms of performance. Their car was close to matching Red Bull in testing so should be given the benefit of the doubt. Malaysia has been a happy hunting ground for the team in the past with Michael Schumacher and Eddie Irvine claiming four wins in the early races held at the circuit but they have struggled in recent years with Felipe Massa’s 2008 and 2007 pole positions failing to net more than a fifth place finish.

    The team know that they need to improve with Massa commenting on the situation after Australia:

    "No one at Ferrari was satisfied with our overall performance, nor the final result of the Australian Grand Prix and much work has gone into understanding why that race did not live up to our expectations and then to plan how to move forward this weekend."

    As ever the battle at the front will revolve around these teams but the performance of Renault, Mercedes and Williams will also be interesting. At Renault the main question will be can Vitaly Petrov carry forward the momentum of his maiden podium and will Nick Heidfeld bounce back from his nightmare weekend in Melbourne.

    Mercedes lacked pace in the opening race but their final testing performance at Barcelona should not be forgotten. This race will tell us whether Michael Schumacher and Nico Rosberg can battle at the front for victories as their preseason expectations stated, or whether another year in the doldrums awaits the silver cars.

    In the midst of a ridiculously untidy race from Ruben Barrichello which culminated in him taking out Rosberg in Melbourne the new Williams actually showed promising speed. With a radical rear end the team is clearly pushing the envelope in terms of design; all that remains is for them to show what their car is capable of. Barrichello will be eager to move on from his opening race mistakes and he could be one to watch this weekend.

    Strategy for the Malaysian Grand Prix


    Sebastian Vettel was victorious in Australia while availing of three stops but it seems unlikely that he will be able to make only two visits to the pits this weekend. The conditions are sure to be a much greater test of the Pirelli tyres and as a result a three stop strategy should be expected for the vast majority of runners.

    Pitstops should take approximately 22s and with fresher rubber likely to offer a marked improvement on the used rubber, to a much greater degree than Australia, we could see drivers availing of an extra stop in a bid to get ahead of rivals forced to care for their tyres.

    A four stop race would be an exceptionally risky proposition but with the new tyres in their infancy and the DRS still to prove its worth risky calls could become the order of the day in the early days of 2011.

    The past 12 races in Malaysia have been won by an average of 17 seconds, an average of 0.3s per lap, so the fastest cars on track have had a tendency to lead from the front and open a comfortable gap. The new regulations could force a change in this and with the winner having only started off the front row twice, Ralf Schumacher from fourth on the grid and Kimi Raikkonen from seventh, it is clear just how important qualifying is at Sepang.

    It will be interesting to see what strategy teams will utilise with the DRS set to be much more effective this weekend the Red Bull’s could be challenged, and overtaken, in the early stages and without KERS in their car they might find it difficult to get back past on the track. Will the team employ a daring pit strategy to overcome this? It’s possible that we could see Vettel and Mark Webber make an additional pitstop and use the extra performance and grip from the newer tyres to make their way through the field.

    Weather for this weekend


    As ever tropical storms are to be expected this weekend. Temperatures in the low to mid 30s are expected with the traditional high humidity set to make conditions exceptionally difficult for all concerned. It is almost certain that rain will fall at some stage of the weekend with the cars on track; the big question is whether it will be in qualifying or the race.

    Last season a shower in qualifying left McLaren and Ferrari eliminated from qualifying after the opening minutes (Jenson Button spun at the start of Q2) with the teams expecting it to stay dry they waited in their garages for perfect track conditions which never came. It was only when it was too late that they scrambled onto the track and found it impossible to set a representative lap time. There is little to take for granted this weekend other than if there is any doubt as to what the weather will do in qualifying that both teams will have their drivers on track.

    Fernando Alonso put it best when the double world champion said:

    "The fact that the weather can change so quickly here makes the preparation work for the various phases of work on track more stressful," he said.

    "Suddenly it can go from sunshine to a short sharp shower and you need to be prepared for every eventuality. It's not just a problem for us drivers, as its affects the whole team: in some cases you need to be ready with a plan B or C, or even maybe a D for all the various scenarios."

    Key points on Sepang
    Total pitstop time-22s
    Average margin of victory-17s
    Average Finishing %-69%
    Average starting position of winner-2nd

    BBC Schedule
    Friday 8 April
    Practice one - 0300-0430 Red Button
    Practice two - 0700-0830 Red Button
    Saturday 9 April
    Practice three - 0600-0700 Red Button
    Qualifying - 0900-1000-BBC 1
    Sunday 10 April
    Race - 0900-BBC1


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    About time.

    Fancy the tyres won't be too awful, 3 stops will be very comfortable given how the hards lasted about 2/3 distance last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Would I be correct in saying that the DRS can only be used on the start/finish straight again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    amacachi wrote: »
    Fancy the tyres won't be too awful, 3 stops will be very comfortable given how the hards lasted about 2/3 distance last year.

    That's the great thing about these opening races there's no way of knowing how they'll react. Malaysia could be quite tricky for the tyres, high temperatures and a constantly "green" track surface could make this one of the most difficult races of the year for tyre management


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Sauber had the highest top speed at Melbourne I think (usually a good sign for finishing well in Sepang, as you point out frostie). If their wing is revised to comply with the regs will they lose performance?

    Who had second highest top speed at Melbourne?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Top Dog wrote: »
    Would I be correct in saying that the DRS can only be used on the start/finish straight again?

    Initially there seemed be some debate which straight it would be on, but it's been confirmed to be on the pit straight, pic from here:

    drs_malaysia_2011-470x542.gif


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Vegeta wrote: »
    Sauber had the highest top speed at Melbourne I think (usually a good sign for finishing well in Sepang, as you point out frostie). If their wing is revised to comply with the regs will they lose performance?

    Who had second highest top speed at Melbourne?

    Is top speed good in Malaysia though? I thought the medium-high parts of the track were more important. I'm VERY open to correction though. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    amacachi wrote: »
    Is top speed good in Malaysia though? I thought the medium-high parts of the track were more important. I'm VERY open to correction though. :pac:

    You're right it's not the sole key factor to this circuit at all. Red Bull dominance there last year would highlight that but Sauber had highest top speed in Melbourne and according to frostie
    frostie500 wrote: »
    the car with the fastest top speed has invariably finished inside the top five at this circuit.

    Just wondering about Sauber's potential here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Top Dog wrote: »
    Would I be correct in saying that the DRS can only be used on the start/finish straight again?

    Correct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    I wonder will DRS get to be used at all in the race as there is an 80% chance of rain during the actual race.

    For qualifying there is a 40% chance of rain.

    When it rains in Malaysia it rains - I really hope we dont get another race that doesnt go the distance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Ficus wrote: »
    Sepang is one of those circuits like Shanghai were a combination of speed and a good aero package are required due to the high lateral loadings and long straights. There is no hiding a loss of one of the other unless there is rain, in which case all this goes out the window!
    Sauber have showed they have both. The tyre advantage they had in melbourne should see them well due to the huge wear rate and high temperatures.
    And of course they have the "Kobayashi" factor. :D

    If they had the best top speed and were kind to their tyres and were still well off the top pace then surely their aero at some speed was extremely poor?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Ficus wrote: »
    It was their average race pace that wasnt great but their fastest lap times in the race were pretty good and showed potential.
    Vettels fastest lap was a 1.29.844
    Perez fastest lap was a 1.29.962
    Kobayashi fastest lap was a 1.30.384

    True enough but I have more than a slight feeling that Vettel could've found at least a couple of seconds more than that if wanted/needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Ficus wrote: »
    Wouldnt be too sure of that, he prides himself in getting fastest laps, and that was one way Webber got up his nose last year, especially in Suzuka.

    But over 6 seconds off the pole time? Find it hard to swallow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Ficus wrote: »
    It was their average race pace that wasnt great but their fastest lap times in the race were pretty good and showed potential.
    Vettels fastest lap was a 1.29.844
    Perez fastest lap was a 1.29.962
    Kobayashi fastest lap was a 1.30.384

    I have done a small E/W on both the Sauber Drivers

    100/1 Kobayashi
    200/1 Perez


    I Know its unlikely but throw Rain/Tyres/Drs/Insanity at the first corner


    You never know:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Warm-up so far would hint not too much has changed since the last race.

    Also I dreamt last night that it'll rain in qualifying and one of the Saubers wont make it through Q1. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    I know practice is for set up and all that but the Saubers looked off the pace this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Mclaren are keeping pace with the red bulls which is good to see. Everyone else are a good bit off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Ficus wrote: »
    If that actually happens, i will be banning you for witchcraft!

    I wouldn't be too shocked if I'm dreaming while the actual qualifying is on, shall have to use my mind powers then. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I stupidly thought they'd be having the race a little earlier this year in case the weather was an issue. Also I was planning to stay up for the race, gonna have to hit the bed then get up now. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,990 ✭✭✭Trampas


    anyone else picture and sound out of sync?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    Trampas wrote: »
    anyone else picture and sound out of sync?

    it's diabolical, come on bbc wake up and sort it..

    on a funnier note, its maybe the feed for english speaking japanese!:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    Liuzzi straight out and sets his fastest time of the weekend, I think that low 43 or high 42s will be enough for HRT to get inside 107%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    No rain? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Is anyone using the F1 2011 Live Timing App on the iPhone? €25.99 is a bit steep but the 3D live track map looks mightily impressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Quick Nick's Renault nosecone looked beautiful on that in-car lap... shame about the assorted sponsor logos spoiling the JPS effect from the side...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    The onboard with Schumacher looks and sounds awful yet both Mercs are going fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Had the two Williams put in a decent lap at the end Webber was gone. Lucky boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Maldonado out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    f***in Lotus whats up there now??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    I wonder has Seb done something bold to Mark's auto? :-/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    EJ! WTF?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    amacachi wrote: »
    The onboard with Schumacher looks and sounds awful yet both Mercs are going fast.

    Yeah it was one of those completely "on the edge laps" where you were constantly thinking Schumi was going to run slightly wide and lose the lap. Interesting to see that he was only slightly slower than the Ferrari's and Lewis who were also running on the option tyre.

    Both Red Bull drivers used the prime tyres and its clear that there is quite a difference between the two tyres, at least one second and maybe even 1.5s so that would be enough to put you under pressure. Poor performance from Webber though and he'll be under a lot of pressure in Q2 to perform better.

    Good performance from both HRTs to easily make it through


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    frostie500 wrote: »
    Yeah it was one of those completely "on the edge laps" where you were constantly thinking Schumi was going to run slightly wide and lose the lap. Interesting to see that he was only slightly slower than the Ferrari's and Lewis who were also running on the option tyre.

    Both Red Bull drivers used the prime tyres and its clear that there is quite a difference between the two tyres, at least one second and maybe even 1.5s so that would be enough to put you under pressure. Poor performance from Webber though and he'll be under a lot of pressure in Q2 to perform better.

    Good performance from both HRTs to easily make it through

    It was more like a HRT lap. :pac: Every corner seemed to involve lifts at odd times and downchanges when the revs kept changing. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    The onscreen graphics need to be shifted left and off the left front tyre on the inobard shots!
    :-/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    David made a point.. related to extreme aerodynamics nowadays.. in Malaysia is high humidity which reduces oxygen in the air thus less downforce :eek:

    we want less spoilers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Go on the Button!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭delta720


    Massive lap from Button


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Schumi is still sliding quite a lot...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    No need for Schumi to go out again, waste of tyres.
    OK maybe he might want to go out to be safe. :pac: Didn't realise the Renaults and Hamilton were two of those behind him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Schumi out. :-/ Traffic on his last hot lap?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭delta720


    amacachi wrote: »
    No need for Schumi to go out again, waste of tyres.

    Good thing your not a race engineer! :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    delta720 wrote: »
    Good thing your not a race engineer! :P

    Only using part of a quote, you could be a Garda. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭delta720


    amacachi wrote: »
    Only using part of a quote, you could be a Garda. ;)

    HAHA! I try!

    Petrov ahead of Heidfeld again in first two sessions, this year has got to be Nicks last ever chance I had expected a lot more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    "Schumi never had another such a competitive team mate as Nico is.. nobody was that much faster than him.." Scumi is not comfortable, its not only about car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Still early with Heidfeld

    I have a feeling he will come good in a few races


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    delta720 wrote: »
    HAHA! I try!

    Petrov ahead of Heidfeld again in first two sessions, this year has got to be Nicks last ever chance I had expected a lot more.

    I was right about it being a waste of tyres though. :pac:

    It's just odd with Nick, he kept up-ish with Kubica most of the time through the BMW days and with Kimi back in Sauber yet he's getting his ass handed to him by Petrov. Strange altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    Vettel really... nice one again. Just hatin finger of his grr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Dear Bernie,

    When the end of Q3 is as exciting as that, please try and get the TV directors to switch to split screen! Would have loved onboard from Vettel, Hamilton, Webber and Button at the same time for the last 30 seconds!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Damn close between the RBs and McLarens, have to fancy the McLarens in the race tomorrow but it's going to come down to pitstops big-time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    Just after seeing that on Schumi's last lap of Q2 his DRS stuck in the open position which would explain things for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭wobbles


    Has anyone noticed when vettel wins/gets pole, his speech back over the radio seems so forced, as if he has it prepared beforehand.


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