Obama and The Queen visiting Ireland

volrex

Any ideas on why they are visiting within such a close time frame??

Monty Burnz

Gaps in their schedules? I'd imagine that - seeing as they are basically doing us a favour (particularly Obama) - that we would be expected to suit them rather than the other way around.

caseyann

Dont forget the Dali lama and the Pope aswell. Very odd.

Monty Burnz

caseyann wrote: »

Dont forget the Dali lama and the Pope aswell. Very odd.

In the same week? Holy crap.

iPlop

The pope in 2012 and the dali lama in April

uprising2

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Gaps in their schedules? I'd imagine that - seeing as they are basically doing us a favour (particularly Obama) - that we would be expected to suit them rather than the other way around.

How are they doing us a favour?

2 commanders of the most aggressive war monger nations of present, why shouldn't they both be arrested for murder when they step foot off the plane?

If Charles Manson gets parole next year we can put on a show for him too if he does us a favour and visit's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq2dBBajD7g

EDIT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY6ukaeEcIY

Monty Burnz

uprising2 wrote: »

How are they doing us a favour?

2 commanders of the most aggressive war monger nations of present, why shouldn't they both be arrested for murder when they step foot off the plane?

Big boost for tourism, loads of pictures of lovely Ireland being beamed all over the world. Nothing to do with their personalities.

I don't think the queen is a warmonger though to be honest - she's as much a symbol as our president is. God knows when a royal in the UK actually made a decision on anything, but I don't think it would have happened in the last 100 years. Tony Blair, on the other hand...:mad:

I note that Eirigí couldn't put together a propaganda video without basic grammar errors. Doesn't reflect well on them (aside from the nonsense whataboutery in the videos).

squod

I'll be expecting bad news shortly after they leave .

espinolman

Just the other day it was reported in a newspaper that an american company is building bunkers in Ireland , a friend told me about it , but i havent seen it , but he told me they are building 2012 bunkers and selling space in them , because they reckon Ireland is a good place for them , somewhere around wicklow they are doing them , he told me .
So maybe that has something to do with why they are visiting .:rolleyes:

Monty Burnz

espinolman wrote: »

Just the other day it was reported in a newspaper that an american company is building bunkers in Ireland , a friend told me about it , but i havent seen it , but he told me they are building 2012 bunkers and selling space in them , because they reckon Ireland is a good place for them , somewhere around wicklow they are doing them , he told me .
So maybe that has something to do with why they are visiting .:rolleyes:

I know I'm wasting my time here :rolleyes: but do you have any verifiable source for that? Or anything at all? I think you need to have a word with your friends

uprising2

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I know I'm wasting my time here :rolleyes: but do you have any verifiable source for that? Or anything at all? I think you need to have a word with your friends

Look at these features of the 2012 bunker system from Hardened Structures an American company...

3-Bars blast overpressure of 45 psi
Force 10 earthquakes in succession
450 mph winds
Extreme gamma & neutron attenuation from a 100 megaton air burst detonated 20 miles away
Solar flares with 1,000,000 volt EMP
Flooding (complete submersion for 100 hours)
Extreme external fires at 1250 F for 10 days
Magnetic pole shift
Radiological, chemical and biological weapons
Forced entry and armed assaults
12' of snow and 10' of rain
500 lb. hail stones or flying debris at a speed of 100 mph

http://www.hardenedstructures.eu/2012-shelter-systems.html

http://www.hardenedstructures.com/

old hippy

Obviously they've heard of happy hour at Sinnott's.

Or am I years out of date?

Monty Burnz

uprising2 wrote: »

Look at these features of the 2012 bunker system from Hardened Structures an American company...

Well I'm not questioning whether bunkers exist at all, I'm questioning whether there's any support for Espinolaman's friend's claims.

Nice bunkers though, huh?

caseyann

uprising2 wrote: »

Look at these features of the 2012 bunker system from Hardened Structures an American company...

3-Bars blast overpressure of 45 psi
Force 10 earthquakes in succession
450 mph winds
Extreme gamma & neutron attenuation from a 100 megaton air burst detonated 20 miles away
Solar flares with 1,000,000 volt EMP
Flooding (complete submersion for 100 hours)
Extreme external fires at 1250 F for 10 days
Magnetic pole shift
Radiological, chemical and biological weapons
Forced entry and armed assaults
12' of snow and 10' of rain
500 lb. hail stones or flying debris at a speed of 100 mph

http://www.hardenedstructures.eu/2012-shelter-systems.html

http://www.hardenedstructures.com/

They look oddly like the same ones in Norway.http://plantosurvive2012.com/norway-bunker-2012-doomsday/

Monty Burnz

caseyann wrote: »

They look oddly like the same ones in Norway.http://plantosurvive2012.com/norway-bunker-2012-doomsday/

That's a seed bank though, rather than a bunker for humans. I think they have one in the UK, and I imagine there is at least one in the US and surely elsewhere too.

We seem to have gotten a bit side-tracked from the queen and Barry O'Bama somehow :pac:

phosphate

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I know I'm wasting my time here :rolleyes: but do you have any verifiable source for that? Or anything at all? I think you need to have a word with your friends

I can confirm these bunkers exist but due to an NDA cannot disclose what they are for.

Monty Burnz

phosphate wrote: »

I can confirm these bunkers exist but due to an NDA cannot disclose what they are for.

Um...I'm not sure if you're messing, but I don't think we can take that as any sort of proof. No offence intended...

iPlop

espinolman wrote: »

Just the other day it was reported in a newspaper that an american company is building bunkers in Ireland , a friend told me about it , but i havent seen it , but he told me they are building 2012 bunkers and selling space in them , because they reckon Ireland is a good place for them , somewhere around wicklow they are doing them , he told me .
So maybe that has something to do with why they are visiting .:rolleyes:

I live in Wicklow haven't seen anything or heard anything unusual.People talk in these parts.

phosphate

The Incredible Fridge wrote: »

I live in Wicklow haven't seen anything or heard anything unusual.People talk in these parts.

Strangely enough, my connection with this is working with a quarry company who were requested to provide caterpillar dump trucks to remove the rock bored out from wicklow mountains.

inside will be a nuclear reactor for power.

clever_name

phosphate wrote: »

Strangely enough, my connection with this is working with a quarry company who were requested to provide caterpillar dump trucks to remove the rock bored out from wicklow mountains.

inside will be a nuclear reactor for power.

Yes that is true, I can not explain how I know, but do you know what the nuclear reactor will power?

One word - batcave.

Monty Burnz

phosphate wrote: »

Strangely enough, my connection with this is working with a quarry company who were requested to provide caterpillar dump trucks to remove the rock bored out from wicklow mountains.

inside will be a nuclear reactor for power.

Well, there goes the NDA. Perhaps you can give us the details now, or link to something a bit more solid than 'trust me'

Denerick

I have evidence here that suggests the Queen will be smuggling a massive nuclear payload underneath her royal hat. Obama is conniving with her, as Lizzy is eager to get Ireland back and Obama is of course wholley subservient to the freemasons, of whom the Queen of England is secretly leader of.

Shortly after they leave, the Queen's Nuclear payload will destroy an ancient underground fortress under Kilkenny city. This will release the lizard people trapped there since the Titans fought the Gods in the births of the Greek world.

As these lizard people emerges, their brethern across the planet, including but not limited to Barack Obama, Queen Lizzy, Silvio Berlusconi, Raul Castro, Vladimir Putin, Hosni Mubarak etc. will reveal themselves to the cowed masses.

All hell will break loose. Brother will turn against brother, son against son, as we prepare ourselves for the apocolypse. A great battle will be fought in Israel - the final battle, if you like. God will emerge above the sky and do war with Satan, his accursed fallen angle. There, high above the clouds they will fight and fight and fight for 4,000 years. Throughout mankind will dwell in misery. All will be lost.

We must not allow The Queen and the President to visit Ireland. At all costs.

phosphate

Denerick, I happen to study history of UK and Ireland so I know there's no reason for the Queen of our frenemy nation to visit us except to make an important announcement to the country and it will most likely be related to 2012 when WW3 will break out and the elite will be taken to these bunkers for safety.

As you know, Ireland does not have the technology or expertise in nuclear energy, so the queen visiting is a symbolic gesture of greater co-operation between the 2 islands in preparation of any potential armageddon.

I have detailed files which unfortunately cannot share due to NDA with my employer.

phosphate

phosphate wrote: »

I have detailed files which unfortunately cannot share due to NDA with my employer.

Well if this was true, which is very unlikely, it would kinda show that you think that your job is far more important than actually warning people about an impending Armageddon.

Penn

Denerick banned for 10 days for trolling.

phosphate

King Mob wrote: »

Well if this was true, which is very unlikely, it would kinda show that you think that your job is far more important than actually warning people about an impending Armageddon.

Part of my NDA is that I would be saved.
I'd rather not jeopardise my leverage over the elite.

I would be prepared to sell them to you King Mob, providing you sign NDA.

phosphate

phosphate wrote: »

Part of my NDA is that I would be saved.
I'd rather not jeopardise my leverage over the elite.

I would be prepared to sell them to you King Mob, providing you sign NDA.

Awesome. You PM them right along.

Monty Burnz

King Mob wrote: »

Awesome. You PM them right along.

Please send the NDA to me too. Will it be ok to fax it to you? I believe that faxes of signed documents have legal standing. Don't think PDFs do.

phosphate

I PM KM but no response yet.

And a solicitor would be required MB to witness signature, faxes are unacceptable.

Though aren't you worried that your evil masters might track you down?

phosphate

they are not evil but i am a man of honour and integrity, just protecting my investment.

clever_name

phosphate wrote: »

Part of my NDA is that I would be saved.
I'd rather not jeopardise my leverage over the elite.

I would be prepared to sell them to you King Mob, providing you sign NDA.

How will you be saved?

Your not going to be in the bunker, are the elite giving you a super strong duvet?

From the thread The world will end in 2012. Apparantly


Question - Where will you be?

phosphate wrote: »

At home in bed, sleeping through it..

What tog duvet is needed to withstand a global apocalypse?

Dave!

Great thread

phosphate

I've received an infraction during the correspondence with King Mob about 4 site reports which he has agreed have some credibility.

In a completely unrelated matter of course, but i feel there should be some retraction until people like yourself clever_name can appreciate the importance of 2012.

clever_name

phosphate wrote: »

I've received an infraction during the correspondence with King Mob about 4 site reports which he has agreed have some credibility.

In a completely unrelated matter of course, but i feel there should be some retraction until people like yourself clever_name can appreciate the importance of 2012.

Please tell us more about the bunker if you can, I am interested to know what is so important about 2012 -well not so important that you don't mind sleeping through any problems.:)

phosphate

the introduction of one site survey report was

This report has been prepared for X by X Architects, with input from X,
Property Consultants, and outlines the results and recommendations of a
Comparative Study carried out of a number of sites considered for the <omitted text>.

The purpose of the study was to review options for strategic future development of the X including options to intensify development on the site and acquire additional lands for further development. This Executive Summary document is to be read in conjunction with
the report prepared by X included in Appendix A of the report.

King Mob replied: "...you're telling the truth"

clever_name

phosphate wrote: »

King Mob replied: "...you're telling the truth"

Well lets wait for king Mob to confirm that, no offense.

And you have still not addressed the issue of stating that you will be at home in bed when the bad stuff happens in 2012, things cant be too bad if you intend to sleep through them.

clever_name

clever_name wrote: »

Well lets wait for king Mob to confirm that, no offense.

And you have still not addressed the issue of stating that you will be at home in bed when the bad stuff happens in 2012, things cant be too bad if you intend to sleep through them.

He cut off the important part of that sentence.

Something's telling me that he's not being honest here.

clever_name

I am curious where phosphate is going with this, at the moment it all seems to bit of a mess with no overall structure. Maybe with some time to think a better plot can be developed.

phosphate wrote: »

I can confirm these bunkers exist but due to an NDA cannot disclose what they are for.

Ok best not tell us anything about them.

phosphate wrote: »

inside will be a nuclear reactor for power.

Well what else would you use a nuclear reactor for, but we still don't know what the bunker is for because of the NDA.

phosphate wrote: »

Denerick, I happen to study history of UK and Ireland so I know there's no reason for the Queen of our frenemy nation to visit us except to make an important announcement to the country and it will most likely be related to 2012 when WW3 will break out and the elite will be taken to these bunkers for safety.

Well the cat is out of the bag now! Bye bye NDA!

I would love to see this NDA, really anyone who could compose an NDA that allows people involved to post details of where they work (would not be too hard to trace)

phosphate wrote: »

my connection with this is working with a quarry company who were requested to provide caterpillar dump trucks to remove the rock bored out from wicklow mountains

Then disclose the entire purpose for the bunkers (see above), really whoever wrote that NDA must have done it in crayon.

Remember that breaking this NDA is a life & death issue

phosphate wrote: »

Part of my NDA is that I would be saved.
I'd rather not jeopardise my leverage over the elite.

But things are not that bad maybe...

In another thread phosphate stated the following when responding to the question of what he will be doing during the end of the world in 2012

phosphate wrote: »

At home in bed, sleeping through it..

A hint for the future - a real NDA will usually have a clause forbidding you from discussing the NDA or any part of it.

uprising2

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Big boost for tourism, loads of pictures of lovely Ireland being beamed all over the world. Nothing to do with their personalities.

Not really, most people are well aware of this little island, do we all jet off to whatever country said military commanders have just visited?, we both know the answer is NO.

Loads of lovely pictures of Ireland have alread been beamed all over the world very recently......IMF etc, remember that, havent noticed a big increase in tourism since.

Ireland doesn't need obomber or lizzy to create tourism, the global recession is the main reason tourism has dropped, simply because people do not have the disposible income they had a few years ago, Irish aren't heading off in their droves either, have you noticed the number of travel agents closed down, obomber or lizzy will not re-open all these and pay unpaid wages or compensation to people who lost holidays.

Every country in the world has much less tourism in the past couple of years, airlines have gone out of business, these visits will not change anything.

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I don't think the queen is a warmonger though to be honest - she's as much a symbol as our president is. God knows when a royal in the UK actually made a decision on anything, but I don't think it would have happened in the last 100 years. Tony Blair, on the other hand...:mad:

Well if you haven't noticed, All british war ships and vessels (nuke subs etc) are called HMS Blah Blah, do you know what the HM stands for?, it's not Tony Blair, David Cameron, Maggie Thatcher, heres a clue they belong to "the royal navy"
The regiments are not called "The new labour fusiliers" or "The Tory Marines", "The LiBDem Commando's" you'll find they mostly all have royal in the title.
She's also commander in chief of Australia, Canada, Northern Ireland, and other nations in the past, so any attrocity committed by an armed force under her ultimate command carries up the chain of command to her, so I wouldn't like to start doing a body count.

As head of state, the British monarch, Queen Elizabeth II, is nominally the Head of the Armed Forces.[3] Longstanding constitutional convention, however, has vested de facto executive authority in the office of Prime Minister and the Cabinet.[4] The Queen remains the "ultimate authority" of the military and retains the power to prevent its unconstitutional use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-chief#United_Kingdom

So you see any attrocity committed in the past 50 odd years by british armed forces all over the world at least had her nod of approval, and has the power to pull all british armed forces whenever she want's, now do a little google and see what military adventures the UK has gone on since her coronation till today, all only needed a "No" from her and it was off, so every death caused by a british soldier since her coronation are ultimately on her head.

Obomber is responsible for every death caused to and by US forces since he did his thing and became president, remeber the promises of bringing the troops home, and recorded damn lies in his bid to fool the people which he did, with his backing from new york zionists who bankrolled him and his "YES WE CAN", (but we actually won't) bullsh1t.



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Monty Burnz wrote: »

I note that Eirigí couldn't put together a propaganda video without basic grammar errors. Doesn't reflect well on them (aside from the nonsense whataboutery in the videos).

TBH I didn't actually watch much of that video, just saw it was a Dublin City Council debate on objections to a royal visit, simply to show that not everybody will be out waving union jacks and she can expect some demonstrations, the millions of euro we dont really have to spare for these 2 clowns to come and say hello,

Penn

Dave! and phosphate banned for a week each.

Stay on-topic folks. Thanks

Jeboa Safari

If we can beam out images of Enda and Obama playing golf of course it would be good for tourism, especially wealthy American tourists. It's free exposure to the American and other world markets that Tourism Ireland would be delighted to take. And I'd say it will help on the investment side of things too, encouraging more companies to move here, with speculation that he may visit some of the American firms which have made Ireland their European HQ.
Hopefully the Shinners won't make a show of us and destroy Dublin protesting about the Queens visit, or even the lefties about Obamas visit.

Monty Burnz

uprising2 wrote: »

Not really, most people are well aware of this little island, do we all jet off to whatever country said military commanders have just visited?, we both know the answer is NO.

Loads of lovely pictures of Ireland have alread been beamed all over the world very recently......IMF etc, remember that, havent noticed a big increase in tourism since.

I think you are confusing positive and negative publicity. Stories of banking collapses, economic crises and homeless people would constitute bad publicity. This is likely to put off tourists.

Pictures of smiling royals and presidents travelling to scenic beauty spots would constitute good publicity. This is likely to encourage tourists to come here.

Of course you are right that the state of the global economy is one of the main reasons that tourism numbers are down, but the (nearly) free publicity created by these visits will be a big boost. The Ryder Cup a few years back was similar - you don't have to like Tiger Woods or what he has done to acknowledge that it was great international publicity for Ireland.

uprising2 wrote: »

Well if you haven't noticed, All british war ships and vessels (nuke subs etc) are called HMS Blah Blah, do you know what the HM stands for?, it's not Tony Blair, David Cameron, Maggie Thatcher, heres a clue they belong to "the royal navy"

I did notice that, thanks.

uprising2 wrote: »

The regiments are not called "The new labour fusiliers" or "The Tory Marines", "The LiBDem Commando's" you'll find they mostly all have royal in the title.
She's also commander in chief of Australia, Canada, Northern Ireland, and other nations in the past, so any attrocity committed by an armed force under her ultimate command carries up the chain of command to her, so I wouldn't like to start doing a body count.

You seem to be confusing symbols with reality. The queen is a symbol - she doesn't command the troops, she doesn't sit on her throne planning to invade anyone - she is is just a symbol. Your argument there is far more applicable to the POTUSA - he is an executive and actually does make those decisions.

uprising2 wrote: »

As head of state, the British monarch, Queen Elizabeth II, is nominally the Head of the Armed Forces.[3] Longstanding constitutional convention, however, has vested de facto executive authority in the office of Prime Minister and the Cabinet.[4] The Queen remains the "ultimate authority" of the military and retains the power to prevent its unconstitutional use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-chief#United_Kingdom

'Nominally' means 'in name', in contradistinction to 'in practice'. She may retain the power to prevent its unconstitutional use, but if you are blaming her for the recent adventure in Iraq for example, you will have to demonstrate that the invasion was unconstitutional under British law.

Emme

I thought that it might be because the US and the UK share certain security measures for visiting dignitaries. Instead of transporting security and safety equipment back and forth twice and have the hassle of setting up and dismantling equipment twice it might be more cost efficient to have one dignitary visit after the other. This way the the security measures could be left in place in between visits.

uprising2

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

If we can beam out images of Enda and Obama playing golf of course it would be good for tourism, especially wealthy American tourists. It's free exposure to the American and other world markets that Tourism Ireland would be delighted to take. And I'd say it will help on the investment side of things too, encouraging more companies to move here, with speculation that he may visit some of the American firms which have made Ireland their European HQ.
Hopefully the Shinners won't make a show of us and destroy Dublin protesting about the Queens visit, or even the lefties about Obamas visit.

It's free exposure?, what is free?, are they paying their own way or will Irish Tax money foot the bill, which will be millions for each visit, wealthy Americans who like golf will not come just because enda and Barry Sorento;), decide to make a show of themselves trying to immitate Tiger Woods and Padraig Harrington badly, the ones who do come to play golf already do, the recession doesnt exist for them, but what fraction of a percent of tourists come to play golf?

Ireland corporation tax is/was the main factor in investment from american companies, a tax the EU want brought into line EU wide, so if germany, france etc get their way, it would be a good idea for American companies to go to Poland or some other country where the wages are much lower, so much for "Yes to Lisbon".....

If people want to demonstrate and protest these two coming to town thats fair enough, both are guilty of numerous murders if you apply "joint-responsibility rule" which Charles Manson was jailed with (apart from other crimes), although he didn't commit the murders he was convicted with joint responsibility, being the leader of the killers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_and_several_liability

uprising2

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I think you are confusing positive and negative publicity. Stories of banking collapses, economic crises and homeless people would constitute bad publicity. This is likely to put off tourists.

Pictures of smiling royals and presidents travelling to scenic beauty spots would constitute good publicity. This is likely to encourage tourists to come here.

But when the said tourists see these beauty spots etc, and decide to come to Ireland because 2 warmongers smile while here they'll check it out on the net and get all the bad publicity, the smiles are meaningless.
Also Obama is going on a euopean tour so he will probably smile in each country he visits, so they can start counting the eggs in their baskets aswell

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Of course you are right that the state of the global economy is one of the main reasons that tourism numbers are down, but the (nearly) free publicity created by these visits will be a big boost. The Ryder Cup a few years back was similar - you don't have to like Tiger Woods or what he has done to acknowledge that it was great international publicity for Ireland.


I did notice that, thanks.

Yes it was very good to have Tiger Woods hit a ball with a stick, but can you PLEASE show the jump in tourism since that, you can't because it's been downhill since, and Austerity, that word we've all come to love, brings higher crime rates, not so good for tourism.
And the (nearly) free publicity, what's your definition of "free" and "nearly", because I don't know the exact cost this bankrupt nation will foot out because of these visits, but I can assure you it will be many millions of €€€€€€€€€'s, that we're constantly told we don't have, I don't know where you live, but round this way, and round most ways you will find plenty of people who have been told before, during and after these visits, "We Just DON'T Have It!", we owe billions and billions, actually we don't even know how many billions we actually owe, but it's grand, pay €€€€€€€€€€€ to protect this lady who has sent/allowed her soldiers to this land and many, many other lands to kill the natives, while masquerading as some sort of respectable "Lady?".

Monty Burnz wrote: »

You seem to be confusing symbols with reality. The queen is a symbol - she doesn't command the troops, she doesn't sit on her throne planning to invade anyone - she is is just a symbol. Your argument there is far more applicable to the POTUSA - he is an executive and actually does make those decisions.

'Nominally' means 'in name', in contradistinction to 'in practice'. She may retain the power to prevent its unconstitutional use, but if you are blaming her for the recent adventure in Iraq for example, you will have to demonstrate that the invasion was unconstitutional under British law.

Yea and what does "ultimate authority" mean?
Let me explain it to you again!

As head of state, the British monarch, Queen Elizabeth II, is nominally the Head of the Armed Forces.[3] Longstanding constitutional convention, however, has vested de facto executive authority in the office of Prime Minister and the Cabinet.[4] The Queen remains the "ultimate authority" of the military and retains the power to prevent its unconstitutional use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command...United_Kingdom

De facto is a Latin expression that means "by [the] fact." In law, it means "in practice but not necessarily ordained by law".

She is the "Ultimate Authority" and could have stopped any military intervention, like most of these.
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/main/index1.html

Imagine, just imagine, at the next elections, by some strange event a radical muslim government were voted in and decided to protect the civilians of Gaza from Israeli oppression, using HMS Blah, and launch some cruise missiles from HMS blah submarine, send in HM troops to Liberate and stop IDF forces from killing civilians, or to punish them for breaking a UN resolution, do you think the "Ultimate Authority" would allow it?, would they be allowed conduct pre-emptive strikes against percieved threats?

Di0genes

uprising2 wrote: »

Imagine, just imagine, at the next elections, by some strange event a radical muslim government were voted in and decided to protect the civilians of Gaza from Israeli oppression, using HMS Blah, and launch some cruise missiles from HMS blah submarine, send in HM troops to Liberate and stop IDF forces from killing civilians, or to punish them for breaking a UN resolution, do you think the "Ultimate Authority" would allow it?, would they be allowed conduct pre-emptive strikes against percieved threats?

Could you please explain the strange set of events that allow a radical Muslim government to become the government of GB.

Jeboa Safari

Well not exactly free, but its still massive exposure. I don't know what % are golf tourists, but it might encourage more, and it doesn't just have to golf, if they're pictured at other touristy places they can be shown off to the world.

If it's a peaceful protest fair enough, but if its something on the scale of the love Ulster riots then that will make a show of the country.

iamstop

Question:

Do
The leader visits + The secret bunkers + Census + The Georgia Stones + Peak Oil (maybe + planet x) = 2012?

If you think about it one way it gels. The elite leaders are all coming to Ireland to brief our leaders about the bunkers. The census is to sort those who are allowed into the bunkers to live according to the Georgia Stones (limit population to 500 Million). There is not enough fossil fuel left to sustain the planet's current population and growth. I don't know enough about planet x but threw it in anyway.

So are those of us privileged enough going to be herded into underground bunkers in Wicklow somewhere while there is some sort of world wide mass extinction event to bring the population down to a more manageable size?

Monty Burnz

iamstop wrote: »

Question:

Do
The leader visits + The secret bunkers + Census + The Georgia Stones + Peak Oil (maybe + planet x) = 2012?

If you think about it one way it gels. The elite leaders are all coming to Ireland to brief our leaders about the bunkers. The census is to sort those who are allowed into the bunkers to live according to the Georgia Stones (limit population to 500 Million). There is not enough fossil fuel left to sustain the planet's current population and growth. I don't know enough about planet x but threw it in anyway.

So are those of us privileged enough going to be herded into underground bunkers in Wicklow somewhere while there is some sort of world wide mass extinction event to bring the population down to a more manageable size?

Look at it another way - a conspiracy like that would involve thousands of people, if not hundreds of thousands. Is it possible that none of them would blow the whistle for conscientious reasons, or let the story out by accident?

I don't think peak oil will occur on a particular day or year either. And even if production does peak, presumably prices will just start shooting up and market forces will drive demand for oil down and we'll see a new equilibrium. Planet X is one of the silliest conspiracies ever (up there with the lizard people, and Scientology) as there is no evidence for it whatsoever.

The census is carried out on a schedule, so you can eliminate that from the equation too, I feel. It's not like it's the first one, or an emergency one. And I'd just point out that we have zero evidence that there is any construction of bunkers going on. Phosphate never sent me the info about the NDA that I could sign to learn about the bunkers, but I don't think that will surprise anyone

biscuiteater

volrex wrote: »

Any ideas on why they are visiting within such a close time frame??

either Ireland has been put on ebay by the EU bankers
or there's feck all left of the world to visit that hasn't been hit by natural disaster or war