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    #2432
    The Lost Sheep
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Quite a few exiles in that squad..

    Any idea when the schools side is to be named?
    Quite often there is a considerable number of exiles in clubs squad
    irishfan9 wrote: »
    They probably wont name a schools side til training camp at christmas and even then they might not.
    May may not. Up to coaches involved and if theyve a game
    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Schools are in camp this week in Kings Hospital - Was wondering if any squad would come out of that.
    Possibly. May wait until Christmas when schools usually play against clubs


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    #2433
    irishfan9
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    Amazingly Karl Martin is only 15. Was born in 2002.


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    #2434
    The Lost Sheep
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Amazingly Karl Martin is only 15. Was born in 2002.
    Yeah only an under 16.
    Been quite a while since an under 16 has played Ireland u18 clubs.


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    #2435
    irishfan9
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    Irish u18 squad for Portugal game next weekend

    Prop
    Marcus Hanan (North Kildare RFC/ Salesians College)
    Conor Morrissey (Cork Constitution FC / Mayfield CS)
    Paddy Harris (Wasps Academy/Henley College)
    Charlie Ward (Tullow RFC / Tullow Community School)

    Hooker
    Padraig McCarthy (Bantry Bay RFC/ Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
    Mark Nicholson (Wicklow RFC / Colaiste Chill Mhantain)

    2nd Row
    Thomas Ahern (Dungarvan RFC/ St. Augustine's Dungarvan)
    Iarlaith Morrin Laheen (Galwegians RFC/Calasanctius College)

    Backrow
    Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/Denstone College) IQ
    Connor Beer (Bath Academy/Beechen Cliff School) IQ
    Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond RFC/Nenagh CBS)
    Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School) IQ

    Scrumhalf
    Shane Murphy (Skerries RFC / St Joseph's Rush)
    Kevin O'Connor (Cashel RFC/Cashel Community School)

    Outhalf
    Ben Daly (Waterpark RFC/Ard Scoil Na Mhara)
    Paddy McKenzie (Wicklow RFC / East Glendalough School)

    Outside Backs
    Joe Henry (Wellington College) IQ
    Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/Cranleigh School) IQ
    Karl Martin (Boyne RFC / St. Marys School Drogheda)
    Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/Millfield) IQ
    Conor O'Brien (Nenagh Ormond RFC/Nenagh CBS)
    Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers RFC/Garbally College)
    Thomas Ahern (Buccaneers RFC/Coláiste Chíaráin)


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    #2436
    irishfan9
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Yeah only an under 16.
    Been quite a while since an under 16 has played Ireland u18 clubs.

    Sam Dardis was u16 when he played in the combined schools/club side in 2016.


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    #2437
    The Lost Sheep
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    irishfan9 wrote:
    Sam Dardis was u16 when he played in the combined schools/club side in 2016.
    he's a schools player. Was specifically referring to clubs(youths) player


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    #2438
    irishfan9
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    he's a schools player. Was specifically referring to clubs(youths) player

    you said a player, sam dardis is a player who played on the ireland u18 combined school/club team as a u16.


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    #2439
    irishfan9
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    U18 club team of players that missed out:

    1. Niall Preston(Ulster)
    2. Barry Ryan(Leinster)
    3. Daragh Fitzgerald(Munster)
    4. Fionn Gilbert(Leinster)
    5. Conor McMenamim(Ulster)
    6. Brian Deeney(Leinster)
    7. Luke Thompson(Leinster)
    8. Mark Stafford(Munster)
    9. Evan Kenny(Connacht)
    10. Cian Treacy(Connacht)
    11. David McNamara(Munster)
    12. Jamie Shanahan (Munster)
    13. Patrick Scully(Munster)
    14. Shane Jennings(Connacht)
    15. Conor O’Shaughnessy(Connacht)


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    #2440
    irishfan9
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    Ireland u18 club side that defeated Portugal
    15. Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/IQ Rugby) 1 try
    14. Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/IQ Rugby) 1 try
    13. Karl Martin (Boyne/Leinster) 1 try
    12. Joe Henry (Wellington College/IQ Rugby)
    11. Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers/Connacht) 1 try
    10. Paddy McKenzie (Wicklow/Leinster) 1 try
    9. Shane Murphy (Skerries/Leinster) 1 con
    1. Conor Morrissey (Cork Constitution/Munster)
    2. Padraig McCarthy (Bantry Bay/Munster) 1 try
    3. Charlie Ward (Tullow/Leinster)
    4. Thomas Ahern (Dungarvan/Munster) 2 tries
    5. Iarlaith Morrin Laheen (Galwegians/Connacht)
    6. Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond/Munster)
    7. Connor Beer (Bath Academy/IQ Rugby) (capt)
    8. Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/IQ Rugby).

    16. Mark Nicholson (Wicklow/Leinster)
    17. Marcus Hanan (North Kildare/Leinster)
    18. Paddy Harris (Wasps Academy/IQ Rugby)
    19. Darragh Murray (Buccaneers/Connacht)
    20. Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School/IQ Rugby)
    21. Kevin O'Connor (Cashel/Munster)
    22. Ben Daly (Waterpark/Munster) 1 con
    23. Conor O'Brien (Nenagh Ormond/Munster) 1 con


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    #2441
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster phase 1 at under 16 and 18 level taking shape with most teams about halfway through their games in this group stage.
    Ennis, Skibbereen, Douglas-Carrigaline, Kilfeacle, Waterpark looking strong at 16s so far

    Young Munster, Nenagh, Old Crescent, Newcastle West, Bandon, Cobh, Cashel-Fethard and Waterpark at 18s


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    #2442
    Quin_Dub
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Munster U18 Competitions adjusted to now be U18.5 with immediate effect.

    Age range is now 1st July 1999 to 31st December 2001 - Which is a big age range.

    From this week-end you could have players that are still 15 years old playing against guys almost 18 and a half.

    Nothing wrong with the change in principal but it should have been down at the start of the season in conjunction perhaps with a similar shift at U16 or the introduction of an U17 league.

    Doing it now when the leagues are already up and running isn't a great idea in my view..

    In smaller clubs some players may have already left the club to play 20's elsewhere but might still be playing with their original team if this had been done at the start of the season.

    And just like that - The Munster branch change their minds again.

    18.5 change now NOT going ahead this season - Munster Cup will remain as U18 comp for this season, with all age groupings to be reviewed in the off-season..

    Clearly enough clubs expressed concerns about the mid-season change so they cancelled it..

    All could have been avoided if they'd actually consulted with clubs before making announcements.

    Now clubs have to go back to players and say "Sorry , you can't actually play with us - Off you go back to the wilderness for the year"...


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    #2443
    The Lost Sheep
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    And just like that - The Munster branch change their minds again.

    18.5 change now NOT going ahead this season - Munster Cup will remain as U18 comp for this season, with all age groupings to be reviewed in the off-season..

    Clearly enough clubs expressed concerns about the mid-season change so they cancelled it..

    All could have been avoided if they'd actually consulted with clubs before making announcements.

    Now clubs have to go back to players and say "Sorry , you can't actually play with us - Off you go back to the wilderness for the year"...
    Most 18.5s will now be 18 years of age bar those born in second half of november or in december so are eligible for adult rugby so now its not actually back to the wilderness.
    Shame that clubs didnt see that this would be better for them than keeping status quo.
    This change should mean that next season there needs to be an under 17 competition so competitions are then lined up with Connacht and Leinster and we could have an all ireland youths competition again


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    #2444
    irishbucsfan
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    Shocking leadership from the branch


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    #2445
    Quin_Dub
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Most 18.5s will now be 18 years of age bar those born in second half of november or in december so are eligible for adult rugby so now its not actually back to the wilderness.
    Shame that clubs didnt see that this would be better for them than keeping status quo.
    This change should mean that next season there needs to be an under 17 competition so competitions are then lined up with Connacht and Leinster and we could have an all ireland youths competition again

    My issue is that for example I coach an U18 side , based on the announced change I brought back 4 players to train with the U18's and now a few weeks later I have to tell them to leave the squad.

    Our Club doesn't have a 20's side and 3 of the 4 are still 17 so they effectively will have to wait until the new year before possibly playing Gleeson league or whatever..

    It's just really poor management and totally inconsiderate to the players. Why didn't they consult the clubs, get input etc. before making the announcement which would have avoided disrupting players unnecessarily.

    It's yet another example of the committees not talking to those they are supposed to represent and more importantly putting consideration of how the young players themselves feel/react at the lowest priority level..


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    #2446
    The Lost Sheep
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Shocking leadership from the branch
    Poorly communicated but right idea. Should have been done and talked about 3 months earlier though
    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    My issue is that for example I coach an U18 side, based on the announced change I brought back 4 players to train with the U18's and now a few weeks later I have to tell them to leave the squad.

    Our Club doesn't have a 20's side and 3 of the 4 are still 17 so they effectively will have to wait until the new year before possibly playing Gleeson league or whatever..

    It's just really poor management and totally inconsiderate to the players. Why didn't they consult the clubs, get input etc. before making the announcement which would have avoided disrupting players unnecessarily.

    It's yet another example of the committees not talking to those they are supposed to represent and more importantly putting consideration of how the young players themselves feel/react at the lowest priority level..
    Clubs should be working with branch for an under 20 competition like whats ran in Connacht for this season. Clubs turn up with whatever numbers they have to each blitz(there is 5/6 in the season). All clubs get points no matter what for playing and clubs encouraged to turn up even if they dont have enough players to play on their own.
    How far from a club playing 20s are you? Could they go on loan to play 20s so ensured they have rugby to play.
    The committee are trying to get more kids playing. Cant fault them for that. Criticism of how decision was handled is fair but the decision to change was correct as it should help get more fielding at 18s
    The provincial committee who made decision would have reps from the 4 regions and who should be in communication with the reps from the clubs who are on the regional committees so it cant be just the provincial committee who get criticism for this. Why didnt clubs do more earlier??


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    #2447
    irishfan9
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    Ireland u18 clubs highlights:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV-ZWIpJByc&app=desktop


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    #2448
    The Lost Sheep
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    Any thoughts on competitions across the country so far. Munster competitions been talked about a bit here but little on the other provinces.

    Just a thought What club(s) would people see as the strongest youths sections in the country?
    Waterpark, Ballina, Navan would be up there but which others?


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    #2449
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster Phase 2 cups launched
    https://munsterrugby.ie/domestic_news/bank-ireland-age-grade-competitions-launch/


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    #2450
    The Lost Sheep
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    Irish under 18 squads picked. Some final rounds of phase 1 leagues in Munster as well as some playoffs this weekend.


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    #2451
    Quin_Dub
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Irish under 18 squads picked. Some final rounds of phase 1 leagues in Munster as well as some playoffs this weekend.

    Are the squads online anywhere?


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    #2452
    The Lost Sheep
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Are the squads online anywhere?
    Not in full yet


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    #2453
    The Lost Sheep
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    Evan Murphy Nenagh Ormond is in one of under 18 irish squads for game they play against each other over christmas break


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    #2454
    The Lost Sheep
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    Draws for Phase 2 Munster league have been made for both the under 16 and 18 competitions.


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    #2455
    The Lost Sheep
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    Nenagh beat Ennis in north Munster u18 league semi final last night 16-14. Other seminars final tonight. No results yet


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    #2456
    Quin_Dub
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Nenagh beat Ennis in north Munster u18 league semi final last night 16-14. Other seminars final tonight. No results yet

    Young Munster beat Bruff 7-5 in the other semi-final.

    Final on the 27th at 2pm on the 4G in UL.


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    #2457
    The Lost Sheep
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Young Munster beat Bruff 7-5 in the other semi-final.

    Final on the 27th at 2pm on the 4G in UL.
    16s final also on in UL on 4G on 27th along with a schools senior friendly


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    #2458
    The Lost Sheep
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    Nenagh won 18s final 30-19
    Ennis won 16s 41-12

    All fixtures for phase 2 munster cup are up online

    And Shane Horgan Cup continues
    https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/shane-horgan-cup-rd-3-preview/


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    #2459
    irishfan9
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    Shane Horgan Cup-3rd Round
    Today in Donnybrook Stadium
    Metro V North East Kick off 11.30am
    South East V @North Midlands Kick off 1pm


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    #2460
    irishfan9
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    North East defeated Metro - 34-19.
    South East defeated North Midlands - 31-10.


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    #2461
    The Lost Sheep
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    North East defeated Metro - 34-19.
    South East defeated North Midlands - 31-10.
    were you at the games or just get results from twitter?


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