Livestock/General Farming photo thread ***READ MOD NOTE IN POST #1***

td5man

reilig wrote: »

td5man wrote: »

I'm charging €35+ vat some are charging €40

€35 + VAT around here for a Hitachi ex135 You can get less experienced drivers for less, but he might only get through 2/3 of the work of an experienced one.

Trying telling some people that, had a lad last year telling me he could get a machine and driver for €20/hr he still got me at €35.
Talking to a contractor lately and he was saying that he was working as slow as he could to stretch the job out i'd feel as if everyone was watching me if i wasn't getting the most out of the machine.

Viewtodiefor

td5man wrote: »

reilig wrote: »

td5man wrote: »

I'm charging €35+ vat some are charging €40

€35 + VAT around here for a Hitachi ex135 You can get less experienced drivers for less, but he might only get through 2/3 of the work of an experienced one.

Trying telling some people that, had a lad last year telling me he could get a machine and driver for €20/hr he still got me at €35.
Talking to a contractor lately and he was saying that he was working as slow as he could to stretch the job out i'd feel as if everyone was watching me if i wasn't getting the most out of the machine.

God I'm sick! Had a lad doing a big job he's charging 50 hr for 13 ton havnt paid him yet mind.

Manoffeeling

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

God I'm sick! Had a lad doing a big job he's charging 50 hr for 13 ton havnt paid him yet mind.

Get out the Vaseline

just do it

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

God I'm sick! Had a lad doing a big job he's charging 50 hr for 13 ton havnt paid him yet mind.

Out of interest what part of the country are you in?

Viewtodiefor

just do it wrote: »

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

God I'm sick! Had a lad doing a big job he's charging 50 hr for 13 ton havnt paid him yet mind.

Out of interest what part of the country are you in?

South east. Where r u yourself? Hav a good mind to tell him Feck off! But suppose I can't do that! Bit of inexperience on my part

Juniorhurler

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

God I'm sick! Had a lad doing a big job he's charging 50 hr for 13 ton havnt paid him yet mind.

I got a guy in north Wexford (Known locally as the best man within 30miles to drain land) for €45 inc VAT on a 21 tonne machine. If you are in my locality you will know who I am talking about. Runs nothing only CAT diggers to give another clue.

Viewtodiefor

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

God I'm sick! Had a lad doing a big job he's charging 50 hr for 13 ton havnt paid him yet mind.

I got a guy in north Wexford (Known locally as the best man within 30miles to drain land) for €45 inc VAT on a 21 tonne machine. If you are in my locality you will know who I am talking about. Runs nothing only CAT diggers to give another clue.

Ah bit far from ya I'd say. Good price though if he's that good

just do it

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

South east. Where r u yourself? Hav a good mind to tell him Feck off! But suppose I can't do that! Bit of inexperience on my part

I'm in West Clare. Generally all things are a bit cheaper than the rest of the country but then again the area isn't as wealthy as the rest of the country;).

€50 in all fairness is a bit checky but if that is what you agreed before he started the job what can you do. Are you happy with what he did? Did he get through a lot per hour? If so write it off as a learning experience but barter with him and if he's any good you should come to some arrangement. He's a tough nut asking for €50 so don't be frightened to play hard ball with him - it's the only way to gain a bit of respect from that type.

just do it

Juniorhurler wrote: »

I got a guy in north Wexford (Known locally as the best man within 30miles to drain land) for €45 inc VAT on a 21 tonne machine. If you are in my locality you will know who I am talking about. Runs nothing only CAT diggers to give another clue.

For anyone that doesn't know the VAT is reclaimable even if you're not registered for VAT.

Juniorhurler - does a 21 tonne machine get through much more work in an hour do you reckon? For comparision my lad cleared a 350m trench in one day (8am-6pm) that was badly clogged and included lowering a section of it (for my neighbours benefit rather than mine!).

dar31

1st calver with her heifer calf,

bogman_bass

nice heifer Dar31. whats she by?

reilig

Juniorhurler wrote: »

I got a guy in north Wexford (Known locally as the best man within 30miles to drain land) for €45 inc VAT on a 21 tonne machine. If you are in my locality you will know who I am talking about. Runs nothing only CAT diggers to give another clue.

My contractor wouldn't dream of bringing a 21 ton machine onto land for to clean up drains and break down bushes. I wouldn't let him either. A bigger machine is harder on ground. Its awkward and slower than a 12 ton machine and harder to get a neater job done (You'd be reinstating the ground after yourself every time you moved). I suppose it might be ok on good dry land, but it just wouldn't work around here!

Juniorhurler

reilig wrote: »

My contractor wouldn't dream of bringing a 21 ton machine onto land for to clean up drains and break down bushes. I wouldn't let him either. A bigger machine is harder on ground. Its awkward and slower than a 12 ton machine and harder to get a neater job done (You'd be reinstating the ground after yourself every time you moved). I suppose it might be ok on good dry land, but it just wouldn't work around here!

I have marly ground and he was grand on it with that machine. It was coming out of rape so it is going to be ploughed anyway. This guy put in over 900m of drainage pipe in the one day. Him digging and the son laying the pipe and driving the stoning cart. He didn't backfill them in the day though obviously.
He didn't backfill them though. The father drove dozers for years and reckons he never saw a man to cover work like him. He put in 2200m of drains altogether in 23 acres. He also dug or cleaned up 1800m of deep gripes (2-3m deep) around the edges. On top of this the ditches were grown out about 3-5m all around the boundaries and he cleaned these.

At one stage for 4 days he had a 21 ton machine, a 17 ton machine (this was only loading the stoning cart) and a 170hp tractor and stoning cart in the place. For another 5 days he had just the 21 ton machine. I gave him €4300 including VAT. I thought he was good value at it as his day was 8.30 to 5.30 with only one break of 20 mins or so to eat.

Richk2012

ZETOR_IS_BETTER wrote: »

Posted this heifer up in May I think



This is her recently

The wet summer certainly seemed to suit her . She throve great for you . What bull is she after or is it your stock bull ???

ZETOR_IS_BETTER

Richk2012 wrote: »

The wet summer certainly seemed to suit her . She throve great for you . What bull is she after or is it your stock bull ???

She is off the stock bull Richk. Never really tried ai before. I can think of only about three cows in the last 10 years where we used ai.

ZETOR_IS_BETTER

Just another thought on this great thread.
I never used to take progress photos of the calves before or hardly any photos of the animals at all.
Its nice to see the growth difference in them at weaning time/ end of year

Kovu

Calves to be sold tomorrow night. First off a blue off WTB and LM dam and born early jan/late dec, can't remember which.


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Second is his arse and the only heifer to be sold, a heifer i'd love to keep


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(I'd pictured the bull after they were born earlier this year if anyone wants to compare- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78255975&postcount=1571, heifer is in another post I can't find )

Hay_man

Hi KM

How do you find the way the BB's grow ? say compared to the CH's

I have a few of them the blues this year and very few of them have grown the way I would like them to, What do the buyers think of such cattle or does there size matter at all?

Juniorhurler

Hay_man wrote: »

Hi KM

How do you find the way the BB's grow ? say compared to the CH's

I have a few of them the blues this year and very few of them have grown the way I would like them to, What do the buyers think of such cattle or does there size matter at all?

If they have the shape and the muscle the size don't matter much in my experience. At the weanling sales about here this year the blues are outselling the equivalent weight charolaois by up to €350

Hay_man

Juniorhurler wrote: »

If they have the shape and the muscle the size don't matter much in my experience. At the weanling sales about here this year the blues are outselling the equivalent weight charolaois by up to €350

Thanks, yes I suppose it's in their genes to be small

stanflt

tismesoitis wrote: »

Heres the part bull thats goin to the ploughing. He was weighed about 2-3 weeks back by icbf 354kgs born on the 22nd of feb.

i thought you would be more into holstein when i saw your name 2day

tismesoitis

stanflt wrote: »

i thought you would be more into holstein when i saw your name 2day

Moved on Stan nearly 6 years outa cows now and no regrets:) i hope they were looking after him and there were no bottles of tylosin or alymicin movin his direction:D...Howd he look not goin down til thurs??

stanflt

tismesoitis wrote: »

Moved on Stan nearly 6 years outa cows now and no regrets:) i hope they were looking after him and there were no bottles of tylosin or alymicin movin his direction:D...Howd he look not goin down til thurs??

he looked fantastic-great shape. a real credit to you, well done

Kovu

Hay_man wrote: »

Hi KM

How do you find the way the BB's grow ? say compared to the CH's

I have a few of them the blues this year and very few of them have grown the way I would like them to, What do the buyers think of such cattle or does there size matter at all?

I'll be able to let you know exactly after we sell the CH X in 2 weeks time. The blues just happened to be the early ones. To be honest I think they will average the same despite a 6 week age difference. The big blue bull is just one of those early guys any needs to get out of the yard as he's rising on everything. His mother is the height of the gates though so he has an excuse for his size.
Size with blues is a very delicate matter. Do you want muscle or growth?

limo_100

A nice DEZ heifer calf out of a CF52 cow. shes a fairly powerful calf should make a nice calf when she straightens out

1chippy

great muscling for a friesan there kovo:D

Muckit

Remember this one?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056212709&page=58

(Pic above was taken 9/5/12)

Sold her today in the mart along with a few more.

680kg.....€1790 Not bad

Manoffeeling

Super money. Well done

Seaba

Myself and Dad were just smiling this evening, looking at probably our plainest looking cow.
A tall 7 yr old Limousin (ORS) who is nothing to look at, but would calf anything and brings a whopper of a Charolais bull calf every year. Included a picture of her last calf - 4 month old, DEZ bull calf.
The pictures really do him no just at all!
Her last 3 Charolais bulls all graded U3 in the factory with bugger all nuts/feed.
She broke very late last year and went 4 months before we caught her in heat today (DEZ again) Up to that she was calving early every year.
As Dad always says - its not always the best cow that brings the best calf. (He gets a few things right!)