The Last Guardian Thread

richymcdermott

Didn't see anyone discuss bout The Last Guardian, Team Ico 3rd game Looks to be a Classic. I consider Shadow of the Colossus my favourite game of all time , it was just Magnificent and was shown to many people that videogames can be art too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHzHoMT5eRg

Here are New Screen Shots


http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/84825/the-last-guardian-new-screenshots/





I cant wait for this gem, Fumito Ueda and Team Ico i trust to make even a possible better experience than ico and SOTC had on me

Magill

richymcdermott wrote: »

Didn't see anyone discuss bout The Last Guardian, Team Ico 3rd game Looks to be a Classic. I consider Shadow of the Colossus my favourite game of all time , it was just Magnificent and was shown to many people that videogames can be art too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHzHoMT5eRg

Here are New Screen Shots


http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/84825/the-last-guardian-new-screenshots/





I cant wait for this gem, Fumito Ueda and Team Ico i trust to make even a possible better experience than ico and SOTC had on me

Theres not alot of discussion because we still havent seen much of the game, i've no doubt it'll be a contender for GOTY tho.

richymcdermott

Magill wrote: »

Theres not alot of discussion because we still havent seen much of the game, i've no doubt it'll be a contender for GOTY tho.

its mos likely will be GOTY , SOTC and Ico won tons of awards so this will very well may be , lack of gameplay doesnt bother me i know this will be great

K.O.Kiki

I'm trying to find out as little as possible about the game prior to release.

That's how I found ICO so appealing -- I knew it was good, I just didn't know "why" until I played it.

Retr0gamer

I very much doubt we'll be playing it in 2010. I think the plan so far is a late 2010 release in Japan and a Spring release in the West.

Otacon

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I very much doubt we'll be playing it in 2011. I think the plan so far is a late 2011 release in Japan and a Spring release in the West.

*cough*

Retr0gamer

Otacon wrote: »

*cough*

Well play it in japanese if you want.

Mr E

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I very much doubt we'll be playing it in 2010. I think the plan so far is a late 2010 release in Japan and a Spring release in the West.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well play it in japanese if you want.

Must..... resist.... facepalm image.....

Retr0gamer

Oh a typo. Yawn.

Xenji

Looks like we will not be seeing this till 2015 at the earliest

http://kotaku.com/the-last-guadian-is-not-as-important-as-other-games-rig-1181769740

K.O.Kiki

Xenji wrote: »

Looks like we will not be seeing this till 2015 at the earliest

http://kotaku.com/the-last-guadian-is-not-as-important-as-other-games-rig-1181769740

(T__T)

C14N

Xenji wrote: »

Looks like we will not be seeing this till 2015 at the earliest

http://kotaku.com/the-last-guadian-is-not-as-important-as-other-games-rig-1181769740

How can a game that takes this long possibly be profitable?

Mr.Saturn

This is like when the Half-Life 3 thread reappears, isn't it?

K.O.Kiki

C14N wrote: »

How can a game that takes this long possibly be profitable?

Tiny dev team.

It's easier when your salaries are spread between 12 people rather than 250.

Andrew76

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

This is like when the Half-Life 3 thread reappears, isn't it?

Full of disappointment.

GTR63

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Tiny dev team.

It's easier when your salaries are spread between 12 people rather than 250.

Didn`t the studio head leave then say he was staying just until they finish this game?

C14N

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Tiny dev team.

It's easier when your salaries are spread between 12 people rather than 250.

Is Team Ico really that small? I mean I could understand a team of 12 making Ico and maybe Shadow of the Colossus at a real stretch but with the kind of graphical fidelity this game has it looks like a major, high-budget game that would need a fairly large team.

K.O.Kiki

C14N wrote: »

Is Team Ico really that small? I mean I could understand a team of 12 making Ico and maybe Shadow of the Colossus at a real stretch but with the kind of graphical fidelity this game has it looks like a major, high-budget game that would need a fairly large team.

http://teamico.wikia.com/wiki/Team_Ico

SotC had only 43 people in their credits (not including translators)

ShaneU

Cancelled according to IGN

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/06/07/the-last-guardian-cancelled?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Robert ninja

^ Listening to anything IGN has to say... ever

https://twitter.com/RohdeScott/status/475515804067569664

CiDeRmAn

Dear Glob in heaven, please may it be a surprise at E3... Please please please...

Xenji

tok9

They just have to show it this year. Or say something... I need something!

tok9

It's happening.

o1s1n

How someone can write 'intvu tmrw' straight after using the word 'unequivocally' is baffling :pac:

I seriously won't believe this game is going ahead on the current gen until I have a copy of it in my hands. Sick of being disappointed

CiDeRmAn

o1s1n wrote: »

I seriously won't believe this game is going ahead on the current gen until I have a copy of it in my hands. Sick of being disappointed

They'll have to set up a counselling service for heartbroken PS3 owners who have been patiently awaiting this game since the console was launched.
I'd say the kind of emotional turmoil if this gets announced as a PS4 exclusive could be too much.
Still, a lot of work there for asylums in the country, caring for the poor souls.

cloud493

I'm calling it, we won't see the last guardian till 2020, if at all.

tok9

As I have a PS4 I'm hoping it will become a PS4 exclusive but I definitely understand where you're coming from Ciderman.

As it's Japan.. I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a PS3 exclusive. I just don't want it to be cross gen.

johnny_ultimate

Now I'm reluctant to believe any of the hearsay and conjecture that has surrounded this game over the last few years, but there does seem to have been frequent suggestions that the game ran into fairly severe technical challenges necessitating the input of different studios to try and solve them. If there's any truth in that, then moving to the PS4 seems like not only a potential option, but also the preferable one. If the extra processing power of the machine allows Ueda and his team to realise their vision as intended, then I wouldn't begrudge it even if I didn't own a PS4. These are developers who have always overshot with frankly glorious results - the sheer depth of SotC's design more than makes up for the fact that technically it clearly shoves a next-gen (or PS3) vision into previous-gen hardware (PS2). If The Last Guardian arrives on PS4, then it will undoubtedly be a significantly less compromised game than a PS3 (or indeed cross-gen) version would - I'm sure that would still be an astonishing game, mind you, given Team Ico are responsible for two games that pretty much every other developer in the world is still struggling to catch up with.

But the thought of what they'll come out with after potentially skipping a whole console generation... this could be a Terence Malick sort of situation!

K.O.Kiki

Ico (started life on PS1, moved to PS2)
Shadow of the Colossus (finished on PS2, but only good framerate on PS3)
The Last Guardian (started life on PS3, better on PS4?)

I can dig it.

CiDeRmAn

I don't care.
If it came out on the BBC-B I'd buy it to play The Last Guardian, I'd buy a PS4 to play The Last Guardian, without hesitation, I'd mortgage the cat, sell the children, indenture the wife, figure how many liver lobes I can live without and which kidney I'm not so attached to and I'd sell them all, then buy a PS4, just for that game.
This is what the next gen, heck, every gen is about.
It doesn't matter who builds the machines that enable you to play, it only matters that you get your sweaty mitts on the best experiences possible, and if the game is really that good, it is worth buying the whole console for that, even if nothing of note ever comes out again.
The PS2 is a stone cold legend of a machine, there hasn't been a console since to host so many utterly must have games.
But, if it only ever hosted Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, it would have been worth buying for those alone.
Although Ibara and Odin Sphere are pretty good reasons to own it as well!

Benzino

I fear this game will disappoint and end up been average. It's turning into another Duke Nukem Forever.

To think, Naughty Dog have released 3 Uncharted's (will soon be 4) and The Last of Us since work began on this, which is crazy (I realise Naughty Dog has a bigger team, but still). They have basically went through an entire console generation without releasing a game. Fair play to Sony for keeping them on the payroll, many wouldn't.

CiDeRmAn

I would take a else from Team Ico before any of games mentioned.
Uncharted really only furthered the art of the cut scene, everything else is fun, but nothing that stays with you like Ico does or SotC.
I would be shocked of this turns out to be a poor game, The Last Guardian is based around a vision, one mans vision, world building and myth creating.
Games like this are why I play video games.

Otacon

So, gamescom? Or TGS?

tok9

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I would take a else from Team Ico before any of games mentioned.
Uncharted really only furthered the art of the cut scene, everything else is fun, but nothing that stays with you like Ico does or SotC.

Ah come on now. Uncharted 2 is one of the best games of the last generation. Every game doesn't have to be a piece of art.

Otacon wrote: »

So, gamescom? Or TGS?

Oh ya... 100%

CiDeRmAn

tok9 wrote: »

Ah come on now. Uncharted 2 is one of the best games of the last generation. Every game doesn't have to be a piece of art.

It was fun, but I honestly wouldn't have considered it one of the best.
Certainly very polished, and some great scenes, but the action sometimes feels very scripted and the game is utterly linear, so you are really just running through some very pretty linked rooms.
I had a blast with it while it lasted but I really wouldn't rate it compared with Dark Souls or it's sequel.
The cut scenes were amazing, really, they furthered the art of the cut scene in the Uncharted games and only improved it in TLOU, but the actual gameplay was nothing remarkable, being a relatively solid 3rd person, cover based shooter.

And, honestly, I found Ico and SotC have been the games that have stayed with me the most over the last ten years.

But, you're right, not every game has to be a work of art.
Similar arguments are that games don't have to be long or smothered in photorealism to be considered worthy.

Tearaway is possibly the one though, the game of the last year or two that was the best, along with the two Souls games mentioned, Tearaway was pure gaming joy.

Edit: Oh, yeah, I'm not denying that Uncharted 2 might be loved by many, and felt that it was the best of the PS3 games, I just didn't find it so, and it's predecessor was a pain with the sixaxis crap shoehorned in and the third one felt like little more than a retread of the mechanics of the second one, and I did have plenty of fun with the second one, but for action and adventure I think COD4:MW and it's immediate sequel MW2 pipped it, they were an absolute blast to play.

.ak

Personally I think people have a very high-horse opinion of Uncharted because it is a fairly linear, mainstream gaming series. But the reality is games are designed to be fun, and Uncharted ticks all boxes and then some. I think it caught a lot of people out by surprise with that. Sure it wasn't that long ago we thought games like Pitfall and Prince of Persia were amazing games - Uncharted just carries on that platform tradition. The game play is very good, too.

Although I don't know why we're using that as an example to compare it to TLG. Personally I find it odd that it's taken this long, I don't think the vision/idea of the game is holding it back, just the fact they don't have a team with the technical nuances to make it happen.

tok9

Well at least we know it's in full development. I'm sure we'll hear it mentioned by someone at E3.

CiDeRmAn

.ak wrote: »

Personally I think people have a very high-horse opinion of Uncharted because it is a fairly linear, mainstream gaming series. But the reality is games are designed to be fun, and Uncharted ticks all boxes and then some. I think it caught a lot of people out by surprise with that. Sure it wasn't that long ago we thought games like Pitfall and Prince of Persia were amazing games - Uncharted just carries on that platform tradition. The game play is very good, too.

Although I don't know why we're using that as an example to compare it to TLG. Personally I find it odd that it's taken this long, I don't think the vision/idea of the game is holding it back, just the fact they don't have a team with the technical nuances to make it happen.

Ah, Prince of Persia, Sands of Time on the PS2, now that was a platformer. Pure brilliant.

Read back over the previous few posts to see why Uncharted was mentioned.

Benzino

I only mentioned Uncharted and Naughty Dog cause they are well respected, I could just have easily said there have been 6 or 7 Fifa's since they started this :pac:

I honestly think it's more than technical issues holding them back at this stage, it's gotta be design issues too (their design/plan for the game might not have been technically possible on the PS3). Of course at this stage they are working on the PS4 now, but it's going to be 2016 at the earliest before we see it.

RasTa

Might be out for the PS5

Rumours were rife that Team ICO’s The Last Guardian had been cancelled prior to Sony’s E3 media briefing. Nonetheless, while Sony clarified these claims, we still saw no sign of the game at the expo. President of worldwide studios for SCE Shuhei Yoshida spoke to Eurogamer about the situation for the past couple of days and why The Last Guardian missed E3 again.

“There were a difficult couple of days before the show – I’m sure you noticed. I’m so happy it was retracted before the show happened.” He then said that development was still on for the game.

“Lots of people tweeted me they were heartbroken by that news [prior to the show]. People are going through this roller coaster of emotions, and it’s our fault for not releasing the game, yet.

“We owe a lot to those people, but we really don’t want to release piecemeal information until we can say this is The Last Guardian – so we ask you to wait.”

The Last Guardian's exclusion from Sony's E3 presentation has been explained.

The forthcoming action-adventure title wasn't showcased during the presser because it simply 'wasn't ready'.

"It was a fun week of Last Guardian news," PlayStation executive Scott Rohde told GameSpot.

"At PlayStation, it's really important to us to make sure that the creative process works."

He added: "And in this case, [game director Fumito Ueda] has created something that's great, it's just going to need some time. We'll show it when it's ready."

CiDeRmAn

They should just release it already for the Vita, then build a purdy version for the PS4.
Just release the flipping thing already!

Zeouterlimits

You can't release what's far from being finished.
We'll probably see something at TGS, but it might end up being a 2016 game.

johnny_ultimate

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

They should just release it already for the Vita, then build a purdy version for the PS4.
Just release the flipping thing already!

If they're having trouble fitting it into PS3 hardware, I think switching to Vita may be solving the wrong problem :pac:

K.O.Kiki

While we're all talking of Uncharted: I dislike many aspects of them.

The platforming sections are quite dull in their linearity (since you don't have many options beyond "hold DIRECTION until you need to press JUMP"), and their length pales in comparison to the endless, neverending SHOOTING.

I can't even remember how many humans I killed over the course of the games I finished (1+3), but it was definitely in the hundreds.
And honestly, after the first few dozen, it becomes very samey and dull: walk into area, find some cover, shoot until there's 1-2 guys left and punch him in the face.
Also I started to question whether I was even a "hero" (since the heroes I know don't kill THIS often) but the story wants me to know I'm very definitely the "good guy".

In contrast, I remember every kill from Shadow of the Colossus, because every encounter was grandiose and meaningful. And some of them definitely felt wrong, but the game didn't try to impress on me that I was a hero: I was a selfish boy, and I got what I deserved.

Benzino

Ha, I'm to blame for this Uncharted chat, apologies, though I wasn't even comparing the games!

tok9

After a no show at e3 I don't think we'll see it until next e3 at he earliest. They aren't releasing any info on it so it's a safe bet to assume full dev has only started recently.

J. Marston

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

While we're all talking of Uncharted: I dislike many aspects of them.

The platforming sections are quite dull in their linearity (since you don't have many options beyond "hold DIRECTION until you need to press JUMP"), and their length pales in comparison to the endless, neverending SHOOTING.

I can't even remember how many humans I killed over the course of the games I finished (1+3), but it was definitely in the hundreds.
And honestly, after the first few dozen, it becomes very samey and dull: walk into area, find some cover, shoot until there's 1-2 guys left and punch him in the face.
Also I started to question whether I was even a "hero" (since the heroes I know don't kill THIS often) but the story wants me to know I'm very definitely the "good guy".

In contrast, I remember every kill from Shadow of the Colossus, because every encounter was grandiose and meaningful. And some of them definitely felt wrong, but the game didn't try to impress on me that I was a hero: I was a selfish boy, and I got what I deserved.

Morality was never high on my list of priorities while playing any Uncharted game. I take it for what it is: a fun, action filled game where I'm the good guy and the fate of the villains doesn't overly concern me.

There's more than enough games out there these days that make you question your actions, Uncharted has never been about that really and that doesn't bother me.

tok9

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-13-its-time-for-your-latest-update-on-the-last-guardian-again

AWOL PlayStation exclusive The Last Guardian didn't turn up during Sony's Gamescom press conference this week. Were we expecting it? Perhaps not.

But we had hoped for the Team Ico title to perhaps show up at the Tokyo Game Show in September 2014.

Alas, it doesn't sound like it'll be there, either.

"Will we see it at Tokyo Game Show?" we asked Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida in an interview today.

"I don't think so," was his response. "Sorry."

When will we see it?

"When we are ready. I cannot confirm any timing because we are waiting for it to be in a state where we are happy that this is the game. We have a certain time frame in our mind, and the team is making great progress, but still not to the point that we can say that, here you go."

Xenji

tok9 wrote: »

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-13-its-time-for-your-latest-update-on-the-last-guardian-again

Well at least it has not been shelved, and they are making progress, slow painstaking progress, but progress none the less.

Otacon

Xenji wrote: »

Well at least it has not been shelved, and they are making progress, slow painstaking progress, but progress none the less.