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Open shoot in midlands.

  • 14-03-2011 10:30pm
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    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    MNSCI Sporting/Hunting Rifle Shoot



    The Midlands National Shooting centre of Ireland are holding an open gallery rifle competition on the 27th March. This is an open competition so all are welcome. The shoot will be for rimfire and centrefire rifles of any make, model, caliber, and design. Entrants must register in the club house prior to shooting/traveling to the windmill range, and the appropriate licenses and proof of insurance must be shown.

    All entrants should be on the windmill range for 10:20am and the first detail will start at 10:30am. Registration for the competition will be open until 12 noon, to accomodate those that cannot make the early start. A Range Officer will be in the club house and there will be cease fires every 20 minutes to allow people to travel to and from the windmill range.

    Entry fee is €10 per competitor. Re-entrance will depend upon turnout so if there is time you can re-enter either with the same caiber or another if you so wish.

    As before you may use any caliber, any sights, moderators, etc. Bipod, front sand bag, etc will be allowed, but absolutely NO FRONT RESTS, and no back bags. So again if you use it in the field you can use it here. All shots will be from the prone position at 100yds.

    The priliminary course of fire will be :

    4-6 shooters per detail. Your course of fire will be divided into 2 details to be fired at different times. First detail:
    • 4 shots at the deer target.
    • 2-3 minute reload time.
    • 4 more shots at the deer target.

    Those in the group that just fired will then come off the firing line, and have the opportunity to relax, let the rifles "rest" while another group does their first detail. Then the group in the first detail will return to the firing line and complete their second detail:
    • 4 shots at the deer target
    • 2-3 minute reload time
    • 4 shots at the deer target.

    This format will continue through all the groups of shooters. Total amount of shots will be 16 (spilt into two details of 8). It was decided to reduce the number of shots to 4 at a time to make it fair to lads that only have 4 shot rifles.

    The exact target, number of them and style that they will be exposed will be posted on Sunday night/Monday morning both here and on the MNSCI website. The lads always like to try out the targets before confirming.

    All this is in preperation for the "Big Shoot" on the 8th of May. The competition then will consist of a mixture of all the shoots so far and to come. The prizes on the 8th of May will reflect the size of the competition, but you'll hear more about that the closer we get to the day. ;)

    Should be a great day and will give you all a chance to see what the comp on the 8th May "may" have instore for you. Hope to see you all there.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    Does anyone know if the open shoot is going ahead in mdlands on the 27th.

    Just wondering as there has bin no post about it.
    I'm looking forward to getting up there again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭meathshooter1


    AFAIK it is going ahead haven't heard anything to say it isn't.I think the format is slightly different to the last one but I'm sure it will be a great day to be had by all


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    My apologies lads. I though i had this posted in the Upcoming Events thread, but i hadn't actually. I have merged a copy of the post on the Up/Coming thread with this thread to save starting a new thread.

    Sorry again. :o

    Ez.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    I'd be interested. Couple of finicky question, if someone might be kind enough to answer.
    What kind of sizes are we talking on this deer target? Is it kinda smaller concentric circles in the vital area?
    And is there a time limit on each 4 shots?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Deer target is life size.

    Scoring rings in the form of concentric circles around the heart area. Anywhere else will not score.

    Shots will be timed. Roughly 3 seconds per exposure. So you will be down, on target, the target will "appear", stay for 3 seconds, then be removed. This will occur for 4 shots. Reload, then repeat. A break while another group does their first detail, then back for your second detail with 4 + 4 shots.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    Idiot proof Ez, cheers :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    If you dont take your shot while on the detail will you be able to take it again like the previous competition?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Unless you have a mechanical issue with your rifle or something similar no.

    Hence the reason this comp will be shot with 4 rounds at a time. The biggest issue the last time was with 5 shots some lads had to manually load an extra round. Most rifle will accomodate 4 rounds though so there should be no real issues.

    It will be up to the ROs at the end of the day, but as its meant to be a deer/field type shoot constantly giving lads chance after chance is unfair to those that fire first time around.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    What Calibre won the last one in Centrefire?

    I know who won it, Don't know what he shoots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    Are all the shots stationary or will there be moving shots?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Shooters are stationary, the targets are ....................................... :p












    (You don't think i'm going to give it all away. There has to be some surprise :D)
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    What Calibre won the last one in Centrefire?

    I know who won it, Don't know what he shoots.

    He was using his wife's .243


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    He was using his wife's .243

    I remember now ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭tfox


    I'm assuming that it's an "open" competition, as in open to non-members....?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    tfox wrote: »
    I'm assuming that it's an "open" competition, as in open to non-members....?

    yes open to anyone with a rifle of any type with a license and insurance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Should hopefully make this. Just need to check zero. Will there be an opportunity after the shoot to go back up to the covered range and return zero to 200 yards?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Should hopefully make this. Just need to check zero. Will there be an opportunity after the shoot to go back up to the covered range and return zero to 200 yards?

    Yes. Especially if you are one of the first competitors and are just waiting on the results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Yes. Especially if you are one of the first competitors and are just waiting on the results.
    Tack, any chance you could stop replying on behalf of the Midlands club until after you're the range officer or an organiser for the shoot? You have no idea if what IWM wants to do is okay by the RO or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Sparks wrote: »
    Tack, any chance you could stop replying on behalf of the Midlands club until after you're the range officer or an organiser for the shoot? You have no idea if what IWM wants to do is okay by the RO or not.

    I actually do know it is ok.

    The Range has CEASFIRES.
    When a ceasefire is on a person is allowed to leave the windmill range, to go home, to go to the toilet to chat a few mates in the club house; whatever.

    From there, The Shooter in question can shoot on the enclosed range when that range is live (Once he has notified the RO of the enclosed range that he has already shown his documentation as registeration for the OPEN Shoot). although the enclosed range is 200 Metres........

    However, a .25-06 is only a few clicks at that distance anyway.

    If IWM wants to shoot @100 he just dials his scope 6 clicks low and when he leaves dials it back up.

    there will be an oppertunity to Zero, as in All competitions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭clivej


    I actually do know it is ok.

    The Range has CEASFIRES.
    When a ceasefire is on a person is allowed to leave the windmill range, to go home, to go to the toilet to chat a few mates in the club house; whatever.

    From there, The Shooter in question can shoot on the enclosed range when that range is live (Once he has notified the RO of the enclosed range that he has already shown his documentation as registeration for the OPEN Shoot). although the enclosed range is 200 Metres........

    However, a .25-06 is only a few clicks at that distance anyway.

    If IWM wants to shoot @100 he just dials his scope 6 clicks low and when he leaves dials it back up.

    there will be an oppertunity to Zero, as in All competitions.

    AFAIK and as you now seem to be the spokes-man for the range here's where you have it wrong for Dave to shoot at the Midlands.

    First off he must be signed in by a member for him to shoot. So just entering a competition will no allow him to shoot freely.

    I'll sign you in Dave me auld buddy. :D

    Be accopanied by the said member and accompanied whilst he shoots. But then you ALREADY KNEW THAT DIDN'T YOU. :rolleyes:

    And the covered ranged is 50m x2 for rimfire only, 100m, 200y and 300m

    When your gona bullsh!te do it right willya..............


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Cheers clive. Don't get enough chances to get out and fire a few zeroing shots, so when I'm there, I'd like to get back to my usual zero before I leave, you know yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    I am not a spokesperson for anything, place or person.
    Mountains are being made out of molehills here.

    Simple question.
    Can IWM rezero?
    Simple answer yes.
    End of message.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Simple answer yes.
    No, the simple answer was that you don't know and shouldn't have said yes on MNSCI's behalf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Sparks wrote: »
    No, the simple answer was that you don't know and shouldn't have said yes on MNSCI's behalf.

    Sparks

    I do Know, as I had asked an RO.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    I hate to inerupt the usual bullying session ye guys regularly take part in. All I can offer here is my experience of the last open shoot.
    And bare in mind that I am not a member of midlands and it was my first time shooting there.

    On arriving to midlands you must sign in and show relevant paperwork.

    You are. Or should I say I was then afforded the opportunity to check my 100y 0 on the range behind the club house. (first time there I don't know the names of the different ranges).

    When the time comes to go to the "windmill range". It will be announced.

    I then proceeded to my jeep and qued up for the drive over to said range.

    Long story short. Comp was great crack. Good to meet all ye lads.

    After each firing session the range officer allowed people to come or go from range.

    Now his is the relevant bit. When I went back to the club house I was speaking to someone about their rifle and went out to the range behind the club house where people were shooting.
    I was asked if I wanted to shoot by the RO. But I didn't as I was happy with my 0 as it was.

    In short. I as a non member was able to shoot before the comp and was asked but I declined if I wanted to shoot after the comp in the range behind the club house which I assume is the enclosed range.

    So I would say to IWM. Yes in my experience you will be allowed to re zero your rifle before and after the comp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭clivej


    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    I hate to inerupt the usual bullying session ye guys regularly take part in. All I can offer here is my experience of the last open shoot.
    And bare in mind that I am not a member of midlands and it was my first time shooting there.

    On arriving to midlands you must sign in and show relevant paperwork.

    You are. Or should I say I was then afforded the opportunity to check my 100y 0 on the range behind the club house. (first time there I don't know the names of the different ranges).

    When the time comes to go to the "windmill range". It will be announced.

    I then proceeded to my jeep and qued up for the drive over to said range.

    Long story short. Comp was great crack. Good to meet all ye lads.

    After each firing session the range officer allowed people to come or go from range.

    Now his is the relevant bit. When I went back to the club house I was speaking to someone about their rifle and went out to the range behind the club house where people were shooting.
    I was asked if I wanted to shoot by the RO. But I didn't as I was happy with my 0 as it was.

    In short. I as a non member was able to shoot before the comp and was asked but I declined if I wanted to shoot after the comp in the range behind the club house which I assume is the enclosed range.

    So I would say to IWM. Yes in my experience you will be allowed to re zero your rifle before and after the comp.

    Your correct about that and thanks for the input. :)

    Poulo we all knew that (those of us that are members of the midlands) but we needed to have a bitch fight as well. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    May I also say that I was very impressed with the range set up and now I have to find an excuse not to join


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭clivej


    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    May I also say that I was very impressed with the range set up and now I have to find an excuse not to join

    Well you can't say it's too far to travel 'cos I'm on the way and we'll double up. Offers there for next weekend as well, sure you knew that anyway;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    As a side note the covered range is AFAIK: 50yrds, 100yrds, 200yrds and 300 metres.
    Not 50, 100, 200 & 300 metres as previously stated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭clivej


    As a side note the covered range is AFAIK: 50yrds, 100yrds, 200yrds and 300 metres.
    Not 50, 100, 200 & 300 metres as previously stated

    I ranged it at 109y, 201y and 330y. Must check it again next time I have the finder with me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Facilities for the Range

    • 50 Bay sheltered firing line with targets at 50, 100, 200 and 300 meters.
    • 100 to 600 yard range with Target Butts system.
    • 800, 900, 1,000 yard range with Target Butts system.
    • Pistol Range from 10 to 25 meters.
    • Sporting Clay Pigeon.

    Facilities for Visitors

    • Wheelchair accessable shooting bays.
    • Wheelchair accessable toilets.
    • Competency Courses.
    • Technical Advice on all aspects of Firearms.
    • Advice on Licensing.
    • Shooting accessories available for purchase.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    Facilities for the Range

    • 50 Bay sheltered firing line with targets at 50, 100, 200 and 300 meters.
    • 100 to 600 yard range with Target Butts system.
    • 800, 900, 1,000 yard range with Target Butts system.
    • Pistol Range from 10 to 25 meters.
    • Sporting Clay Pigeon.

    Facilities for Visitors

    • Wheelchair accessable shooting bays.
    • Wheelchair accessable toilets.
    • Competency Courses.
    • Technical Advice on all aspects of Firearms.
    • Advice on Licensing.
    • Shooting accessories available for purchase.


    Range it Tack next time your there, the figures Clive posted are spot on.
    the 200 is definitly 200 yrds and the 300 is definitly 300 mtrs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Range it Tack next time your there, the figures Clive posted are spot on.
    the 200 is definitly 200 yrds and the 300 is definitly 300 mtrs

    The info I gave was from the website, today and yesterday.

    Although the enclosed Range has not moved the backstops have been changed around in the past few years as the Windmill was constructed and progressed.

    I have never used a range finder on it so I can't prove or disprove what the Official range is.

    I will say that it was measured originally with a Tape not a range finder.(although they checked with a range finder.Most range finders are +/- m or yard accuracy only calibrated)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    The info I gave was from the website, today and yesterday.

    Although the enclosed Range has not moved the backstops have been changed around in the past few years as the Windmill was constructed and progressed.

    I have never used a range finder on it so I can't prove or disprove what the Official range is.

    I will say that it was measured originally with a Tape not a range finder.(although they checked with a range finder.Most range finders are +/- m or yard accuracy only calibrated)


    Ill see you up there next sunday and we will ''pace out'' the fu(kers):D


    Actually, do you know what. its a lovely day outside,,,, what the fek are we doing indoors on a computer..., im off out to flatten a few greys!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Ill see you up there next sunday and we will ''pace out'' the fu(kers):D


    Actually, do you know what. its a lovely day outside,,,, what the fek are we doing indoors on a computer..., im off out to flatten a few greys!

    Dev11 finishes work@ 2pm and we are off out after similar :D

    Happy Hunting !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭mixerbarcoe


    just wondering is this open to spectators was thinking of heading up on sunday to have a look..


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Of course. :cool:
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    just wondering is this open to spectators was thinking of heading up on sunday to have a look..

    Carpool with Clivej! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Ezridax wrote: »
    Of course. :cool:

    Awesome, got a Tullamore native from DURC to show around the place. (Hint: You might have a potential member there. ;))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭mixerbarcoe


    Carpool with Clivej! :D

    i was always told never take lifts off of strangers haha.. ah no good idea der tack but if i am going ill prob have the gf with me she been nagging about going off for a drive on sundays so it will kill 2 birds with the one stone haha :D...


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Okay the full details are up on the MNSCI website. Including the targets being used. All futher shoots of this nature will fall under the new title of S.T.A.G.S. (get it, stags - ............................... i'll get my coat. :D)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Don't forget Clocks go forward Sat night.

    So get tpo be early as you will be up an hour early
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    Just got a few extra details off Jim about the shoot.
    I is going to be great craic and I think could be abit tricky with the 3 second exposure! (Ezridax will know what I mean ;))

    Can't wait now for the laugh and the chat.

    PS bring sun cream :D:D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I don't know what you mean. :confused:














    Its not like i was over during the week, rechecking zero, sneaking a look at the targets or anything. :p
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    Ezridax wrote: »
    I don't know what you mean. :confused:

    Its not like i was over during the week, rechecking zero, sneaking a look at the targets or anything. :p

    Ezri I would even had implied that till you said it :p

    It's gonna be a great comp and will be loads of fun acquiring the target ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    I can't wait, hope the weather holds.

    Been beautiful the last few days while I was cooped up in work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    I can't wait, hope the weather holds.

    Been beautiful the last few days while I was cooped up in work

    Always the way.
    The sun beating down the door when working.
    Looming forward to shoot on Sunday now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Comeraghshooter


    Hey lads

    I'm going to be up in Offaly this weekend and was thinking about going to the shoot on Sunday.
    I'm not a member so is it possible to just go as a spectator and if so what are the rules??

    Thanks
    CS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Bring your rifle/s, licence/s for same and insurance eg IFA,CAI or NARGC and you can shoot in competition too :)

    If you are a spectator advise lads/ladies in office and I'm sure you'll get a guided tour ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Comeraghshooter


    Bring your rifle/s, licence/s for same and insurance eg IFA,CAI or NARGC and you can shoot in competition too :)

    If you are a spectator advise lads/ladies in office and I'm sure you'll get a guided tour ;)

    Thanks Bunny Shooter,
    I wont be able to bring my rifle this time so im just going to go for a look.
    So is it just a case of turning up and walking into the event.
    I presume you bring your own hearing protection?

    Sorry for all the questions just haven't been to an event like this before.


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