CHELTENHAM - DAY 4: Friday 18th March

thewools

All DAY 4 tips/selections etc to be posted here.

• 1:30 JCB Triumph Hurdle: Grade 1 Cl1 2m1f
• 2:05 Vincent O´Brien County Handicap Hurdle: Grade 3 Cl1 2m1f
• 2:40 Albert Bartlett Novices´ Hurdle (Registered As The Spa Novices´ Hurdle Race): Grade 1 Cl1 3m
• 3:20 totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase: Grade 1 Cl1 3m2f110y
• 4:00 Christie´s Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup: Cl2 3m2f110y
• 4:40 Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys´ Handicap Hurdle: Cl2 2m4f110y
• 5:15 Johnny Henderson Grand Annual Chase Challenge Cup (Handicap): Grade 3 Cl1 2m110y

Here's To Hoping :cool:

mike65

If you thought today was tricky...

1:30 Unaccompanied
2:05 Alarazi
2:40 Mossley
3:20 Imperial Commander (mainly for old times sake)
4:00 Baby Run
4:40 Qaspal
5:15 Anquetta

Nulty

mike65 wrote: »

If you thought today was tricky...

1:30 Unaccompanied
2:05 Alarazi
2:40 Mossley
3:20 Imperial Commander (mainly for old times sake)
4:00 Baby Run
4:40 Qaspal
5:15 Anquetta

Don't you want to see how much rain falls, if any?

HigginsJ

JCB Triumph Hurdle - Smad Place, Zarkandar, Unaccompanied (all antepost)
Vincent O´Brien County Handicap Hurdle - Alaivan
Albert Bartlett Novices´ Hurdle - Kilcrea Kim
Totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase - Kauto Star
Christie´s Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup - Baby Run
Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys´ Hurdle - Shoegazer
Johnny Henderson Grand Annual - Shoreacres

All again are backed e/w (apart from Baby Run)

Shoegazer is backed as the trainer/jockey did me good turn as the brilliant Buena Vista won again today. Had Shoreacres in the Bumper few years back and the supreme novices the year after.

And finally Kauto Star, who else, why back anything else when you can back the greatest chaser for a generation!

mike65

Nulty wrote: »

Don't you want to see how much rain falls, if any?

Its looks like it'll be a few mills only.

Nulty

0mm - 8mm

Dermot Weld says he'll pull Unaccompanied if theres not enough cut. He might be tempted to let her take her chance even with the ground not in her favour. Worst place to be as a punter.

Unless at least 8mm falls over night I don't want to see Pandorama line up.

HigginsJ

If you were owner of a horse like Pandorama would you really pull it. Would be a gut wrenching thing to do considering you have been waiting years for a live Gold Cup chance.

If the horse is fit and well you'd have to take your shot. You may never be back again.

Nulty

There is a line. Noel Meades line is on the cautious side. He's already worried about the horses inexperience over fences so another year under his belt wouldn't harm him chances.

I'm not sure what I'd do if I were the owner. I think I'd be cautious of the horses well being and longevity, though its hard to say.

HigginsJ

If it were a race outside Cheltenham it would be an easy enough decision. However Gold Cup at Cheltenham.

You could have 1000 horses who would never get near the thing with a realistic chance.

amiable

In the fringe in the Foxhunter lads tomorrow all day long:D

TheQueen

I will be putting half of my weeks profits on Kempes tomorrow and it will be the story I will bore my grandchildren with in years to come.

Vain

amiable wrote: »

In the fringe in the Foxhunter lads tomorrow all day long:D

Is that a tip:D

jive

1.30
High Ransom @ 100/1 (3 places)


2.05
Nearby @ 66/1 (5 places)
Tarkari @ 50/1 (5 places)


2.40
Our island @ 28/1 (3 places)


3.20
Kauto star @ 10/1 (3 places) - ante post bet


4.00
Jaunty Flight @ 20/1 (3 places)


4.40
Hollins @ 28/1 (5 places)
Barizan @ 25/1 (5 places)
Astracad @ 33/1 (4 places)


5:15
Oh crick @ 10/1 (4 places)
Anquetta @ 9/1 (4 places)


Lucky 15
1.30 -> Zarkander @ 7/1 (3 places)
2.05 -> Final Approach @ 12/1 (5 places)
2.40 -> Kilcrea Kim @ 9/1 (3 places)
4.00 -> Baby Run @ 7/2 (4 places)

all e/w

Leroy Lita

1:30 Unaccompanied e/w
2:05 Pidgeon Island e/w
5:15 Get Me Out Of Here e/w

taughts?

brianthebard

TheQueen wrote: »

I will be putting half of my weeks profits on Kempes tomorrow and it will be the story I will bore my grandchildren with in years to come.

Glad someone else is backing kempes! Very much in with a chance imo.

porterbelly

1.30 Sam Winner

5.15 De Boitron ew

Still deciding on other races, thinking about Kempes but if it rains any way significantly tomorrow I'll be on Long Run

amiable

Vain wrote: »

Is that a tip:D

Yes it is

amiable

IMO its a very poor Gold Cup tomorrow.
There's a case to be made for a good few of the runners

Mr.Conners

I would find it very difficult to oppose Sam Winner tomorrow in the 1:30.

He has a course & distance win, including another at Cheltenham over Grandouet with virtually the same distance as tomorrrow. I would discard his recent 4th place as it was on terrible ground, there will be a bit of cut tomorrow if the rain falls and that will suit him perfectly.

I had a nip at 10's last week and have gone in a bit heavier now at 6's. Price seems to be dropping and I suspect it will be 5's tomorrow once the Ruby backers get on.

I fancy Long Run and Kempes in the Gold Cup, only thing worrying me about Kempes is I'm not sure how he will handle the pace of it. I will probably give him a miss for that reason and have an e/w with Long Run. An open race all the same but can't see the winner coming from Kauto Star, Denman or Imperial Commander.

Good luck to all

Mr.Conners

Pandorama followers have got their wish, the skies have opened above Cheltenham.

amiable

Mr.Conners wrote: »

Pandorama followers have got their wish, the skies have opened above Cheltenham.

Source?

Nulty

Drizzle only from what I've heard.

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

Mr.Conners

amiable wrote: »

Source?

Its from a friend who is over there, it was definitely raining within the last half hour, said it had started around 10:30 pm.

amiable

Nulty wrote: »

Drizzle only from what I've heard.

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

That's what i heard too and my source was very intoxicated i do believe

amiable

Mr.Conners wrote: »

Its from a friend who is over there, it was definitely raining within the last half hour, said it had started around 10:30 pm.

is he as drunk as my friend?

Nulty

BBC calling heavy rain in the early morning. No point in worrying about it. Either it happens or it doesn't.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174

Mr.Conners

amiable wrote: »

is he as drunk as my friend?

Possibly, he did seem very enthusiastic over the rain. There will have to be more over night for it to change the ground obviously but after a hot day it is a good sign for those who want soft ground.

COB_here

Other than Pandorama what horses will like the news of rain?

porterbelly

COB_here wrote: »

Other than Pandorama what horses will like the news of rain?

Denman

Mr.Conners

COB_here wrote: »

Other than Pandorama what horses will like the news of rain?

Unaccompanied in the 1:30 would like it soft, but if it doesn't rain too heavily and the going is good-to-soft than that is perfect for Sam Winner.

COB_here

I do like the look of Sam winner in the first, hopefully get Friday off to a good one.

RichieLawlor

Leroy Lita wrote: »

1:30 Unaccompanied e/w
2:05 Pidgeon Island e/w
5:15 Get Me Out Of Here e/w

taughts?

My THOUGHTS are.

Unaccompanied won't like the ground and may not run.

Pidgeon Island definitely won't run in the 2.05 ( County Hurdle )

Get me out of here definitely won't run in the 5.15 ( Grand Annual )

amiable

Mr.Conners wrote: »

Possibly, he did seem very enthusiastic over the rain. There will have to be more over night for it to change the ground obviously but after a hot day it is a good sign for those who want soft ground.

Turns out your friend was very drunk indeed and probably having a shower to sober up.:D
Chase course has dried up a little and is now Good all round

mike65

Imperial on the drift 5.50 now

amiable

Has someone got a source to where Dermot Weld says Unaccompanied needs soft ground?
I see he's run and won on Good ground on the flat

TanG411

€5 Placepot

1:30 - Grandouet
2:05 - Final Approach
2:40 - Bobs Worth
3:20 - Kauto Star
4:00 - Just Amazing
4:40 - Sir Des Champs

Never looked at the final race because the placepot only covers the first six.

Name Changed

Did anyone hear the big tip that Leon Blanch gave on Newstalk this morning?

shawty

Gold Cup (3.20)

€50 each way on Weird Al at 25/1



And €40 each way on the following:

1.30 Unaccompanied at 13/2

2.05 Zanir at 33/1

2.40 Gagewell Flyer at 10/1

4.40 Rose of the Moon at 20/1

5.15 Shoreacres at 8/1

Onecoolcookie

Name Changed wrote: »

Did anyone hear the big tip that Leon Blanch gave on Newstalk this morning?

Missed this aswell anyone hear it?

Have a strong fancy for Blackstairmountain in the 2.05, nice price too I got 20's last night

Soarer

Right lads.

Don't mind yere tips...I need absolute e/w bankers for today. Something to cushion the blow from Wednesday (took yesterday off!).

What ye think?

mike65

What time are the tips given out, you can play back todays show here
http://www.newstalk.ie/programmes/all/breakfast/listen-back/

amiable

Soarer wrote: »

Right lads.

Don't mind yere tips...I need absolute e/w bankers for today. Something to cushion the blow from Wednesday (took yesterday off!).

What ye think?

And yesterday was the day where we all made money:D

S. Goodspeed

Onecoolcookie wrote: »

Missed this aswell anyone hear it?

Have a strong fancy for Blackstairmountain in the 2.05, nice price too I got 20's last night

It was Sam Winner in the first. 6/1 with PP at the moment.

I've a lot riding on Thrid Intention in that one so I'm hoping Yates/Blanche are wrong again!

amiable

mike65 wrote: »

What time are the tips given out, you can play back todays show here
http://www.newstalk.ie/programmes/all/breakfast/listen-back/

It was Sam Winner that Leon Blanche tipped in the first

mike65

Here are Leon Blanch tips today

1.30 Sam Winner
2.40 Gagewell Flyer
3.20 Long Run
4.00 Baby Run

amiable

mike65 wrote: »

Here are Leon Blanch tips today

1.30 Sam Winner
2.40 Gagewell Flyer
3.20 Long Run
4.00 Baby Run

Nice of the bookie to deflect away from On the fringe:D

Dublin_Gunner

amiable wrote: »

Nice of the bookie to deflect away from On the fringe:D

They're same odds now on PP

brandon_flowers

CHELTENHAM 5:15 GRAND ANNUAL HANDICAP CHASE 2m 1/2f
18-03-2011 17:15
Win or E/W
Each Way Odds: 1/4 places 1,2,3,4
De Boitron @ 8/1 (GP)

CHELTENHAM 4:40 MARTIN PIPE HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 4 1/2f
18-03-2011 16:40
Win or E/W
Each Way Odds: 1/4 places 1,2,3,4
Sir Des Champs @ 4/1 (GP)

CHELTENHAM 4:00 FOXHUNTER CHASE CHALLENGE CUP 3m 2 1/2f
18-03-2011 16:00
Win or E/W
Each Way Odds: 1/4 places 1,2,3
Oscar Delta @ 20/1 (GP)

CHELTENHAM 2:40 ALBERT BARTLETT NOVICES' HURDLE 3m
18-03-2011 14:40
Win or E/W
Each Way Odds: 1/4 places 1,2,3
Kilcrea Kim @ 9/1 (GP)

CHELTENHAM 2:05 VINCENT O'BRIEN COUNTY HURDLE 2m 1f
18-03-2011 14:05
Win or E/W
Each Way Odds: 1/4 places 1,2,3,4,5
Alaivan @ 8/1 (GP)

CHELTENHAM 1:30 JCB TRIUMPH HURDLE 2m 1f
18-03-2011 13:30
Win or E/W
Each Way Odds: 1/4 places 1,2,3
Unaccompanied @ 6/1 (GP)

And 200 e/w on Kauto Star. The horse owes me nothing. If he jumps around he has every chance.

Dickerty

Ok, i've gone with -

1.30 Sam Winner @ 6/1
2.10 Final Approach @ 10/1
2.40 Gagewell Flyer e/w @ 9/1
3.20 Long Run @ 9/2
4.00 Baby Run @ 7/2
4.40 Sir De Champs @ 4/1
5.15 Shoreacres @ 7/1

Last day, I figure i'll play on the nose more - if none of them come in, I'll be back where I started on Tuesday. No harm no foul!

mike65

From racing post -

Bad news for Denman fans - the ground will almost certainly not be soft for the Gold Cup this afternoon.

Clerk of the course Simon Claisse said: "We had very little rain overnight, it was barely measurable.

"It is good all round on the chase course.

"We may get a little bit of rain between now and midday but I don't think it will be enough to change the going."

2qk4u

Ill have a go with -

1.30 Sam Winner @ 6/1
2.10 Blackstairmountain @ 12/1
2.40 Gagewell Flyer @ 9/1
3.20 Long Run @ 9/2
4.00 Dantes Storm @ 8/1
4.40 Sir Des Champs @ 4/1
5.15 Shoreacres @ 7/1