HAARP Caused Japan Earthquake Tsunami 2011

Capt'n Midnight

It's all over the interweb,

and tbh it's smacks of people not understanding that "the core" was just a film

but I must say I don't like the way HAARP mess around with the Aurora as in Northern lights, not the spy plane.

namloc1980

Disgusting post. "The Core" was one of the worst movies ever produced. If this had happened anywhere else it would have been much much worse. Japan is the most prepared place on Earth to deal with earthquakes.

Overheal

namloc1980 wrote: »

Disgusting post. "The Core" was one of the worst movies ever produced.

Fact.

Penn

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dlofnep

Did anybody read the supermoon theory? The basis was that because the moon is so close to the earth at the moment, it has more of a gravitational effect on the tectonic plates. I didn't read too much into it to be honest, but I'm not really qualified to comment on how valid it might be as a theory.

The suggestion was that at every period where a supermoon occurs, a huge natural disaster occurs. In this case, the Japan earthquake.

Regarding HAARP - Is there any evidence to suggest that tinkering with the ionosphere has an effect on the tectonic plates?

Lefticus Loonaticus

If haarp was to blame, then surely there should be some beneficial reason for which it has been used. Beneficial to America and its interests....? So far out of this they are just going to get a load of radiation poisoning on their west coast.

Maybe the reason people go mad about haarp is because its just an internet psy-op to make the world believe that America is somhow involved and/or relevent to world events.

However, if it is true, then I would not doubt their ability to abuse such a power.

iPlop

Rumours of tectonic weapons are nothing new ,it's been claimed the US has such weapons for a long time ,Chevez said he had info on them ,but weather he did or not is another thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9QtZkT8OBQ

They also say HAARP messes with cloud formations and create's colours in the sky before it's deployed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iouB9Tov0gs

Apparently the whole sky lights up subtlety ,Id imagine there would be more witnesses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vf7JK3LcU

If the US possess such a weapon ,I cannot imagine why it would be used in Japan or China for that matter, all the major US electronics manufactures are based in China.

My name is URL

I don't believe the earthquake has anything to do with HAARP or any other CT

This might be interesting to some however (pdf) - http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+REPORT+A4-1999-0005+0+DOC+PDF+V0//EN

Search the document for mentions of HAARP.

dlofnep

dlofnep wrote: »

Did anybody read the supermoon theory? The basis was that because the moon is so close to the earth at the moment, it has more of a gravitational effect on the tectonic plates. I didn't read too much into it to be honest, but I'm not really qualified to comment on how valid it might be as a theory.

The suggestion was that at every period where a supermoon occurs, a huge natural disaster occurs. In this case, the Japan earthquake.

It's absolute nonsense.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/11/no-the-supermoon-didnt-cause-the-japanese-earthquake/

dlofnep wrote: »

Regarding HAARP - Is there any evidence to suggest that tinkering with the ionosphere has an effect on the tectonic plates?

None whatsoever.

Fighting Irish

namloc1980 wrote: »

Disgusting post. "The Core" was one of the worst movies ever produced. If this had happened anywhere else it would have been much much worse. Japan is the most prepared place on Earth to deal with earthquakes.

You've obviously never seen Titanic 2

dlofnep

Cheers King Mob

Gator

Beautiful....Was just thinking to myself last night about somone starting a conspiracy about the earthquake and said I must look here and hey presto!

Seriously though. what are these guys on

David Matthew

Gator wrote: »

Seriously though. what are these guys on

Now that these large-scale frequency/vibration based technologies are becoming more well-known, there will be dedicated groups all over the internet who will push the idea that every major earthquake which occurs, does so at the instigation of HAARP.

Haiti was no different. Apparently there was an American agenda to reduce this already poverty-stricken nation to rubble. Personally I find it incredibly far-fetched, to say the least.

Pixel8

A youtube user called Astrotometry has been studying and measuring the Suns connection to Earth and he has reached the conclusion that Solar Flares from the Sun have a direct influence on Earth 2 to 3 days after a Solar Flare, they are the main cause of earthquakes on this planet. He predicted the Haiti earthquake last year using data from the Sun a couple of days before it happened.

There were 5 M-Class solar flares just a few days ago which means more earthquakes are coming shortly.

Monty Burnz

Pixel8 wrote: »

A youtube user called Astrotometry has been studying and measuring the Suns connection to Earth and he has reached the conclusion that Solar Flares from the Sun have a direct influence on Earth 2 to 3 days after a Solar Flare, they are the main cause of earthquakes on this planet. He predicted the Haiti earthquake last year using data from the Sun a couple of days before it happened.

There were 5 M-Class solar flares just a few days ago which means more earthquakes are coming shortly.

Has this guy on Youtube taken his findings to any serious scientists, or published his findings in a journal? It would add a lot of weight to his claims if he did.

Edit: did a quick Google to find out about the guy's scientific background, and it came across this: http://paganviewpoint.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/astrotometry-its-implications-and-possibilities/

John Thomas Bryant Jr., who will someday be remembered as the father of astrotometry, (a new science with a holistic viewpoint) may be just the man to save many lives in the coming years.

http://spaceports.blogspot.com/2010/10/astrotometry-is-this-valid-science.html

Based on his Youtube channel...the bull**** detector is blowing up.

I can't find anything about his science education or pedigree, so I'm wondering does he have one at all.

amacachi

dlofnep wrote: »

Did anybody read the supermoon theory? The basis was that because the moon is so close to the earth at the moment, it has more of a gravitational effect on the tectonic plates. I didn't read too much into it to be honest, but I'm not really qualified to comment on how valid it might be as a theory.

The suggestion was that at every period where a supermoon occurs, a huge natural disaster occurs. In this case, the Japan earthquake.

Regarding HAARP - Is there any evidence to suggest that tinkering with the ionosphere has an effect on the tectonic plates?

The difference in gravity will be tiny, without doing the maths I'm going to guess that there's a bigger difference in gravity between the poles and the equator (due to the shape of the earth) than the difference caused by the moon being slightly closer. Might work it out tomorrow if I get bored.

MRPRO03

The Incredible Fridge wrote: »

Apparently the whole sky lights up subtlety ,Id imagine there would be more witnesses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vf7JK3LcU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_light

Mahatma coat

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Has this guy on Youtube taken his findings to any serious scientists, or published his findings in a journal? It would add a lot of weight to his claims if he did.

I dunno, I think that reading his claims and then objectivley examining the results is not the exclusive domain of science journals, you are free to examine his claims and see what you can make of it Too.

Edit: did a quick Google to find out about the guy's scientific background, and it came across this: http://paganviewpoint.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/astrotometry-its-implications-and-possibilities/

What do you dispute???

John views the universe as being not only connected, but essentially one thing. And, applying science in a profoundly novel way, he has come to study the Sun’s effect on the Earth in more ways than just heat, magnetics and electrical phenomena. He’s still working the timing and placement out, but he’s getting closer to being able to predict things like earthquakes, storms, tsunamis and more using astrotometry as his tool.

http://spaceports.blogspot.com/2010/10/astrotometry-is-this-valid-science.html


I can't find anything about his science education or pedigree, so I'm wondering does he have one at all.

What does it matter if you can or cant find out anything about the guys Science Backround, what you can find out about is his theory, and really thats the only thing I would judge him on.

Pixel8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDgJ0zDxqDE

old_aussie

The Americans used HAARP to cause the earthquake off the coast of Japan as a decoy so no one would notice the real HAARP test to cause a volcanic eruption in Russia.

Monty Burnz

Mahatma coat wrote: »

What does it matter if you can or cant find out anything about the guys Science Backround, what you can find out about is his theory, and really thats the only thing I would judge him on.

Well, the guy is proposing a revolution in physics. I did LC physics, but I'm not exactly up to speed on quantum theory beyond the basics, so I can't really comment in great depth as to whether his ideas make sense. I don't know what level of physics background you have when you are judging the guy's ideas, but I don't feel competent to judge because brilliant insights may sound like total madness when we get into advanced physics.

On the other hand, you would imagine that his ideas would catch the attention of physics researchers, guys who have devoted their lives to understanding this stuff. If his ideas hold any water, it seems odd that he has not convinced a bona fide physics researcher to team up with him, as it would make the physics researcher in question world-famous and surely bag them a Nobel Prize for totally revolutionising the field.

So I think the evidence points to it either being a bit too early for him to have persuaded anyone, or to have published papers in a peer-reviewed journal, or else he has tried to persuade experts of his case or publish but the experts can see that his ideas are total nonsense.

Time will tell.

Fozzydog3

Is the HAARP the pacific ring of fire by any chance ? I mean its one of the most earthquake ready countries for a reason

fontanalis

Fozzydog3 wrote: »

Is the HAARP the pacific ring of fire by any chance ? I mean its one of the most earthquake ready countries for a reason

No you don't get it; that's also part of the HAARPists plan.

RGDATA!

what was the last earthquake that didn't have any HAARP involvement, or is that a stupid question?

phantom_lord

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I dunno, I think that reading his claims and then objectivley examining the results is not the exclusive domain of science journals, you are free to examine his claims and see what you can make of it Too.

I think the experts in the field would do a better job tbh.

Dude111

Well I saw a video that had a guy WARNING OF BAD EARTHQUAKES,ETC taking place from March6th-15th,SO I DO BELIEVE HAARP WAS INVOLVED!!!!! (With HAITI also)

HAARP was fully operational a couple days BEFORE THE JAPAN EVENT..

How can someone put out a video SAYING BAD THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN FROM MARCH 6TH-15TH UNLESS THEY KNOW FOR SURE THEY ARE?? (They are going to do something to cause such events to happen)

Dude111

Dude111 wrote: »

Well I saw a video that had a guy WARNING OF BAD EARTHQUAKES,ETC taking place from March6th-15th,SO I DO BELIEVE HAARP WAS INVOLVED!!!!! (With HAITI also)

HAARP was fully operational a coupler days BEFORE THE JAPAN EVENT..

How can someone put out a video SAYING BAD THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN FROM MARCH 6TH-15TH UNLESS THEY KNOW FOR SURE THEY ARE?? (They are going to do something to cause such events to happen)

Have you a link to this video?
Does the video contain specifics about when and were there earthquakes will be before they happen?

And what exactly leads you to believe HAARP can even cause earthquakes in the first place?

Dude111

Here is the video King Mob..he mentions MARCH6TH-15TH around 7:55

www.youtube.com/v/gq1EraTnvIg


I first saw this video weeks ago........ (And i knew right then)

phosphate

More fear mongering rubbish, nearly as bad as Alex Jones.
Today is the 15th and there is supposed to be poleshift? :-]

Dude111

Dude111 wrote: »

Here is the video King Mob..he mentions MARCH6TH-15TH around 7:55

www.youtube.com/v/gq1EraTnvIg


I first saw this video weeks ago........ (And i knew right then)

Hang on. He doesn't just say earthquakes. He says storms, earthquakes (plural) and all kinds of things. So leave aside the Japanese earthquake, where is this other stuff he's predicted?

And how come he didn't say anything about HAARP? He clearly states that this is to do with a pole shift, which is yet to and probably won't happen.

It's actually pretty scary that he actually takes that stuff seriously. Poor ****er looks terrified.

Emme

Dude111 wrote: »

Well I saw a video that had a guy WARNING OF BAD EARTHQUAKES,ETC taking place from March6th-15th,SO I DO BELIEVE HAARP WAS INVOLVED!!!!! (With HAITI also)

HAARP was fully operational a couple days BEFORE THE JAPAN EVENT..

How can someone put out a video SAYING BAD THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN FROM MARCH 6TH-15TH UNLESS THEY KNOW FOR SURE THEY ARE?? (They are going to do something to cause such events to happen)

Maybe he was referring to the pole shift.

How did earthquakes ever take place on the planet without HAARRP?:rolleyes:

Monty Burnz

Emme wrote: »

Maybe he was referring to the pole shift.

I looked at the video. He was. Nothing about HAARP at all.

Dude111

No of course he wouldnt,he was just telling what HE HEARD.. (Maybe he doesnt know of HAARP (I didnt until last year))

All im saying is IT LOOKS QUITE SUSPICIOUS...

Dude111

Dude111 wrote: »

No of course he wouldnt,he was just telling what HE HEARD.. (Maybe he doesnt know of HAARP (I didnt until last year))

All im saying is IT LOOKS QUITE SUSPICIOUS...

But he's specifically saying it's going to be a pole shift (still hasn't happened), not HAARP.
He specifically says this is going to be a worldwide event not just something in Japan and that it would be more than one earthquake.

Cranks like this guy have been making claims like this for years and have always been wrong. It's not that strange that once in a while they get a bit lucky.

So again, what leads you to believe HAARP can cause earthquakes?

Monty Burnz

It would be a huge, epic own-goal if the US caused sufficient damage in China or Japan to force them to start selling T-bills, as the dollar would collapse, and possibly the US with it.

Zombienosh

Pixel8 wrote: »

A youtube user called Astrotometry has been studying and measuring the Suns connection to Earth and he has reached the conclusion that Solar Flares from the Sun have a direct influence on Earth 2 to 3 days after a Solar Flare, they are the main cause of earthquakes on this planet. He predicted the Haiti earthquake last year using data from the Sun a couple of days before it happened.

There were 5 M-Class solar flares just a few days ago which means more earthquakes are coming shortly.

this have anything to do with the 2 suns above asia recently?

Monty Burnz

Zombienosh wrote: »

this have anything to do with the 2 suns above asia recently?

We have this on another thread, I think. The 'two suns' phenomenon was almost certainly an atmospheric issue in China, some sort of sun dogs. As somebody else pointed out, if it wasn't a local atmospheric issue, how come nobody else around the world could see two 'suns'?

Dude111

Dude111 wrote:

Here is the video King Mob..he mentions MARCH6TH-15TH around 7:55

www.youtube.com/v/gq1EraTnvIg


I first saw this video weeks ago........ (And i knew right then)

Now it says THE VIDEO IS PRIVATE.....

They are doing everything they can to block people from seeing this..... IT WAS DELETED WITH A SO CALLED "COPYRIGHT CLAIM" BY THE GUY IN THE VID A COUPLE WEEKS AGO!!

I dont think so.... HE WANTS EVERYONE TO HEAR THIS INFO!!

Monty Burnz

Dude111 wrote: »

Now it says THE VIDEO IS PRIVATE.....

They are doing everything they can to block people from seeing this..... IT WAS DELETED WITH A SO CALLED "COPYRIGHT CLAIM" BY THE GUY IN THE VID A COUPLE WEEKS AGO!!

I dont think so.... HE WANTS EVERYONE TO HEAR THIS INFO!!

I watched the video - it says nothing about HAARP in it at all. This guy was afraid of the pole shift on March 15th. That didn't happen either.

seanmacc

Weather or not HAARP causes earthquakes is questionable but it does seem very convenient that no US city has been hit by a major earthquakes since HAARP became operational. Coincidence?

What HAARP actually does should be exposed because in recent years they have been expanding it.

Monty Burnz

seanmacc wrote: »

Weather or not HAARP causes earthquakes is questionable

...you could say that I suppose. Whether or not fairies live in the bottom of my garden is questionable too.

seanmacc wrote: »

...but it does seem very convenient that no US city has been hit by a major earthquakes since HAARP became operational. Coincidence?

Probably. But earthquakes in major US cities are rather less frequent than they are in Japan before HAARP as well as after. When there is another large earthquake in the US, will that allay your fears?

seanmacc wrote: »

What HAARP actually does should be exposed because in recent years they have been expanding it.

I think they have exposed it - do you think they are keeping information back? Do you have an idea how it might cause earthquakes? Or rather, stop them, as you seem to be saying it has in your comment about US cities.

RGDATA!

seanmacc wrote: »

Weather or not HAARP causes earthquakes is questionable but it does seem very convenient that no US city has been hit by a major earthquakes since HAARP became operational. Coincidence?

Just checking that and I notice that 3 of the 20 biggest US earthquakes in history have hit since HAARP became operational.

I agree it's convenient that nothing major has hit a US city since then, convenient for the people living in those US cities certainly.

The last earthquake with significant fatalities in the US seems to have been Northridge, California, 1994 (a year after HAARP commenced!), where 60+ people died in and around LA.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/events/1994_01_17.php

Prior to this the previous big one was 1989 also in California where 60+ people died, $6 billion in damage. That was the biggest since the big one in San Fran in 1906.

There aren't that many major earthquakes hitting US cities. Before the one in 1989 it was early 70's since something similar.

So is it a coincidence that there have been no major earthquakes in the US since HAARP commenced, apart from the one a year after HAARP commenced, and 3 out of the 20 biggest they've ever had? IMO, no.

faboofour

Weather or not HAARP is causing the unprecedented number of recent elephant attacks in India (see ReutersVideos on YouTube) is questionable but it does seem very convenient that only one US city (Toledo, Ohio, 2008) has been hit by a major elephant attack since HAARP became operational. Coincidence?

I THINK NOT!!

What HAARP actually does should be exposed because in recent years they have been expanding it.

TO ATTACK OTHER COUNTRIES BY CAUSING ELEPHANT ATTACKS!!1!

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uncleoswald

RGDATA! wrote: »

Just checking that and I notice that 3 of the 20 biggest US earthquakes in history have hit since HAARP became operational.

I agree it's convenient that nothing major has hit a US city since then, convenient for the people living in those US cities certainly.

The last earthquake with significant fatalities in the US seems to have been Northridge, California, 1994 (a year after HAARP commenced!), where 60+ people died in and around LA.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/events/1994_01_17.php

Prior to this the previous big one was 1989 also in California where 60+ people died, $6 billion in damage. That was the biggest since the big one in San Fran in 1906.

There aren't that many major earthquakes hitting US cities. Before the one in 1989 it was early 70's since something similar.

So is it a coincidence that there have been no major earthquakes in the US since HAARP commenced, apart from the one a year after HAARP commenced, and 3 out of the 20 biggest they've ever had? IMO, no.

So there were city earthquake in 94', one in 89' and one in the early 70's? So what are you suggesting, that the states had some sort of super weapon that prevented earthquakes between 89' and the early 70's?

And according to this: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0193595.html only 2 of the 20 biggest have struck the US since work on Haarp began.

You are right though, its not a coincidence because nothing statistically odd has occurred.

WakeUp

Not sure if HAARP caused the earthquake, to be honest I dont think it did Im going throw this out here anyway...

The US Airforce research paper: Airforce 2025 Owning the Weather has a Technology abstract index at the end of the page. Click on that and select Survivability and Hardening Technology- in there you will see the heading - Earthquake weapon ( 80062) Manmade earthquakes??? somebody has been thinking about the idea using acoustic waves and the US military are aware of it.

Monty Burnz

WakeUp wrote: »

The US Airforce research paper: Airforce 2025 Owning the Weather has a Technology abstract index at the end of the page. Click on that and select Survivability and Hardening Technology- in there you will see the heading - Earthquake weapon ( 80062) Manmade earthquakes??? somebody has been thinking about the idea using acoustic waves and the US military are aware of it.

I'm not sure if that is a part of the research paper:

This technology abstract is a submittal by the general public. The views expressed in this abstract are strictly those of the author and do not reflect the official policy, position, or programs of the United States Air Force, Department of Defense, or the United States Government.

It looks more like a suggestion box type thing, where you can suggest ideas for them, like ray-guns or death beams.

Edit: Yeah, it looks very much like it's just a suggestion box, having looked at a few more of them. Look at the state of this one...

References: U.S. Patent #: 3,393,279 dated 16Jul68. Secrecy Order #: 756,124 dated 28Aug68, rescinded in 1972. U.S. Patent #: 3,647,970 dated 07Mar72. G. Harry Stine; Analog: May79, Jul79, Feb80. Dr. Flanagan; Personal E-mail dated 26Jan95. Dr. Charles Sheffield, Dr. Jerry Pournell, and David Webber are a few who have incorperated a version of the device into there story writing and possably have researched its' strengths and weaknesses.

Basically, that is some guy who can't spell or manage basic grammar suggesting something he read in sci-fi stories.

This one is interesting too - it shows a suggestion has actually been assessed by a scientist and shot down.

WakeUp

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I'm not sure if that is a part of the research paper:

It looks more like a suggestion box type thing, where you can suggest ideas for them, like ray-guns or death beams.

Yeah you are right, when I said research paper I meant the overall paper as in "Airforce 2025". As you said somebody submitted that piece was just showing that they (US Airforce) included it in their paper or at least published it on their website and that somebody, whoever that might be, has given thought to the idea.

WakeUp

Monty Burnz wrote: »

This one is interesting too - it shows a suggestion has actually been assessed by a scientist and shot down.

That is very interesting, interesting enough that they had a look at it and at least commented on it. I wonder did whoever suggested that have prior knowledge of it or did he come up with the idea himself without knowing they had previously studied it and deemed it a non-starter. Seems the military had a better understanding of a "carnot engine" than the chap in question. Interesting:)

RGDATA!

uncleoswald wrote: »

So there were city earthquake in 94', one in 89' and one in the early 70's? So what are you suggesting, that the states had some sort of super weapon that prevented earthquakes between 89' and the early 70's?

And according to this: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0193595.html only 2 of the 20 biggest have struck the US since work on Haarp began.

You are right though, its not a coincidence because nothing statistically odd has occurred.

you must have misread my post if you thought i was suggesting HAARP has anything to do with earthquakes

Treora

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/can-hyperinflation-really-hit-us

http://www.forexlive.com/132067/all/usdjpy-history-suggests-that-there-is-more-to-come

What a different 6 months can make. Now where can all excess dollars go?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/markets-forex-idUSN1618964720110316

http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2011-03/forex-usdjpy-eases-from-record-low-boj-action-possible.aspx?storyid=62450

BOJ takes a battering too.

Monty Burnz

I don't understand why the BOJ don't just print another mountain of Yen and lend it to the banks and government at .1% or whatever, and I don't know why the market is discounting the possibility. Could it be because they just don't think the Japanese governmnet will do it due to their already ginormous mountain of sovereign debt (any more will raise more questions about Japan's solvency)? But then that never stopped the BOJ before...