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Limerick Tunnel cash only....wtf!!!

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  • 11-03-2011 12:31am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭


    Out the door (with no cash) heading for limerick, decided to save time and take the tunnel, SHíTE no cash, no worries I think to myself, I'll use my CC.
    Up I pull, started to give my card, guy says no can do...
    He tells me there are no card facillites at ALL, I asked him where are the warnings signs for CASH ONLY, he's says I know it was mentioned to their Boss, that if they have no card facilites should they warn people, he didn't care was the answer they got....modern road, paid for be joe public(eventually) and they have no modern payment methods...joke

    So he hands me a docket to sign (to pay later) as I was returning that way later on... later, I hand it in and ask for a receipt for the payment, sorry we have no way of doing that he says...what a Fuking useless company running it, whoever they are...Rant Over:mad:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    yeah they arent even taking money now, you have to put it in the bucket and when the change comes out if falls out of the tray! Its not like I even want the change - why couldnt they have a system like they have in Portlaoise. You dont even have to slow down to go through fast lane


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They could be trying to avoid something like this too


    Hong+Kong+Cross+Harbour+Tunnel.JPG

    Never heard of any tunnel accepting credit/debit cards. Although not being able to issue a receipt is a joke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭number10a


    Whatever about tunnels, I've come across a lot of toll roads where you can pay by card. I can understand not doing it, but it needs to be well signposted before the last exit before the tunnel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,295 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    You wanted to pay €1.80 by credit card?

    http://www.limericktunnel.com/how_to_pay.htm


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Victor wrote: »
    You wanted to pay €1.80 by credit card?

    http://www.limericktunnel.com/how_to_pay.htm


    Sure isin't that what it's for? Paying for goods and services and all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 563 ✭✭✭BESman


    It would be ridiculous if everyone paid with credit card, nonetheless, it should be an emergency option for people who forget to carry cash or don't have enough on them.

    I also had a bad experience with them. Counted out my change before the journey, put it in a change bag, emptied it into the bucket and it came up as being €1.70. I am 100% sure that it was €1.80. I counted it a few times as I had no other change on me and didn't wanna fall short. I reckon the electronic counter is faulty if you throw too much change in at the same time. I didn't have anything smaller than 10c so thats not a reason either. Frustrating as f*ck, had to go to the manned booth and explain and she let me off. How long will it be tolled I wonder? Forever? I'll probably avoid using it again in a hurry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Man if you were in front of me and paid with a CC, i'd have to get out of my car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    Its quicker to pay by card.
    Its possible to bypass the pin function like they do on the continent and just scan the card and process later. Its far quicker than messing with cash. And cheaper for everyone involved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭REXER


    Hell even in the 3rd world you can pay these thing by CC or even fleet cards.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 643 ✭✭✭maryk123


    I am beginning to hate the tunnel. i went there a couple of days after work to get home faster and i am in a queue of 15-20 cars so i bought a toll tag which didnt work for 2 months so now you drive at 50km and cross your finger that it works if it doesnt work i have to queue up with the 15 cars and then the barrier goes up stating that i have paid. another annoying thing i checked my account i am charged 18cent extra for using a toll tag. i presumed it was the same but you paid for the convenience of going in the fast lane - what fast lane its not faster and more frustrating. i think at this stage it would be easier to queue up down the dock road. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    why can they not make this easier it just amazes me altogether


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    I've got a trip card and discovered the other night there was no one manning the booths so I was in situation where I've prepaid for trips, they have my money, but I can't get through !!!! Had to ring the Help button and a guy eventually wandered out to process the card. No advance warning that booths weren't manned. Their systems are a blooody nightmare. I've used CC numerous times in France and it doesn't slow you down any more than paying cash either to a booth or to a basket.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Man if you were in front of me and paid with a CC, i'd have to get out of my car.

    Sure ya would...........:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Yet another tunnel thread, it has been a while :o

    So the Op didn't have €1.80 on him in cash and decided to pay for cash through what is supposed to be a quick transaction, with a CC, if I was in a shop and noticed someone in front of me paying for the paper with a credit card I wouldn't be impressed let alone someone delaying something that is supposed to be quick.

    As far as I'm concerned the upgrade in roads around the country over the past few years is fantastic, I drove from Ennis to Dublin last week in under 2 hours (Naas Road I'll admit :)) when I worked in Castletroy in 1999-2001 it used to take me over an hour every day to get to and from work every day, now it takes me half an hour to get to work in Raheen.

    If someone wants to pay by credit card, get a pre-paid solution, I have to admit that I always thought that all tolls were cash only on the stiles, but as I always say about the tunnel, if you don't want to use it, don't it's completely optional.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    If anybody in front of me attempted to pay a €1.80 toll with a credit card I would crush them with my Monster Truck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭Zapho


    I don't see why they don't have a credit card/laser option in fairness. People use the cashier lane because they don't have small coins on them - its a given that its going to be slower than the basket lanes.

    Also it takes just as long to process a credit card in the attended cashier lane as it does to give someone change of a €20. On other toll roads I've been on, they just swipe your card and don't bother getting you to sign it or type in your pin.

    And this has happened to me on the Limerick tunnel. The cashier was sound enough to let me go a few cent short...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Personally I can't understand someone leaving home without cash, yes plastic is very handy but it's not legal tender, I always have a few coins in the ashtray for such occasions, but then again I couldn't understand someone wanting to pay €1.80 electronically, I think it's worth pointing out also that the tunnel folks gave the Op a means of paying for the toll later rather than making him turn around and go back via a non-tolled road


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭source


    If as someone here said, tried to pay for something that cost €1.80 in a shop, with a credit card. Then they would be told to bugger off. Why? because the shop pays a charge for the transaction/ to have the machines in their business place. If the price they're charging is low then they are loosing money to the credit card machine company and it is not worth their while.

    This is why shops have lower limits for people wanting to use credit cards, say for example €10 in most shops.

    The only road in this country that offers the service is the N25 Southlink toll in Waterford the reason for this, is as I outlined above; the cost of each charge being too expensive for it to be economically viable. Coupled with the fact that easily 95% of people would be paying by cash, it makes it not worth their while to have the machines installed. Also lets not forget that not only are they paying to have the machines in each booth/ outside each booth, they also have to pay for phone/broadband lines to allow these machines to transmit the data to the bank. And all this so that approximately 5% of their customers can use the service.
    7. What methods of payment are accepted at the Toll Plazas?

    The toll fares can be paid by:

    • Cash: Cash payments (Notes and Coin) can be made at manual lanes and a toll operator will be on hand to give change. Exact coins can also be used at semi automatic coin machines (baskets). In addition, one lane in each toll ramp will automatically give back change.

    • Credit Cards: VISA and MASTERCARD can be used at SouthLink only, in either the manual or semi-automatic lanes.

    • Interoperable Tags: Electronic devices from all the other concessionaires and independent service providers are accepted at all the Toll Plaza's nationally. “Interoperability” of electronic toll collection was established in 2007 and enables the road user to pay the toll fare at any toll plaza in the Republic by using an electronic tag supplied by any of the service providers in the Republic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    From personal experience on the continent using my credit card. There is no chip and pin crap or handing it to anybody. You arrive up to the machine. Pop in your card into the slot and it spits it back out as fast as it would a ticket.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Berty wrote: »
    From personal experience on the continent using my credit card. There is no chip and pin crap or handing it to anybody. You arrive up to the machine. Pop in your card into the slot and it spits it back out as fast as it would a ticket.
    As is the same in the US. We have far more advanced credit card security than a lot of counties for the simple reason that we were so slow to implement credit cards, credit cards are still seen as a bad thing by a lot of people, I remember being in a shop with my mother 1 day and the bill came to €70 or something, I handed over my plastic, my mother looked shocked, took the card and paid for the stuff for me, she then asked me "have you no money?", she saw credit card use as a last gasp thing.

    Personally I pay for everything on my CC, that way I just have to clear it once a month through online banking besides going to and from the ATM, I still find it amazing the amount of people that will get petrol, get money out of the ATM with their laser and then pay for the petrol.

    Anway, very off topic, if I was in a pub and the person being served before me paid for his pint with a credit card I would be very miffed, if everyone was to do this I would be extremely annoyed, it just slows everything down


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭phill106


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    If anybody in front of me attempted to pay a €1.80 toll with a credit card I would crush them with my Monster Truck.

    Then i would be stuck behind you beeping as your monster truck would be too big to get through the toll barrier or the tunnel!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    I remember when i was in poland, we went to to KFCski and the person with me tried to pay with a credit card, i had to hide. I laughed though thinking of handing in a credit card at the hut.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Laphroaig52


    Clareman wrote: »

    Anway, very off topic, if I was in a pub and the person being served before me paid for his pint with a credit card I would be very miffed, if everyone was to do this I would be extremely annoyed, it just slows everything down

    Aha! Maybe you are not so different from your mother after all! There's no reason why credit cards shouldn't be used in pubs as well as everywhere else.The technology is there to complete the transation as quickly as a handing in cash, and counting out change. Also in a busy pub, late at night, it eliminates human error and fraud ("I gave you a fifty!").

    I was in New Zealand a few years ago and that's the way it is there. Pubs, fast food, taxis....pretty much everywhere use credit cards as the primary means........even the beggars (OK I made that up).

    In fact, after a few hours in the pub I felt that it was I who was holding up the show with my bloody 'cash'.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    When Ennis was awarded the Information Age Town they introduced electronic cash, everyone got a card that you could "top up" with your change at a number of locations and use as a credit card, almost instant, that was great, no PIN, no delay, very useful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭phill106


    From http://www.urenio.org/courses/files/4/articles/C-Ennis_Virtual-Real.pdf


    Smart cards. Ennis hosted a 12 month electronic purse trial to evaluate a
    smart card alternative to cash – an experiment centered on the concept of a
    cashless society. This experiment provided invaluable research into the uses
    and limitations of smart card technologies. While very successful in
    unattended sites – public car parks and public phones, for retail businesses,
    the transactions were too slow and the technology too cumbersome. The long
    established, conventional financial systems remain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    I'm pretty sure they have credit card facilities at other toll plazas in the country, pretty sure I remember seeing one on the M4.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    If anybody in front of me attempted to pay a €1.80 toll with a credit card I would crush them with my Monster Truck.

    Monster trucks aren't allowed in the tunnel:pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    I didn't realise so many boardies are cave people, its the electronic age, if I don't have cash I should be able to pay electronicly.....
    Just ye all wait till I'm your overlord.....:cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭jc84


    I rarely carry cash, they need to adopt the wave and pay visa system, most other countries have it, always use it when in uk, chip an pin is over and 1.80 is a ripoff for that crappy tunnel


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Clareman wrote: »
    Personally I can't understand someone leaving home without cash, yes plastic is very handy but it's not legal tender, I always have a few coins in the ashtray for such occasions, but then again I couldn't understand someone wanting to pay €1.80 electronically, I think it's worth pointing out also that the tunnel folks gave the Op a means of paying for the toll later rather than making him turn around and go back via a non-tolled road

    I live in a house not a bank, trust me lots of people have forgotten cash, thats why they have method of paying later


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Do what other asshats are doing.

    Drive into the express lane at 1km/h and stare confused why the barrier is not lifting(not having a tag usually). Wait for the other muppet( aka Berty ) to arrive behind you with his tag. Barrier magically opens.............asshat drives through and the barrier closes in front of me. I then have to exit the express lane and go through the regular lane.

    Happened soooo many times that if I see people going through in front of me slowly I just avoid the express lane.


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