Ireland vs West Indies- Mohali, Friday March 11th

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next to go into the cover and extra cover cordon for no runs and over ends

66 needed off 30 balls

Fox1978

SSK wrote: »

Lads haven't been able to follow this very well as I have a lot of work on.

Can anyone tell me why Dockrell only bowled 3 overs? Thanks

Yeah the commentators couldn't explain that either! Don't know if Irish thought the Windies would batter our spinner to the boundaries or what. We really missed Trent today.

ISAW

dockrell powers a 4 from a short ball to the extra cover / long on

Kerrydude1981

We were tipping along nicely with Joyce and Wilson and as some one said earlier why didnt they call the batting powerplay then,the house of cards has really crumbled since Joyce was bowled out

BionicRasher

over and out

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Mooney going for six gone to a yorker!!! 215-9

Fox1978

So, who's next? Is our next match Tuesday? Vs who? Is it South Africa?

wicorthered

The plus is, again we competed with a test playing nation. We've seen Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, two teams who will play test cricket this year embarassed in this world cup. Every game we've played we've had genuine shots of winning. With ICC help:rolleyes: we would have a genuine chance of being a competitive test nation in the next 10-15 years. Once the O Briens, Joyces, Johnstons etc retire and the Stirlings and Dockrells get swallowed up by England we need sufficient funding and development in place to replace them with quality players. If we don't this golden age for Irish cricket will be over for ever!!

ISAW

bowler rankin comes out at numbner eleven . one run to third man
216-9

Marshy

SSK wrote: »

Can anyone tell me why Dockrell only bowled 3 overs? Thanks

He probably should've bowled more but the wicket hasn't spun much and even the WI spinners have been quite expensive.

wicorthered

Marshy wrote: »

He probably should've bowled more but the wicket hasn't spun much and even the WI spinners have been quite expensive.

But Benn has taken wickets. Dockrell might have gone for a few but he's our best bowler and his flight could have tempted Pollard and had him before he took the medium pacers apart.

ISAW

dockrell pops it over the infield and it runs on to long on for four
Fieldre is hurt trying to stiop it.

Only home now is the Windies get injured.

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Dockrell splits the gully and point for another four

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last three overs last wicket 51 needed from 18 balls

Marshy

wicorthered wrote: »

But Benn has taken wickets. Dockrell might have gone for a few but he's our best bowler and his flight could have tempted Pollard and had him before he took the medium pacers apart.

Yeah I agree, he probably should've bowled against Pollard. Then again I can see why Porterfield was worried he might get smashed like Pathan did against him towards the end of the India chase.

ISAW

227-9 2 overs left 48 required

SSK

Marshy wrote: »

Yeah I agree, he probably should've bowled against Pollard. Then again I can see why Porterfield was worried he might get smashed like Pathan did against him towards the end of the India chase.

I can't really comment on this game as I haven't seen it but at the end of the day he's a front line bowler and he had already take a wicket for 15 runs off 3 overs. Surely you've got to give him a couple of overs against Pollard considering he was battering the ****e out of pretty much everyone else

BionicRasher

Ah well - good try Ireland but I think there were a few mistakes in the game plan from the Team
We could and should have been able to win that

wicorthered

I've had friends texting me today who, 3 weeks ago laughed at me for following cricket. Now they love it too. Thats a credit to the effort our lads have put in, in this world cup. No shame in defeat today Windies will be very relieved tonight. The one associate test nations don't underestimate so they always come hard at us, this proves we can compete with the very best. Come on lads lets beat Holland and give the South Africans a run for their money.

Marshy

SSK wrote: »

I can't really comment on this game as I haven't seen it but at the end of the day he's a front line bowler and he had already take a wicket for 15 runs off 3 overs. Surely you've got to give him a couple of overs against Pollard considering he was battering the ****e out of pretty much everyone else

It was surprising he didn't try him for at least an over or two alright.

Good effort from the lads again but chase was a bit steep. I thought we'd a great chance when Joyce was still there, batting with Wilson. It would've been best to take the powerplay while they were going I think to try and get up with the run rate with wickets still in hand. Kev was our only real chance of scoring over 9 and over once it got to that and I think he'll be disappointed the way he's got out in the last 2 games.

John.Icy

Tbh our chances were diminishing the longer joyce was out there...the RRR was geting higher and higher, and only wilson was really gunning for it...if they took their powerplay there, maybe, but the RRR was only going up, leaving an impossible target.

wicorthered

John.Icy wrote: »

Tbh our chances were diminishing the longer joyce was out there...the RRR was geting higher and higher, and only mooney was really gunning for it...if they took their powerplay there, maybe, but the RRR was only going up, leaving an impossible target.

Ridiculous comment. Our chances ended when Ed got out. He was sensibly building a good platform to launch a late charge to the total.

spiralism

So basically, regarding qualification, we're kind of screwed i take it? or could an unlikely win against a SA side flattering to deceive make things interesting yet?

John.Icy

wicorthered wrote: »

Ridiculous comment. Our chances ended when Ed got out. He was sensibly building a good platform to launch a late charge to the total.

Theres building a platform, then theres leaving a mountain to scale. Powerplay could hace made the world of difference if they took it while joyce and wilson were batting.

Still we played fantastic, and we outscored england i believe who were playing bangledesh

wicorthered

John.Icy wrote: »

Theres building a platform, then theres leaving a mounrain to scale. Powerplay could hace made the world of difference if they took it while joyce and wilson were batting.

Still we played fantastic, and weoutscored england i believe who were playing bangledesh

Judging by your England comment i'll take it you're one of the bandwagoners!! Englands total looks low but given the pitch they played on its not bad.

When to take the powerplay is the hardest decision to make. Taking the powerplay doesn't guarantee runs, it's very risky and throughout the tournament the teams taking it have lost wickets regularly. So taking it at 150/3 could turn into 170/5 very easily. If they got to 200/3 with a powerplay left they would have been strong favs. Joyce was unlucky, he got the ball of the game that any batsmen would have struggled with. Joyce and Wilson were brilliant (wilsons lbw was a joke) the more experienced team won. We are always up against it when we play the test teams.

John.Icy

wicorthered wrote: »

Judging by your England comment i'll take it you're one of the bandwagoners!! Englands total looks low but given the pitch they played on its not bad.

When to take the powerplay is the hardest decision to make. Taking the powerplay doesn't guarantee runs, it's very risky and throughout the tournament the teams taking it have lost wickets regularly. So taking it at 150/3 could turn into 170/5 very easily. If they got to 200/3 with a powerplay left they would have been strong favs. Joyce was unlucky, he got the ball of the game that any batsmen would have struggled with. Joyce and Wilson were brilliant (wilsons lbw was a joke) the more experienced team won. We are always up against it when we play the test teams.

I agree, but we had the beating of them, take out pollards scoee that we should have stopped, wilsons dodgy wicket, we could hace won with ease.

D3PO

John.Icy wrote: »

Theres building a platform, then theres leaving a mountain to scale. Powerplay could hace made the world of difference if they took it while joyce and wilson were batting.

Still we played fantastic, and we outscored england i believe who were playing bangledesh

your comment is just rediculous. I can only assume your a bandwagoner that actually dont understand how an ODI chase of 275 generally is built.

we were in a prime position with Joyce out there. 8 an over for 15 overs with a powerplay and 7 wickets in hand is not a mountain at all.

In fact at that point we would have been favoured to win.

LondonIrish90

D3PO wrote: »

your comment is just rediculous. I can only assume your a bandwagoner that actually dont understand how an ODI chase of 275 generally is built.

we were in a prime position with Joyce out there. 8 an over for 15 overs with a powerplay and 7 wickets in hand is not a mountain at all.

In fact at that point we would have been favoured to win.

Scoring more than us might be some sort of consolation if we weren't such a horror show with bat and ball at the moment

TheDrog

from cricinfo

Umpiring in the World Cup has run into fresh controversy with Ireland captain William Porterfield strongly criticising Asoka de Silva's decision to give Gary Wilson out lbw despite replays showing the batsman had offered a shot to a delivery that replays clearly indicated had hit him outside the line. Porterfield's comments - unusually sharp for a team captain - came after a match he said turned on that decision.
"I am still trying to understand myself. The feedback we have got so far is that the ball hit him outside the line and the umpire judged him not playing a shot. I don't know how many people agree with that," Porterfield said after Ireland's 44-run defeat against West Indies.
The ball in question, delivered by West Indies captain Darren Sammy, pitched outside the off stump and cut in to hit the outside of Wilson's front pad. Wilson was trying to nudge it but failed. But the Sri Lankan official thought he was offering no shot and raised his finger instantly. A surprised Wilson asked for an immediate review. The third umpire Bruce Oxenford relayed to de Silva that the ball had hit outside off and would go on to hit the outside of the off stump according to HawkEye. Replays on the big screen made that clear as also the fact that Wilson was actually trying to play the shot. Disappointed and confused, Wilson asked de Silva to refer the review this time. It was an extraordinary moment which bordered on the comical as de Silva went back to Oxenford once again. In the end, de Silva stuck to his stand and Wilson charged out furiously shaking his head.
"If you see the replay on the big screen he could've still been able to reverse his decision from there. It was clearly seen he was playing the shot. (And) even though he [de Silva] judged that (wrongly) in the first place he saw the replays on the big screen," Porterfield said. He said that he did not have much time to discuss the issue with the aggrieved Wilson, who was not "in a great state of mind" when he came off the ground. "The word we are getting at the minute is the umpire went back upstairs to check if he hit the ball before the impact on the pad and if it was pad first, or bat first. Surely if you are asking if it was pad first or bat first, you know he is playing a shot. In my opinion they got it wrong."
Asked if the DRS was proving to be a nuisance rather than a help, Porterfield said he would not blame the reviews per se. "I would like say it (DRS) was working but if you get a decision like that then I don't know. When you have all the technology, it is supposed to eradicate the mistakes and for me that did not happen this time."
Interestingly, just as Porterfield was trying to bare his emotions, he had to stop briefly as Phil Simmons, the Ireland coach, walked in to have a few private words with his captain. The exchange, the media was told, was "off the record".
Porterfield admitted that Wilson's wicket was the turning point in Ireland's chase. Wilson had showed a wise head in the company of Ed Joyce, sharing a vital 91-run partnership for the fourth wicket. After Joyce departed Wilson took the onus on him and was playing fluently. Ireland needed 77 from 51 balls and the batting Powerplay was yet to be taken when Wilson was ruled out. "It was the pivotal moment in the game. It was not one of the things that cost us the game as there were other things we did," Porterfield said. "But it was a pretty crucial decision. He was going well. If we had taken the Powerplay we never know especially with Cusy [Alex Cusack] and John boy [Mooney] to come there."
One man who was more than happy to see the back of Wilson was Sammy. "I was happy that we got him out. That was the main focus for us, he back in the pavilion," he said.
But at the time of the incident, Sammy was intensely chatting to Wilson after de Silva's original decision. Asked if he saw Wilson's point, Sammy said personally he would not have argued with the umpire. "Ever since I started playing cricket the umpires are in charge. He did what he had to do," Sammy said. So was that what he was making Wilson aware of? "I personally tried to tell him you know what, at the end of the day, the umpire said you are out so don't hang around because you don't really make an issue and get fined. We learned as a team that if the umpire says you are out, unless he tells you to hold on, you walk. You can always give your feedback in the captain's report."
Incidentally, Ireland were fined. But for another crime. Apparently they had bowled an over short and as a consequence Porterfield was penalised 20% of his match fee while the rest of the team had to take a 10% cut.



Anyone know anything about this?

John.Icy

D3PO wrote: »

your comment is just rediculous. I can only assume your a bandwagoner that actually dont understand how an ODI chase of 275 generally is built.

we were in a prime position with Joyce out there. 8 an over for 15 overs with a powerplay and 7 wickets in hand is not a mountain at all.

In fact at that point we would have been favoured to win.

8 an over is a big ask for Ireland. It was increasing by the over, while the run rate needed was at 5, we were at prime position to win, but once to got to 8, it was a huge ask of the boys, and they fought well.

And I am not a bandwagoner for your information, and I understand how a ODI chase of 275 is built, and it is definately not letting the required run rate run off on you, powerplay or no powerplay (powerplay migh have cost us dearly) we let it slip from the grasp of victory.

Hopefully we'll shock South Africa....