The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

Lemlin

Tom Joad wrote: »

I think Val and the team will use the Johnston saga as a motivational tool. Really important that Cavan get off to a good start against Wexford especially given that its a young team. A win at the weekend could set us up for a very good league.

Interesting to see that some bookies have Cavan as favourites for relegation - probably to do with the Johnston saga. Might be worth a punt on them to win the division.

Does anyone know if the team for the weekend is out yet?

keane2097

No sign of it yet, supposed to be out today alright.

Give this a spin while you're waiting sure - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056537538

Lemlin

keane2097 wrote: »

No sign of it yet, supposed to be out today alright.

Give this a spin while you're waiting sure - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056537538

Any sign of a team? I've no Hogan Stand access in work.

premierstone

Lemlin wrote: »

Any sign of a team? I've no Hogan Stand access in work.

There just waiting for all the players obn the panel to confirm and proove their principal place of residence, the Cavan County Board have suddenly become very morally concious in recent times, fair play to them

keane2097

Lemlin wrote: »

Any sign of a team? I've no Hogan Stand access in work.

Still nothing on Hogan Stand anyway.

keane2097

At last, I'm told this is the line up:


James Reilly
Damien Barkey, Sean McCormack, Ronan Flanagan,
Dane O'Dowd, Padraic O'Reilly, Barry Waters,
David Givney, Gearoid McKiernan,
Niall Smith, Niall McDermott, Stephen Jordan,
Brendan Fitzpatrick, Eugene Keating, Raymond Galligan.

cavan4sam

bring back seanie ......4-09 to much of a score to be conceding

28064212

cavan4sam wrote: »

bring back seanie ......4-09 to much of a score to be conceding

...you know Seanie is a forward, right?

cavan4sam

einstein u in disguise? , yes i'm well aware of that , a lot of discontent in the camp ?? no room for john mc cutcheon in the line up arguably our best defender past couple of seasons

Lemlin

cavan4sam wrote: »

einstein u in disguise? , yes i'm well aware of that , a lot of discontent in the camp ?? no room for john mc cutcheon in the line up arguably our best defender past couple of seasons

Is McCutcheon injured? He played some of the McKenna Cup games.

Lemlin

Team for tonight against Longford:

1. James Reilly
2. Damien Barkey
3. Oisin Minagh
4. Ronan Flanagan
5. Robert Maloney-Derham
6. Padraic O Reilly
7. Damien Reilly
8. David Givney
9. Gearoid McKiernan
10. Niall Smith
11. Niall McDermott
12. Kevin Meehan
13. Brendan Fitzpatrick
14. Eugene Keating
15. Raymond Galligan

cavan4sam

Lemlin wrote: »

Is McCutcheon injured? He played some of the McKenna Cup games.

john mc cutcheon has left the panel , who is next ???

GERRYMAC65

At least Cavan didnt concede 4 goals against Longford,who arent bad.

Lemlin

GERRYMAC65 wrote: »

At least Cavan didnt concede 4 goals against Longford,who arent bad.

I'd expect to be beating Longford in Breffni to be honest. They're no world beaters.

Still, of the starting 15, 7 were U21s from last year so at youth is coming through.

Lojak

Lemlin wrote: »

I'd expect to be beating Longford in Breffni to be honest. They're no world beaters.

Still, of the starting 15, 7 were U21s from last year so at youth is coming through.

I think this is the only positive at the minute, hopefully the young lads keep developing well !!

Lemlin

Lojak wrote: »

I think this is the only positive at the minute, hopefully the young lads keep developing well !!

A new system was tested on Saturday evening as well with the half forwards dropping back a good bit so it appears Andrews is still doing tactical work to decide on his best starting 15.

cavan4sam

Lemlin wrote: »

A new system was tested on Saturday evening as well with the half forwards dropping back a good bit so it appears Andrews is still doing tactical work to decide on his best starting 15.

val u are fighting a losing battle here

Lemlin

cavan4sam wrote: »

val u are fighting a losing battle here

Go to the Hogan Stand if you are going to start that sh!te.

I'm not overly happy with Andrews but, as I've explained, multiple times, a good clearout is needed. For too many years, the Cavan panel has been a joke. The last 3 managers have complained about the attitude of the players.

If Andrews does little more than increase motivation and get the panel acting more professionally, he'll have done his job for the next man. Who hopefully will be Terry Hyland.

I'm not happy that a starting 15 hasn't been decided upon to be honest. By now, Val should know his starting 15 and system for the upcoming season. Two different 15s and varying tactics have been tested in both Leagues games and it isn't good enough at this stage. Not when the panel have been training since November.

On a more positive note, the league in Cavan started yesterday. Teams will be taking it more seriously this year with the shake up at the end.

Good wins at the weekend in Division 1 for the Gaels against Kingscourt, Gowna against Redhills, Ballinagh against Ramor, Lavey against Belturbet and Cuchulainns against Killygarry.

Tom Joad

Did anyone hear that Val was trying to get Brian Sheridan (brother of Meath player Joe) into the panel and he said no - read this in the indo but article was short on detail.

premierstone

Tom Joad wrote: »

Did anyone hear that Val was trying to get Brian Sheridan (brother of Meath player Joe) into the panel and he said no - read this in the indo but article was short on detail.

Has he left the Meath panel, was still on it up to last year IIRC? What's he's connection with Cavan?

Lemlin

premierstone wrote: »

Has he left the Meath panel, was still on it up to last year IIRC? What's he's connection with Cavan?

His father, Damien is from Maghera in Cavan and played for Cavan.

As his father is from Cavan, he'd qualify under the parent rule. Here's hoping Val goes after Barry Cahill from Dublin next!

I hadn't heard it Tom. Couldn't find any reference to it on the internet either when I tried googling it.

Here's an article from the Celt mentioning Joe and Brian's father:

http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2010/07/14/3998585-honest-joe--just-doing-what-any-forward-would-says

While the eyes of the sporting public - and beyond - have been fixed on the saga involving the unsavoury denouement to last Sunday's Leinster final between Louth and Meath, few have spared a thought for one of the men at the centre of the controversy, Joe Sheridan, a footballer with strong roots in Cavan.

The Senechalstown man carried the ball across the goal-line in the dying seconds of the final, denying Louth a first Leinster title in 53 years and has been harshly labelled as a 'cheat' in some quarters, a label Sheridan's father Damien, a native of Maghera, took issue with this week."Joe is the most honest player you will see, he has been fouled and taken a lot of abuse over the years and has never reacted to any of it in any shape or form. The ball was loose and he just reacted as any forward would, it was the last play of the match... No forward is going to stop and ask the ref should he play the ball. The word 'cheat' has been mentioned and there is no place for that at all.

"From Joe's point of view, the ball was there, two backs palmed it down to him and he grabbed it, he did swing a kick because he didn't know if he was even over the line or not.

"I've been involved in football for 40 years and there are loads of incidents like these. These things happen, every team has to get on with it."

Sheridan pointed out that the incident took place in the fifth minute of injury time when only three minutes of injury time had been signalled. It is thought that referee Martin Sludden played the additional time due to Louth's time wasting in injury time.

"Joe is a laid-back character and it takes a lot to get him annoyed but I'd say deep down it's bothering him a bit," said Damien. "He just plays the game and whether he wins Man of The Match or anything else, once it's over, it's over," he added.

Damien, who was a member of the last Cavan team to win an Ulster minor title in 1974, is a hugely popular figure in his native parish and a respected coach in Meath.

His father Eamon was chairman of the Breffni Minor Board, incidentally, on the year of that great win of 1974.He roundly condemned the scenes witnessed at the end of the match, when referee Martin Sludden was jostled and had to be escorted from the field,

"The human condition is to err, nobody is perfect but no human being should have to put up with being accosted or assaulted on the pitch after a match," stated Sheridan, who condemned the alleged assault on Meath legend Sean Boylan and also mentioned an alleged assault on a 75-year-old Meath supporter.

Meath county board met last Monday night and discussed the matter of a replay after calls from Louth officials and manager Peter Fitzpatrick.

It's unfair, argued Sheridan, that Meath are being asked to make a decision in such a tricky case in which they themselves are involved.

blackbelt

Lemlin wrote: »

Here's hoping Val goes after Barry Cahill from Dublin next![/url]

Here's hoping he doesn't.Barry is too much of an asset to Dublin to be lost to Cavan.He'll be a regular come the end of the league and start of the championship.

Tom Joad

Couldn't find it online but just dug out saturday's indo - its on Page 64 - just says that he was deemed surplus to requirements by Seamus McEnaney and on that basis Val Andrews approached him under the parent rule. However, Sheridan decided to stay with Meath.

Lemlin

Tom Joad wrote: »

Couldn't find it online but just dug out saturday's indo - its on Page 64 - just says that he was deemed surplus to requirements by Seamus McEnaney and on that basis Val Andrews approached him under the parent rule. However, Sheridan decided to stay with Meath.

I'd prefer not to see lads like that brought in anyway to be honest. We have some decent young lads coming through from the minors/U21s so need to keep working with them.

Jack Brady is holding his own for a star studded DCU team in both the O'Byrne and Sigerson competitions so here's hoping he can carry that form on for Cavan.

Lemlin

Good win on Saturday, although Sligo did lose their two first choice midfielders in the first five to ten minutes which meant Gearoid and Givney were dominant at midfield in the first half.

To race into the big lead and almost let them back into it wasn't good though. A last minute save on the line saved the points but I thought the ref should have blown it up by then. That was after the 3 extra minutes.

I was disappointed by management at times. When Sligo were in the ascendancy in the second half, the changes were too slow coming and that's been a common problem.

Alot of supporters have been saying that Val and his selectors are too slow to read the game and make the necessary changes and it definitely appeared like that on Saturday night.

Mark McKeever was a big addition and should stay in the team. The one worrying fact was that Damien Reilly was our third full back in three games now.

Tom Joad

Huge result for Cavan given the way the first two league games went. The result was always going to be the most important thing and while things went our way, the first half performance was very good.

It is a bit worrying that the sideline appears to be slow to make changes and this is becoming a bit of a trend from the games I have seen this year.

We did our best to throw the game away at the end but if ever a team needed a win it was this one and hopefully we can push on and get a bit of confidence going.

Pete_Cavan

McKeever was excellent and McDermott and Bud did well also. Fla cut out a lot of ball, especially in the first half, but wont get that much freedom in other matches. DJ is not the answer at full back and unless Moynagh is put back in there for the Tipp game, it could be four full backs in four games.

The two lads dominated midfield for much of the match Sligo didnt lose both midfielders, one went off with a blood injury (replaced temporarily by Tony Taylor) and shortly after he returned, the other went off (permanently replaced by Taylor). Losing Keating was as big a loss for us.

We got a bit complacent in the second half, Givney and Bud were over confident and took some very poor shots when they should have retained possession. That kind of thing nearly came back to haunt us and we will be punished against better teams.

Lemlin

Martin Dunne scored a few points but I thought he put alot more wide than he scored and I was disappointed that Ray Galligan didn't get a round out in place of him.

I see the Independent and a few papers gave Ronan Flanagan a 6 and low marks but I thought he played well. Theere seemed to be a tactic where the ball was worked out of defence and he followed it down the field, never being more than 15 foot away from it. It seemed to work well.

The wides certainly need to be worked on, as does the full back slot and the management team need to work on identifying changes that are needed promptly.

Lemlin

If one thing does my head in with regard to coverage of the county team, its the Celt. A decent 35 minutes of football and you'd swear from this week's edition that we'll be challenging Kerry and Dublin come July.

Quotes like "best half in years" don't do any of the panel any favours. Let's be honest, we've some decent players coming through, no real world beaters but some decent players who should be able to at least give us a few days out for a few Summers, if the draw is right in the qualifiers.

There's no point building them up as heroes now though. That's been done all too often in the past. We need to be realistic. 3 league games in and we've won one.

Mardy Bum

Paul Brady is playing Meath's Brian Carroll in the All Ireland 40X20 Handball Semi final on Saturday in St.Comans in Roscommon town. Promises to be a good game as Carroll is playing the handball of his life. Brady should win in two games however.