The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

Cavan_King · 13-11-2023 11:22pm

Option 3 voted in so we are back to evens. Option 1, to stay status quo at odds, wasn’t even proposed or seconded by the floor at the meeting so the voting came down to Option 3 & 4. The Gowna proposal did better than expected losing 34 votes to 54.

Option 3

• U12 with Go Games(non-competitive), U14, U16, U18

• Retain decoupling at U17 with at least one further age grade beyond U17. (currently U20 in

Cavan).

• Players in their 18th year can play or train with adult teams

Thunderbirds · 14-11-2023 9:11am

Option four was a brilliant option. So much football for players in it. Top table gave clarification on it after everyone had voted.

rrs · 14-11-2023 5:38pm

Michael Lyng taking over Cavan Gaels. He was joint manager of Ballybay this year with Johnston. Ballybay ended up in a relegation play off, after winning the championship the previous year.

Cavan_King · 14-11-2023 6:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121365754#Comment_121365754

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Option 4:

This has been suggested by the Youth Board followingconsultation on an initial proposal from the Gowna Cluband taking into account the views expressed at the last county board meeting involving Club Youth representatives. The Youth Board favours consideration of Option 4 as Decoupling at 17 is at the heart of our ability to provide a comprehensive games programme. The eligibility of 18-year-olds to play both Youth and Adult football impinges on our ability to design a fixture schedule. It would greatly impact on the scheduling of U18 matches. An 18-year-old cannot play two games at the weekend.

Proposed Under Age Competition Structures 2024:

Go Games

U13 League

U14 Special Condensed Competition (For Consideration - to be discussed in developing U13 fixture schedule)

U15 League

U16 Special Competition (Condensed competition to be developed in consultation with coaching and Games having regard to mid-week availability and the identification of free weekends in terms of Development Squad overlaps)

U18 League

U13 Championship

U14 Regional Competition (currently already in place at year end)

U15 Championship

U17 Championship (as per current format - increased u16 player participation)

U19 or U20 Competitions - to be considered and determined following Club's consideration.

Where any of the age grades outlined above were not included in the information circulated previously, this is because the structure, timing and running of said competitions have yet to be agreed by the Youth Board in consultation with Coaching and Games.

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Someone is telling you porkies.

There was no “clarification” given after the vote. All discussion was before. After the vote, the Gowna rep did put forward a motion for an U13 comp. This was proposed and seconded.

As one delegate raised during the initial discussion, there was very little point in further talk at the meeting anyway because every rep was there with a mandate from their club how to vote so were they to just change that because of a point made by someone on the night?

Re your point in option 4 “so much football for players in it”, I wouldn’t agree. A number of the comps listed state “condensed” beside them. That basically means they could be like the present U20 comp where you have 3/4 games run off in the depths of Winter. Should a juvenile player have the possibility of only 3 or 4 competitive games a year? Most presently get 7/8 League games and at least 3/4 championship games.

There is also the issue I raised previously re U18 League but U17 championship. As a delegate raised when all options were discussed prior to the vote, you are simply kicking the issue backwards because 15 & 16 year olds would get very little football unless they are outstanding players.

It is also very difficult to run teams across trainers etc for all these different age groupings.

Sometimes when you try to balance between too many stools, you fall flat on your face.

Thunderbirds · 15-11-2023 11:42am

I was at the meeting, after votes were cast Martin Cahill clarified things on option 4. Surely should have been done before hand. And of course they're condensed, see how many competitions were proposed.

Cavan_King · 15-11-2023 7:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370590#Comment_121370590

I was at the meeting also, I don’t remember any clarification. What clarification did he give ?

Brian Seagrave spoke in support of Option 4 and the Gowna lads aren’t shy if they felt anything further needed to be added.

As already advised, clubs attending had mandates from their coaches/members so the work had to be done prior to the meeting.

Yes, and condensed competitions are useless. You’ll do well to find anyone who praises the current U20 competition.

Cavan_King · 16-11-2023 9:32pm

Gearoid gone back to Swad and retiring from intercounty.

celt262 · 17-11-2023 12:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121372541#Comment_121372541

Which one of ye were sleeping/dreaming at the meeting 😁

baconsarnie · 17-11-2023 1:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121377488#Comment_121377488

Are you stating that as a known fact or are you cutting and pasting from a lad on Facebook that you've slagged off here?

Bear in mind you did state a few lads had retired only for them to pop up at the launch of the new jersey a few days later....

rrs · 17-11-2023 1:52pm

I heard around the time of the Cavan Gaels v Kingscourt game in the championship that he was leaving the Gaels. He'll be 34 next year but would give Swad a lift in the Junior Championship. One or 2 stand out players make a big difference at that level.

baconsarnie · 17-11-2023 2:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121379760#Comment_121379760

Everyone has heard plenty of rumours. Everyone knows he had a big knee operation in the summer. I don't think the final county decision has been reached yet.

rrs · 17-11-2023 4:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121379981#Comment_121379981

I don't know anything about the County situation. I remember when he did to move to Cavan Gaels hearing he intended to go back to Swad, to finish his career.

Cavan_King · 17-11-2023 9:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121379671#Comment_121379671

The transfer is up on on the listed transfers.

I don’t remember slagging off Mr Tynan, are you mixing me up with someone else?

Whose the “few lads” I said retired that popped up at a jersey launch?

You remember my posts better than I do! Thanks for taking such good notice.

I also said I heard Killian Clarke was going to the Gaels, which I did, but sure you can’t get all right.

cavan4sam · 18-11-2023 1:24pm

When are the national league fixtures out?

I know the 1st 2 are set but the rest I was wondering about

Cavan_King · 18-11-2023 2:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121384061#Comment_121384061

We Are Cavan had them. The provisional ones are set and don’t really change.

cavan4sam · 18-11-2023 2:55pm

Thanks

celt262 · 20-11-2023 9:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121382095#Comment_121382095

Where are these listed transfers?

baconsarnie · 20-11-2023 10:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121382095#Comment_121382095

For a lad that spends a fair bit of his time on here sealioning other posters demanding answers, it's a shame you don't keep track of your own posts.

I suppose if you did, you might have to remain consistent.

Cavan_King · 21-11-2023 9:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121393857#Comment_121393857

Football is full of opinions and they can change. For example, I thought Mickey Graham was a superb appointment in December 2020. Three years later, I am of a different opinion. Hindsight is a great thing.