The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

rrs

Mullinghta would never have won the Leinster Club against Kilmacud if it was played on a fast pitch in summer. The conditions of winter football suited them like Cavan in 2020. But they are both very good achievements for Mickey Graham.

A few Donegal supporters would like him as next manager

etuzyuk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846612#Comment_120846612

Lower than Division 4?

Cavan_King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845119#Comment_120845119

Is nitpicking that I’m out by, what, maybe a year the best you can do? The crux of the point remains the same.

It’s the manager sets the tone and sends the team out to play. It’s he who deals with disciplinary issues.

The players can shoulder some blame but the buck stops with management for performances.

Cavan_King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120845188#Comment_120845188

The point was mentioned and put forward as a potential excuse. Why even mention it?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846775#Comment_120846775

League position doesn't tell the full story. The 2022 team was miles ahead of the team we had around 2010 who managed to stay in Div 3.

mylestheslasher

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846910#Comment_120846910

It's a podcast where people chat, not a white paper or thesis.

mylestheslasher

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120846775#Comment_120846775

You can't go lower than division 4. However if you spent 3/4 years in division 3 you would look back at the Graham era with an element of jealousy. A long stint in 3/4 is a real possibility looking at our underage results.

rrs

It's a possibility, but Louth have done nothing underage and Mickey Harte has them as a solid Division 2 team. Armagh while they have a lot of hype and a few good players, have done nothing underage in a long time. Meath won a Minor All Ireland recently but very little else underage in the past 10 years.

There is always 2 or 3 from an underage team capable of stepping up, but would be better to get the winning Culture back underage like they had from 2011- 14.

Cavan_King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120847344#Comment_120847344

Nobody said it was a thesis but you said they didn’t mention it as a reason why. If they weren’t mentioning it as a potential excuse, why mention it?

The national media seem to be ignoring the three successive relegations but our local media should have better knowledge of the situation.

As another poster said, a shortened Covid League is not an excuse for relegation to Div 4. It was the same for every team that year. A shocking statistic is we played 5 competitive games that year and won one.

mylestheslasher

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120848082#Comment_120848082

No one is arguing it wasn't a bad year lad. It was a terrible year actually. I think if you hosted wearecavan it would be listening to the death notices on the radio. They have to provide some balance and indeed some optimism. I think they last few county relates podcasts were fair and struck the right tone. They mentioned plenty of failures of Graham for example but for some reason you only want to knock them down for the positives they mentioned.

Cavan_King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120848116#Comment_120848116

I listen to the podcast and have always been an advocate of it but I feel they have gone far too light on Graham. He had one of our most talented groups of players ever and spent years languishing in the Lower Divisions with them.

celt262

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120848680#Comment_120848680

There is conflict of interest with them because of the work they do with the Celt in that they don't want to damage future relations with certain people and be snubbed then when the Celt comes looking for an interview. It's all a bit of back rubbing.

mylestheslasher

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120849139#Comment_120849139

With respect these people are all amateurs and/or volunteers. Do you think it is even possible for a podcast or local paper to go to town on Graham or any other coach/volunteer and then expect them to somehow be compelled to still give you interviews etc when you want them. Its not the premier league professional soccer we are dealing with. I would say every local paper and podcast in the country has the same practical restrictions. I heard enough balanced criticism of Mickey in the last podcast over the weeks 1 - he should take credit for good time but also accept responsibility for bad times, 2- He shouldnt have gone to club teams when he was over Cavan, 3- I heard criticism of how team was set up against Armagh and Down, especially his use of Gearoid. I am not sure what else you think they can say??

celt262

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120849181#Comment_120849181

I don't think it is me you should be asking those questions off i just stated the position that the lads are in.

rrs

Donal Keoghan one of the 4 nominated for the U20 job. Larry Reilly,Brian Donahoe and Keelan Melaniff the others.

Wouldn't know much about Melaniff. He's from Laois orginally, would have been involved with the development squads and Laragh when they won the Intermediate.

mylestheslasher

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120850275#Comment_120850275

I wouldnt let him near it unless he had a personality transplant since I last met him

celt262

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120850275#Comment_120850275

If it goes to a club vote Keoghan would have a good chance but he wouldn't be the right man for it.

rrs

Keoghan would always have a strong backroom team which could help his vote. Donahoe won Intermediate last year with Castlerahan and with Ballinagh in 2020. Managed the ladies team. Larry Reilly was joint manager of the Minors a few years ago with Danny Brady. Managing his own club Knockbride who are in League Semi finals.

Cavan_King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120850275#Comment_120850275

Melaniff did an interview with JMac before. He seems very interested in coaching and even coached American Football while in the US.

He was involved with Jody Devine in both Laragh & Killygarry. A lot from both clubs would say he did the bulk of the work. I believe Killygarry tried to get him without Jody but he didn’t go for it.

Cavan_King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120849181#Comment_120849181

Where did anyone say they had to “go to town”? The fact is the last three years have been fairly terrible when you look back over them and think of the squad he had at his disposal.

Cavan_King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120851222#Comment_120851222

Is it not a few years since Larry managed Knockbride? Do they not have one of the coaches who left Breffni now?

celt262

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120851222#Comment_120851222

I think Aidan McCabe is over Knockbride.

Keoghan didn't have much of a backroom team the time that he was over the county seniors.

rrs

It must be the Minors Larry Reilly is over in knockbride. He managed the Seniors last year?

Keoghan had a few names around when he was manager. Paul Grimley, Julie Davis

Thunderbirds

Aiden was over them last year too. Was Larry player manager at one stage? In goals?

Cavan_King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120851976#Comment_120851976

Yeah, he was the year they lost to Killinkere when Emmet Fitz chipped him with a last minute goal.

Think McCabe is there the last two years.

Cavan_King

If only Down had played like that against us - it was like watching juveniles and constantly roaring at them to put the ball over the bar rather than trying to walk it into the net.

tayto lover

How did Cavan lose to that Down team?? Then again they lost to Antrim and Fermanagh.

Hammar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120855308#Comment_120855308

Meath didn't let them play and pushed them around with their size, We allowed them to kick short kick outs when we dwarfed them with Clarke and Gearoid at midfield.

We were tactically inept,Meath weren't ,they had their homework done,fair play to them, the far better team today.

rrs

Yeah Meath over powered them around the middle. A few big units like Jack Flynn, Matthew Costello.

Meath are still ordinary enough. Went 24 minutes without scoring at mid way through.

mylestheslasher

Depressing watching that final, two very average teams that Cavan should be beating. Graham must be sick looking at how Meath physically dominated Down by pushing up on them, a tactic everyone knew that Cavan should have replicated against them but for some bizarre reason didn't. Meath were probably helped by the **** weather. Another lost opportunity.