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The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I read it that you were arguing the point. Like I said, McCabe is head GDO so he'd have access to plenty of information to be able to pick a team to attach himself too. He's hearing about alot of these players from primary level which is when his coaches start working with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Cookstown won the All Ireland intermediate in 2009 when they beat Lavey in the Ulster final. They had Mulligan playing for them then. Have they won it again since that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭rrs


    Yeah they Finuge in 2013

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mulligans-cookstown-shatter-finuge-dream-29060356.html


    A few of the Tyrone clubs seem to yo yo between the grades. Rock won a Junior titles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭rrs


    I wonder is the structure of the Cavan Club championship, a hindrance more then a help ,in preparation for Ulster. Denn played 8 games to win Junior including Semi final replay.


    That's a long slog before Ulster. I think 4 group games is too much in Cavan. The 4th game are usually dead rubbers. They play straight knockout in Tyrone. I don't think its the fairest system either, maybe a backdoor system instead of 4.group games is better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭cherrytaz


    Not forgetting Cillian Sheridan who was midfield at only 15 years old and dominated both games in Crossmaglen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭rrs


    Barry Watters aswell Played 2 years underage with the International rules team.

    He was 16 then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I like the present system but, the issue is, we've too many clubs, as I've said before. The population isn't there to support 40 clubs. I know there's some here who will die on the sword that their parish deserves their own team but it's not feasible to have 40 competitive teams with our low population.

    Players prefer playing games anyway so I'm sure those Denn lads will tell you they'd prefer to be playing games than training.

    In fairness to Donohoe on the pod, it is something he has mentioned - in some clubs the ratio of training sessions to games is way too high.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭rrs


    It's a decent system. The draw each Sunday evening can make it exciting but the overall standard of football poor enough.

    Paul Fitzpatrick done a poll recently on Twitter and a lot agreed the overall standard was poor. There has been some highlights like Gowna resurgence and Butlersbridge winning Intermediate.

    Some of the Tyrone club games be on Rte and it's really high standard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭piplip87


    What do we reckon today ? I'm going with Ramor by 2. Talking to a few of the lads during the week, there seems to be a quiet confidence that was missing in the last final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,428 ✭✭✭tanko


    Has Cavstream crashed???



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,428 ✭✭✭tanko


    Working now, pity Sheanon wouldn’t have a power failure, such a dose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭piplip87


    Very poor game today. Both teams had some awful moments. Clarke however was absolutely useless, blowing frees for pulling the Jersey when he could have let the game continue. Missed Cole getting an elbow in the face, missed a few possible black cards too. All in all he was consistently bad for both sides.

    Some lovely scores, some of the big men didn't show up either so it could be a good replay.

    Where did the last minute go ? He took a walk down to the umpire for a chat and came back and blew it up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,428 ✭✭✭tanko


    Has there ever been a worse half of football played than the second half today. As for Pat Clarke, three minutes of injury time called and he barely plays two. Those Clarke lads are an embarrassment to Cavan club football, shocking refereeing yet again. Knowing the county board they’ll probably give the other lad the replay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Thunderbirds


    How can a Killinkere man referee Ramor also???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,428 ✭✭✭tanko


    That was strange alrite, I thought Ramor got frees easier than Gowna, maybe i missed a couple of things Gowna players did tho. I didn’t care who won but was very disappointed with the standard of football. The lack of composure from both forward lines was incredible at times. Gowna looked sluggish for some reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭benjy1000


    Bit harsh to say they are an embarrassment to Cavan football.

    Its easy to ref a game from the stands.

    how many chances did gowna need to win it. Kicked three bad wides at the end & the county “stars” should have had two goals between them but that’s the refs fault aswell I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Gowna are a young team and it was a big day for them. Their nerves showed I thought. Ramor were going well until the first black card.

    Conor Brady was the pick of the county players on display in my opinion. He really drove at Ramor.

    Being a ref is not an easy job and I salute anyone who does it but your best referees should be handling the biggest games. Noel Mooney has intercounty and Ulster club experience and was wasted on the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,428 ✭✭✭tanko


    I never said the wides were the refs fault. Clarke has form for years reffing games, he’s a terrible referee. any explaination for the injury time not being played?? I thought the days of referees manufacturing draws were over but obviously not.

    Checking to see if a player was already booked before making a decision on tackles was laughable also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭baconsarnie


    I thought the first half was very enjoyable but nerves clearly played a factor for both teams in the second half. Ramor were really well set up to stop Gowna's running game (albeit they still managed to create 2 clear cut goal chances and their first two scores could have conceivably been goal chances). Work rate was exceptional in closing down spaces and lots of intense tackling. Couldn't believe the amount of turnovers when Gowna were on the attack but that was mostly down to super Ramor pressure (and some nerves as well).

    Conor Brady, as he has been all season, was superb. Brilliant performance from O Connell but having him do a man-marking job on Madden kinda robs Peter to pay Paul as I would love to see him out further out the field. Was seriously impressed by Donoghue's equalising score. For a young lad who has had an amazing season to take that on, is a good sign. When he's had a no-show in the final but still backs himself to take on that kick, that is even more impressive.

    Thought the first black card seemed harsh but the second one was clear and there could have been a few others. It's an odd one: both teams will have left the field feeling that they both could have won it and at the same time be glad to leave the field getting another crack at it. Ramor with two black cards would fancy their chances if they keep a full 15. Gowna's young lads will benefit from (presumably) being less nervous for the replay.

    Usually a drawn game like this doesn't lead to another close encounter (see last year's final for one) and if that's the case then I don't see Gowna coughing up as many turnovers or missing the scores that they should have taken to get them over the line. I can't help feeling that this one will be close and that Ramor will put everything on the line again on Sunday so another close affair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,731 ✭✭✭celt262




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭rrs


    What's the situation regarding extra time in Cavan..I seen before then Derry.final yesterday there would be extra time if the game was a draw, and then a reply if still level.

    Is it just about the County board having another pay day? Cavan was the only county in Ireland to have a replay last year when.covid was rampant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    In fairness a replay is probably the fairest way. I remember Colm Parkinson on The GAA Hour giving great praise to Cavan last year for allowing both teams to go at it again - the first game had been live on RTE. I think the problem with the draw on Sunday was the ref spent a good 1 minute of the added 3 minutes time consulting with his umpires and then blew the whistle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,731 ✭✭✭celt262


    Anyone hear what the attendance was last Sunday?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭rrs



    The Junior final was called off last year because of a covid case in Templeport. There could have a covid case involving Crosserough and Kingscourt before the replay which would have put the game back months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭rrs


    It was more the reason to have extra time when Rte were showing the game also. The RTE commentary even said they hoped it would be extra time as it was such a good game. They weren't going to be showing the replay, can only show a select amount of games..


    Hard to call this weekend again, maybe the drawn game will stand to the younger Gowna players, they started off nervous last week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭piplip87


    Days like this don't come around to often. What a first half performance by Ramor went a bit more defensive the second half but well deserved. Session in Virginny tonight lads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Fair play to them. I don’t think too many expected them win going into it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Oisin Pierson was a big loss for them. He was going well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭baconsarnie


    Well done Ramor, that was some performance, especially that opening quarter. Credit to management they got their battles spot on and tactically they put a number on Gowna. I was wondering if they could match last week's intensity but in some areas they surpassed it. James Brady will naturally get the plaudits but Ado Cole was superb and Ramor's willingness to kick the ball in quickly caused Gowna all sorts of problems.

    You could far for a young side that was 9 points down and looking back at missed opportunities from the previous week, but that Gowna team showed a lot of heart even if they never once created the goal chance they were going to need. I thought Mark McKeever was outstanding and when the chips were down he drove his team forward. As noted above, Pierson had kicked two great scores and was looking like he might do damage so his injury was unfortunate. But regardless you got the sense that no matter how close they got Ramor had enough to add on a few scores to keep them at arms length.

    My player of the championship would be Conor Brady but James Brady wouldn't be a million miles off either. Hopefully the former brings that form into midfield for the county and the latter can finally be convinced to join the panel. He's easily been the best corner forward in the county for the last 3 years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭piplip87


    Jaysus some night in Virginia last night. There's a real sense though that this team has not peaked yet and it seems from chatting to some of the lads they are really up for a run in Ulster. If we manage to start well against Kilco who knows what's possible.



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