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[Diabetes] General Chat and Support Thread



  • Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Kremin

    Hey all,

    Firstly some positive news, I seen today that Libre 2 is now an option to self fund and get funded from the hse! Anyone have experience with using the l2 and how it compares to Dexcom? I used the Libre 1 for a few months before I got prescribed the G7. I’d love to try the Libre 2 and potentially swap over if it worked well but they won’t even let me have a trial sensor because I used Libre 1 previously.

    secondly, kind of looking for advice and/or experiences. All consultants I currently see are part of the public system. My gastro related issues are continuing to worsen and worsen which is severely impacting my personal life. I had to fight so hard just to get my appointment moved up a few weeks and the consultant barely even looked at me for more than a glance. I’m considering, if possible, asking my gp to refer me to a private consultant. I have never gone through this before, is it possible to be referred privately for one thing but also remain under the other various consultants I see in the public system? Is it worth it? I do understand the healthcare situation is under immense pressure and these clinics are always booked up for months and months but unfortunately I don’t think I can keep living and waiting 7-9 months at a time just to be dismissed by this guy again

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭banie01

    Hi Kremln,

    On the Libre 2 option, I was in with my Endo yesterday and he said he prefers the Libre 2 to the Dexcom G7 on basis of both cost (if self funding) and the format of the reports. The 14 day sensor life of Libre 2 Vs the 10 day life of Dexcom was also something he preferred.

    That said, I'm on Dexcom G7 and I'm quite happy with it now. The 1st 3 months I was using it, I had 40%+ rate of failure on the sensors. Dexcom did replace every faulty one but, I did fear the whole system was flawed in my 1st 3 months or so of usage.

    On a different note. How are the insulin dependent among us getting on? I usually adjust my basal at night to try and keep Lantus need to a minimum and offset the risk of insulin related weight gain. After going over my reports yesterday, my Endo recommended a more than 10% jump in my basal.

    Fully appreciate that he wants to tighten up my HbA1C, that said yesterday's was a 56 and that's better than I expected after an awful few months. I am stuck between a rock and a hard place on the insulin Vs activity issue. Ongoing pain issue mean any exercise is very restricted. My fear is that upping basal will lead to a spiral of upping basals and further weight gain.

    Any tips on mitigating that? Will be very appreciated.

    To all on this corner of boards. Merry Christmas and happy new year! May 2024 bring us all better control & happier Endo s😁

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  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭gary29428

    Hi Folks

    My 14yr old son was recently diagnosed with Type1. We are getting on top of everything now and he's doing good. He is a super keen rugby player and is mad to get back training and playing.....looking for advice on pre game/training insulin injection....have read how parents give maybe half the shot required, but what if I do that in anticipation of him playing the whole game but he comes off with a knock after 5mins....would imagine his level would spike.

    Any advise is greatly appreciated, how others handle there kids sports and type 1.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle

    Are you in a financial position you could take up less painful exercise like a spinning bike (I'm a cyclist, all I could think of, I am sure there are others). As for the basal fear, I know that concern. It's hard to give advice as everyone is different. If you can keep your bloods in range without it, then I wouldn't but if your just bolusing alot, then you are just codding yourself. This said, diet and exercise can take a big sting out of it if you can find a way around the pain issues.

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle

    It won't spike, it will rise and you can correct afterwards. Be careful of correcting to quickly as bloods can spike temporarily with sudden, intense, bursts of exercise. It will be a learning curve but as he is young, don't try to get it perfect for the first while. Better to run a little high and learn what works than have a hypo.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭banie01

    Thanks for the reply. I'm lucky enough to have access to a rowing machine and some other gear at home that I can use without too much pain. The nature of the pain issue rules out any cycling, even though I have a fairly decent mountain bike. Fully agree with you that additional bolusing is just kidding myself. I have another referral sent off to a neuro-urology specialist and hopefully something good will come of that.

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle

    Preaching to the converted I am sure but if your aim is simply keepng your BG in check, then as much low intensity exercise as you can manage. Increases insulin sensitivity and basically ignore athlete training advice, don't feed to train or achieve muscle growth, just only want you need to get by. Try and wrap up any exercise before you get any hunger urges or bonk, thats about it. Not much else you can do. Easier said than done with persistant pain issues, but not sure there is much else to say until you get more help with that.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭BlackEdelweiss

    Can someone refresh my memory please. When counting carbs do I use the total carb figure or the sugars only component?

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭banie01

    AFAICR, at my last nutrition course emphasised that it's total carbs, not just "of which sugars".

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Rulmeq

    Hey guys, looking for some advice here, My HbA1c has been rising for past several months (no dietary changes, and I've increased my exercise levels considerably), to the point where my endocrinologist prescribed Semaglutide (Ozempic). I went to my usual pharmacy and they told me the only get a small allocation, and that they can't fill it for me. So I guess my question is what do I do? Should I try and find a pharmacy that does have it (not sure how I would even go about that, and I'm going to assume that since there's a global shortage, there's not going to be anyone with it). Has anyone else experienced this? Should I just go onto insulin instead, or is there some sort of a waiting list I can go on (how do I get on it)?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,284 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail

    try every pharmacy close to you. just phone them all. if you find one that has it ask your regular pharmacy to send it to them. there still is something of a shortage but not as bad as it was last year. i've been on it for 18 months. it has been a difficult 18 months. I wont lie. the first 12 were the worst. it has eased off since then but i still get days where the nausea is such that I cant really eat. on the plus side i am 30Kg lighter and wearing the same clothes size as i was 30 years ago.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Rulmeq

    Thank you, I will try this. Fair play to you on the weight too!

  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Donutz

    Anybody on here taking levemir? Just heard its being discontinued.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭leche solara

  • Registered Users Posts: 35 jimmyrusseII

    hi all,

    have some concerns that I might be diabetic, I have the following symptoms

    Constant Thirst even though I drink a lot of water (2 -3 litres per day on average)

    Waking up with numbness in hands

    Waking up with extremely dry mouth

    Heart palpitations

    Profuse sweating

    These symptoms are all exacerbated when I eat too much sugar.

    No, I went to my GP with those concerns and he immediately dismissed them as I am not overweight and I go to the gym regularly, I took a urine and blood test and both came back negative, but I still have the same symptoms. In anyone's experience can a diabetes diagnosis be missed by those tests?

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle

    What urine/blood tests? A BG tester from your pharmacy and do fingerprick tests will give you a good indication but even if it's not diabetes, it's not nothing and needs investigation.

  • Registered Users Posts: 40,284 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail

    A finger prick or urine test (I presume they mean a dipstick type test) don't tell you very much on their own. You need a hba1c test. When I first went to my gp she did the dipstick test and told me I didn't have diabetes. She took some blood for a hba1c and that confirmed I did.

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle

    A glucose tolerance test will give you quite a good idea actually, very simple, overnight fast. Take a test, then take a test every 15 minutes for about 4 hours. Drink a large cup of orange juice or sugary soda at 30 minutes, look at the spike and return to base time.

    This aside, with those symptoms, definely worth getting a full work up regardless, hence why I asked what blood/urine tests were done. Was it a dipstick and finger prick (as you said, singularly will tell you nothing) or was it a full vial taken and a HbA1c done, antibody, C peptide etc, as well as urines sent away for metabolites, glucose, protein and more.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭banie01

    A little PSA for any of the folks here taking any SGLT-2 inhibitors, the likes of Jardiance, Farxiga and other drugs. If you are awaiting elective or planned surgery?

    1st be sure to flag it to your operating consultant, as you will need to stop taking them pre-op. There is a significantly increased risk of DKA (still small but statistically relevant)

    I had a surgery cancelled on Monday as despite providing my list of meds at a consult and again on the morning of the op, the risk wasn't spotted until the Anaesthetist was reviewing my file.

    Delighted to know that the cross checking and verification worked. I was on the trolley in pre-op when it was spotted and the surgery cancelled. Frustrating of course, but far better to be safe than sorry.

    In the announcement, the FDA tells patients taking SGLT-2 inhibitors canagliflozin, dapagliflozin, and empagliflozin to discontinue the medication for 72 hours prior to the scheduled surgery. For patients taking the SGLT-2 inhibitor ertugliflozin, patients should cease taking it 96 hours prior to their scheduled surgery. For all of these medications, the FDA recommends resuming treatment of type 2 diabetes with the medication as soon as the risk factors for ketoacidosis have dissipated.

    Patients are advised to never stop taking a medication without consulting with a medical professional to discuss potential repercussions.

  • Registered Users Posts: 40,284 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail

    this must be a new thing. i had surgery 4 or 5 years ago and this was never mentioned.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭banie01

    Since 2020 in the US and not long after in the EU. The Anaesthetist said there was a case in the recent past of a patient in Tallaght unfortunately passing away with SGLT-2 medication identified as a contributing factor.

    The evidence is still under review but the current practice is to stop SGLT-2 for 3 full days pre-op.

    Some more reading here.

  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Donutz

    I'm under the care of the diabetes team from UL hospital group and they don't provide insulin pumps to adult type 1 diabetics. I have considered getting referred to Cork or Galway by my GP just so I can get a pump.

    Does anybody know if this is actually possible to do?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭Ezeoul

    Thanks for this. I'm having surgery soon, as I started on Jardiance in February so will mention it at my next appointment.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭banie01

    Sometimes the triggers that can spike BG should be blatantly obvious, and yet? One can labour on oblivious to it.

    A case in point. My having a BG spike and slow decline in the mornings. I tend to wake high in the mornings anyway but over the past week I noticed that I wasn't getting the continued rise and slow drop that I'm used to. I had somehow stumbled into having a decent BG that plateaud and responded nearly normally.

    I spent a little while wondering what had changed before I walked into the kitchen and the "obvious" slapped me silly 🤦‍♀️

    I have a bean 2 cup coffee machine that was out of service for a week or so whilst I serviced it as I was waiting on a part.

    Anyway it occurred tome that the improvement in my BG corresponded with the machine being out of order. I was still drinking coffee, so I knew caffeine wasn't the trigger.

    Then it dawned on me. My usual morning coffee(s) were 2 big lattes made with lots of milk and 2 shots of coffee. It was the milk, I completely forgot to take the bloody milk into account!

    Anyway, from now on, it's big Americanos with lattes reserved for treats and weekends 👍

  • Registered Users Posts: 2 dianaadrr

    My sister was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. That is so sad to hear

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle

    It's annoying and upsetting for her but your pity won't be of any use (apologies, but it just won't help), so here is my view, maybe it is good news in the long run. I used to get down about my Diabetes until I realised how without it, I wouldn't be as disciplined as I am (and I am not that disciplined), but Diabetes has probably added 30 years to my life provided nothing else happens. Take the positives from it, regular check ups, a drive for more exercise and diet adjustments etc. something to focus on. Since it is Type 2, there is also the possibility that the side effects can either be slowed in their progression or even reversed. Tell her to get involved in some of the online groups who love to help out (Daibetes Ireland on FB, here, etc.). Ask questions about what is happening, what each drug does etc, but pity is only good for the first day, after that she needs your support and a positive twist on this, because it takes work to do well with Diabetes and she will need someone to remind her that with a bit of effort she will have as long and as healthy a life, possibly better, than she would have had without it.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭banie01

    This is one of those good news, bad news kind of posts for me. The bad news, I had surgery towards the end of last month for a chronic serious pain issue. The surgery went well, and the 1st 10 days after the op, I had near zero pain. The longest span of pain-free time I've had in 5yrs. Mobility was good and everything looked and felt resolved. Alas, it was too good to be true and the pain returned with a vengeance.

    I am trying to look on the bright side for now. The op definitely disrupted whatever is causing the issue and there is likely another couple of surgeries possible, that may nix the issue. It's going to be mid July before the surgeon takes another look.

    So, currently I'm back to being either immobile and swaddled in ice packs, or, mobile and relying on opioids to stay upright.

    The lack of mobility and the myriad of neuropathic and analgesic meds aren't helping my BG and the last visit to the Endo in December, he wanted to push my basal out to minimum 50iu.

    Like most, I find when I push up my basal that I gain weight. Between December and mid March, I added 13kg 🫤 not the end of the world, it's brought me up to 110kg but I'm 195cm tall so I don't look as fat as I am 🤣

    Anyway as I'm fairly immobile currently, I can't exercise. So I started paying a bit more attention to my food and my basal.

    Just being a tad more careful has helped me to knock the basal back down to 40iu. I've also massively improved both my time in range and hopefully, based on my Dexcom at least, my Hba1c, my December 23 A1c was a 58. Dexcom is telling me that my current A1c is tracking for 49 or lower and I'm managing 83% time in range.

    Its the only aspect of my health I have any real control over at the moment, so fingers crossed I can at least maintain it 👍

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,791 ✭✭✭ebbsy

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,791 ✭✭✭ebbsy

    So I am just back from Newcastle after getting another 6 months of the Noctura 400 glasses. £600.

    No changes in eye pressure/ reading ability/fluid. The back of the eye is stable. (They have hospital standard equipment there).

    Next month I will have a routine check up in Adelaide Road.

    This mask is now used in all major eye hospitals in the UK. It should be used here as well.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭banie01

    Thanks Ebbsy, much appreciated.

    Great to read that the Noctura is still proving effective for you and that it's benefit is being recognised by more NHS trusts.

    I'm still on 6 monthly DRS appointments and whilst I've managed to stay stable. I can't help but feel some proactive measures like Noctura could be a benefit, not just for me but for everyone who's retinopathy is caught early enough to manage conservatively.