When do eyes creases become eye wrinkles?

Poor Craythur

So I messing around with my digital camera last night, taking stupid pictures with the Mammykins, and goddamn it, flash photographs are a cruel mistress.

There was a few photos where my face was scrunched up and my eyelids looked shockingly crepey in them.

So, for the first time in my 26 years, I've begun to notice wrinkles. When I smile, I have plenty of creases. They smooth out, but yeah, they're there when I smile.

I have to admit, I have never moisturised in my life. I have oily skin so never bothered. Boy, am I regretting that now. On the plus side, I don't smoke, don't stay out in strong sunshine for long, have never been into sunbathing and don't wear much make-up. My parents aren't very wrinkly for their 50s so I think maybe I've brought this on myself.

And now I'm paranoid I have more creases than my friends.

Aging is a bitch!

Count Duckula

Hey, this may not be the response you're looking for in tLL as I'm a man, but I don't mean the following in a gender sense just an overall one: people always notice far more flaws in themselves than other people do.

Eye creases are a natural by-product of aging. Not age, just aging. The typical age considered by society to be in your "prime" currently is someone in their early-thirties (look at the models and actors of both genders adorning our media), and by that age nearly everyone will have eye creases. They're not unattractive, and whatsmore nobody else will even notice!

Don't worry about your eye-creases, and certainly don't start fearing this spells the start of a rigorous routine of anti-aging. Enjoy yourself - you're only twenty-six for goodness' sakes!

Poor Craythur

Poor Craythur wrote: »

So I messing around with my digital camera last night, taking stupid pictures with the Mammykins,

I'm not the only one who says that? :eek:

I'm 26 and I have to admit, I have never moisturised in my life. I have oily skin so never bothered.

I was told when getting a facial that the skin needs to be moisturised to stop it getting so oily. It seems counter intuitive but it seems to be true. I don't wear makeup during the day, so my skin does get oily unless i've put moisturiser on. I don't care about creases but from that POV, you should get into the habit.

Poor Craythur

Count Duckula wrote: »

Hey, this may not be the response you're looking for in tLL as I'm a man, but I don't mean the following in a gender sense just an overall one: people always notice far more flaws in themselves than other people do.

Eye creases are a natural by-product of aging. Not age, just aging. The typical age considered by society to be in your "prime" currently is someone in their early-thirties (look at the models and actors of both genders adorning our media), and by that age nearly everyone will have eye creases. They're not unattractive, and whatsmore nobody else will even notice!

Don't worry about your eye-creases, and certainly don't start fearing this spells the start of a rigorous routine of anti-aging. Enjoy yourself - you're only twenty-six for goodness' sakes!

I do think you're right - we do pick at our own flaws. Thing is, I kinda like wrinkles on men, but for some reason I think society isn't as kind on women when it comes to wrinkles.

On the subject of models, only the very best known ones can continue working in their thirties. It's an incredibly cut throat profession. Even early twenties is considered too old generally to try and break into the profession. A girl I know who is 27 is trying to get into it at the moment - don't fancy her chances!

Poor Craythur

bluewolf wrote: »

I'm not the only one who says that? :eek:

I still call my parents Mammy and Daddy. Anything else sounds contrived! And yes, Mammykins get trotted out a lot. But I put 'kins' on the end of a lot of things.

Example 1 "Right, I'm off to bedikins".

Example 2: Calling my cat whose name is not Farty 'Fartykins'

Morgase

I'm the very same, OP. I'm 29 and noticing these little lines now. I'm even finding that on the rare occasion that I wear makeup, the stupid eyeliner is running into the lines which accentuates the wrinkles even more

Maybe I'm just hypersensitive to it because I'm feeling weird about turning 30 soon, but I'm beginning to regret not moisturising!

Poor Craythur

Morgase wrote: »

I'm the very same, OP. I'm 29 and noticing these little lines now. I'm even finding that on the rare occasion that I wear makeup, the stupid eyeliner is running into the lines which accentuates the wrinkles even more

Maybe I'm just hypersensitive to it because I'm feeling weird about turning 30 soon, but I'm beginning to regret not moisturising!

Yeah, my sister was always on at me to moisturise. She's two years older than me, and has better skin.

And there has been rumblings in my mind (quickly dismissed) when applying eye make-up in the last year or so that my eyelids just aren't as springy as they once were, but last night's photos brought it home.

Dudess

Poor Craythur wrote: »

I kinda like wrinkles on men, but for some reason I think society isn't as kind on women when it comes to wrinkles.

Well that's true, but it's more for professions where looks are really important. In everyday life, it's really not noticed. Wrinkles only make a person look very aged when there are lots of them and they're very deep. Early-stage ones aren't noticeable unless pointed out by the person who has them. It's true that people are usually their own worst critics. So just get cracking on the moisturising - and drink lots of water. I started moisturising regularly quite late too - at 26 (when I noticed fine lines on my forehead) and my skin hasn't really changed since then and I'm nearly 33! Now I know some of that is genetic - I do have good skin - but when I don't moisturise, I definitely notice a difference in terms of how the skin feels.

Count Duckula

As a question, and please feel free to delete this mods if it's inappropriate, but would moisturising cure oily and greasy skin on a man too? I don't really give a toss in terms of what other people might think of me (I know my girlfriend wouldn't care), but I can have really nasty skin sometimes.

Count Duckula

Count Duckula wrote: »

As a question, and please feel free to delete this mods if it's inappropriate, but would moisturising cure oily and greasy skin on a man too? I don't really give a toss in terms of what other people might think of me (I know my girlfriend wouldn't care), but I can have really nasty skin sometimes.

Probably

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Scarinae

More and more I'm noticing that my 28-year-old flatmate is really conscious of her wrinkles. We were all out last Saturday night, and the first thing she said when the photos started appearing on facebook was 'Aaaagh!' She thinks she has wrinkles around her eyes, and as she is smiling or laughing in most of the photographs they are more pronounced. This is her opinion - I honestly cannot see any wrinkles, only the creases that EVERYBODY (no matter what age) gets around their eyes when they smile. I've noticed that when she looks in the mirror she is always poking and tugging at the skin around her eyes, as if to smooth her invisible wrinkles. I've tried telling her that I really can't see any, but to no avail. It's not just me, either - she still gets ID'd sometimes, she is young-looking for 28. Alas, she has begun wondering aloud whether botox would be worth it. Thankfully she can't afford it anyway, I find mask-like faces really creepy.

Scarinae

Count Duckula wrote: »

As a question, and please feel free to delete this mods if it's inappropriate, but would moisturising cure oily and greasy skin on a man too? I don't really give a toss in terms of what other people might think of me (I know my girlfriend wouldn't care), but I can have really nasty skin sometimes.

In response to this - definitely. Many men use moisturiser, as I have learned from working in a cosmetics shop, and even facemasks - just not all of them admit it! Just get a light moisturiser, one that is suitable for combination to oily skin, and use it after washing your face. You can get men-specific ones, but honestly that's mostly marketing - any good moisturiser will do. Also, don't use soap on your face unless it is specifically a facial soap, as regular soap will dry out your face and make your skin overcompensate by producing more oil.

Poor Craythur

Dudess wrote: »

Well that's true, but it's more for professions where looks are really important. In everyday life, it's really not noticed. Wrinkles only make a person look very aged when there are lots of them and they're very deep. Early-stage ones aren't noticeable unless pointed out by the person who has them. It's true that people are usually their own worst critics. So just get cracking on the moisturising - and drink lots of water. I started moisturising regularly quite late too - at 26 (when I noticed fine lines on my forehead) and my skin hasn't really changed since then and I'm nearly 33! Now I know some of that is genetic - I do have good skin - but when I don't moisturise, I definitely notice a difference in terms of how the skin feels.

So, it's not too late! Should I use a moisturiser with built-in sunscreen? Anyone got some affordable recommendations?

To be honest, I glad I just enjoyed my early twenties and didn't spend them fretting about wrinkles. That was the time to be carefree!

daenerysstormborn3

Have had a fairly strict skincare regime since I was around 16. I have eczema so my skin needs to be kept moisturised. Does this mean I won't get bad wrinkles?? (Please say yes!) I'm 23 so not too worried about them yet but I'm sure the day will come soon. In the last few months i noticed very slight bags under my eyes (this was while I was doing a 5 hour commute for work so I was absolutely shattered all the time), of course my boyfriend says they're not even there!

WindSock

I've been using moisturiser since my teens, I have oily skin also. Have noticed crows feet since my mid 20's so I guess it makes little difference. I don't mind them though as they are my lulz lines.

Eviledna

Lol @ Mammykins, I say that too, seems like such a unique thing but there seems to be mammykins around the country! Excellent!

I'm 26 too and have noticed the rather permanent creases begin to form. But having said that, look at anyone that has had plastic surgery to remove wrinkles, they don't look like themselves anymore. These creases will become the aspects of your face that make you you at any age, the ones your loved ones and/or children will trace with their fingers.

Don't worry, everyones in the same boat

Poor Craythur

WindSock wrote: »

I've been using moisturiser since my teens, I have oily skin also. Have noticed crows feet since my mid 20's so I guess it makes little difference. I don't mind them though as they are my lulz lines.

Lulz lines! I'm the same about frown lines. I frown a lot and am happy for my face to bear the evidence!

Poor Craythur

Eviledna wrote: »

Lol @ Mammykins, I say that too, seems like such a unique thing but there seems to be mammykins around the country! Excellent!

I'm 26 too and have noticed the rather permanent creases begin to form. But having said that, look at anyone that has had plastic surgery to remove wrinkles, they don't look like themselves anymore. These creases will become the aspects of your face that make you you at any age, the ones your loved ones and/or children will trace with their fingers.

Don't worry, everyones in the same boat

Awwww, that's lovely.

Jenneke87

am 23 and already i'm starting to develop lines from the side of my nose to the corner of my mouth and they will no longer fade. I hate to think that I',going to look like when i'm 30.....does anyone have any idea how to slow this down?:mad:

WindSock

Jenneke87 wrote: »

am 23 and already i'm starting to develop lines from the side of my nose to the corner of my mouth and they will no longer fade. I hate to think that I',going to look like when i'm 30.....does anyone have any idea how to slow this down?:mad:

Smile less. Try not to show any emotion at all. Become like a blank slate, let not the matters and joys of the world enter your mind and rouse a reaction that is projected by your face.

daenerysstormborn3

Jenneke87 wrote: »

am 23 and already i'm starting to develop lines from the side of my nose to the corner of my mouth and they will no longer fade. I hate to think that I',going to look like when i'm 30.....does anyone have any idea how to slow this down?:mad:

Two words, Jennifer Aniston.

She is considered one of the most beautiful women in the world and she has very prominent lines between her nose and the corners of her mouth. This is from smiling Would you rather look miserable and people think you are a miserable sod?!

My boyfriend is always telling me that that's what I can expect to look like when I'm older because I am developing the same lines as you. I look nothing like Jennifer Aniston but in fairness to her she is a great advertisement for lol lines

Panthro

thread of the day, get in there Poor Craythur!:D

Poor Craythur

papagormo wrote: »

thread of the day, get in there Poor Craythur!:D

Sarcasm?

Stheno

Poor Craythur wrote: »

So, it's not too late! Should I use a moisturiser with built-in sunscreen? Anyone got some affordable recommendations?

To be honest, I glad I just enjoyed my early twenties and didn't spend them fretting about wrinkles. That was the time to be carefree!

Go to a good cosmetic counter and have a skin consultation and learn what type of skin you have, then buy products for your skin type and get into a routine. I'm 37, and have been strict about my skincare since I was in my teens due to eczema. I got id'ed when I was 35 twice trying to buy booze, and I smoke like a trooper, but I religiously take care of my skin (to the point of having a new makeup consultation every six months), use an SPF 25 every day and SPF 40 in Summer and for my age, imo I've good skin, yes I've lines, laughter lines, and frown lines, but not so much that they define me at all, most people who meet me tend to age me at about 30 (on the odd occasion I ask )

Panthro

Poor Craythur wrote: »

Sarcasm?

no not at all, had just seen it and decided I should offer my congrats!:)

Poor Craythur

papagormo wrote: »

no not at all, had just seen it and decided I should offer my congrats!:)

OK, thank you. *reluctantly and confusedly accepts undeserved praise*

Count Duckula

Poor Craythur wrote: »

OK, thank you. *reluctantly and confusedly accepts undeserved praise*

Boards.ie has a "thread of the day". You'll find it at the top underneath the "boards.ie" drop-down menu.

And this thread is today's!

CathyMoran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR9LYrCR_4I this video is cute and apt, they are a sign that you are getting older - it is better that than dying young. I have no problems with them - am sure that I may have a few by now but I am heading for 37 shortly. I think that they can look beautiful and distiguished.

Poor Craythur

Count Duckula wrote: »

Boards.ie has a "thread of the day". You'll find it at the top underneath the "boards.ie" drop-down menu.

And this thread is today's!

Heh, oh right!

Eve_Dublin

I have little creases around my eyes too that only appeared in the last few years (I'm 30) and I agree wit Cathy Moran...I think they can look beautiful. I'm trying my best to avoid any negative influence that tells me aging is an ugly thing (although I know it's hard). I'm looking after myself, I eat well, I quit the fags a year ago and I moisturise. I do all I can and anything that's happening to me is through no fault of my own. It's just nature doing it's thing. I've got my health and it would seem ridiculous getting upset over a few creases. My face has taken a different shape the pass few years...I've lost that baby-faced look and I suppose I look more like a woman now and the creases are part of it. I like it. No problem with it at all.

Eve_Dublin

CathyMoran wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR9LYrCR_4I this video is cute and apt, they are a sign that you are getting older - it is better that than dying young. I have no problems with them - am sure that I may have a few by now but I am heading for 37 shortly. I think that they can look beautiful and distiguished.

I thought of this song when I was reading the original post. Love it.

Aishae

ha - i had to laugh - someonecalled em lol lines a few posts back. nice way to name them.
at 26 i have a couple of fine lines near the eyes but not many - they seem to feck off after i moisturise. for a while anyway. ive moisturised since i was a teen - just ponds cream at first and only once a week. but ive upped it to every time i shower and in between if my skin starts to feel too tight and dry. the moisturising is defo important to give you a nicer fresh skin glow.
im not bothered if i get lol lines or eye lol lines cos theyre just a sign of a life well laughed.

Poor Craythur

Does anyone else have those creases when they smile, underneath the bottom eyelids, that kind of curve away and downwards, if that makes any sense?

Eve_Dublin

Poor Craythur wrote: »

Does anyone else have those creases when they smile, underneath the bottom eyelids, that kind of curve away and downwards, if that makes any sense?

Yes.

Azureus

Im nearly 23 and have only lately started noticing thin lines between my nose/mouth and one on my forehead. It totally freaked me out because I had bad acne as a teenager and think i treated my skin much too harshly and now im paying the price.

Bit while I was out last night I noticed my fellas lil sis, whos only 18, had one line on her forehead too! Not so freaked anymore; I think the only reason I noticed hers was because I was so paranoid abut my own! Nobody else sees these things.

That said, can anybody on here reccommend a moisturiser with a good SPF?

Up-n-atom!

This thread is making me feel a lot better about myself (or, at the very least, not alone!) I've started noticing fine lines around my eyes lately - they're lines that I would've had before when I get up in the morning sometimes but they would disappear as they day progressed. They don't disappear now! I've always looked younger than my age and felt smug when other friends were developing lines on their foreheads (I don't have a problem with that as of yet) - I don't feel smug now!

I'm 26 and I do moisturise (but maybe not as much as I should!) but I think I need to invest in a proper eyecream or something for this area before it gets too bad! At the same time I'm a bit sceptical about what it can do - apparently face-creams can claim to be 'anti-ageing' if they contain SPF and little else. I've been told by a doctor that SPFs in most moisturisers aren't really effective and you'd be better off using actual suncreams.

Aishae

on the subject of anti ageing cream - ive always been dubious. what is anti a cream? basically its some variation of moisturiser with a few extras and tend to be more expensive as a result. i dont know if any are actually any good because when the trials are done on the creams who is to say the testers arents just seeing the results of good frequent moisturising? as during those trials youre asked to use them regularly.
as well as that my great granny had skin as soft as a babys bottom - wrinkled as she was in her late 80's - but soft and really clear and basically her wrinkles had a softness to them too. all she had ever used on her face was ponds cold cream.
so i dont know for sure if i'll ever bother with anti ageing creams. or stick with my moisturisers and undereye gel (i use vitamin e gel although i only use it every now n again. i should probably use it more....)

a lot of moisturisers out there seem a bit on the oily or runny side for my skin... ive started using a tiny bit of vaseline/ olive oil (its actually a nappy cream!) when my face feels too dry - as the runny moisturiser really hurts when my face is dry and the vaseline/oilive oil gets moisture back in there

LittleBook

Poor Craythur wrote: »

On the plus side, I don't smoke, don't stay out in strong sunshine for long, have never been into sunbathing and don't wear much make-up.

As regards the sun and eyes, something I swear by is using sunglasses when there's any sunshine, even in Winter ... actually, particularly in Winter when the sun is lower so it's directly in your eyes.

I always have sun glasses in my handbag and use them all the time, especially when driving.

I'm older than most of the people in this thread and personally (along with the other basics of not smoking, lots of rest and water, always removing make-up, etc.) it's worked for me (pics or GTFO? ).

I could be wrong but I get the vibe that because there's not much sun in Ireland, people maybe think it's pretentious to wear sun glasses unless it's a "real" Summer's day?

But squinting is an important factor in eye wrinkles so that wouldn't stop me

tan11ie

Count Duckula wrote: »

As a question, and please feel free to delete this mods if it's inappropriate, but would moisturising cure oily and greasy skin on a man too? I don't really give a toss in terms of what other people might think of me (I know my girlfriend wouldn't care), but I can have really nasty skin sometimes.

You need to use a skin care range specifically for oily skin....it can't be "cured" your skin is your skin lol it just how you look after it that determines the results.

cleanse tone moisturize morning and night! also use a facial scrub twice a week to remove dead skin build up and a face mask once a week (all targeted at your skin type)

you might think this a bit too much for you lol but any of the ladies reading this should try follow it.

tan11ie

Azureus wrote: »

Im nearly 23 and have only lately started noticing thin lines between my nose/mouth and one on my forehead. It totally freaked me out because I had bad acne as a teenager and think i treated my skin much too harshly and now im paying the price.

Bit while I was out last night I noticed my fellas lil sis, whos only 18, had one line on her forehead too! Not so freaked anymore; I think the only reason I noticed hers was because I was so paranoid abut my own! Nobody else sees these things.

That said, can anybody on here reccommend a moisturiser with a good SPF?

I can't recommend a moisturizer as i don't know your skin type but Dr Murad products are fantastic but pricey....you could always mix an SPF with your daily moisturizer for a cheaper option! also always use SPF daily!!! (all seasons) no lower then 25...use a higher factor in summer .

Hope this helps.