Who you thought would be a Superstar

Bubs102

The Miz, you all said I was wrong, I was right, again

the groutch

I think the common denominator with alot of wrestlers mentioned here is HHH, who since marrying into the McMahon family has pretty much been calling the shots

HBK

flahavaj wrote: »

I thought Sean O' Haire was going to be a mega-star when he emarked on his singles career a few years back.

Totally agree with this, those Devils Advocate promos(youtube them) were awesome, they had to potential to build a great charactor there.
Then they lumped him with flippin Roddy Piper in a fued with Rickishi, and well that was that!

But then...'I'm not telling you anything...you don't already know'


Besides that I would say(spelling not withstanding):

Duke the Dumpster Drozy
Bastion Buggar

2nd Row Donkey

How could I forget - GOLDUST!


5-7 years ago i though he would go on to do some main eventing, alas it was not to be.

ayatollah

gimmick wrote: »

Dibiase senior, despite not ever winning the world title, certainly did not under achieve. Headlined Wrestlemania and was the most solid and hated heel of the 1980s. He was a major superstar.


Again, just because he was not a World Champ does not mean he underachieved. If anything, given his technical ability, he over achieved.




And again.

ah yeah i know what you mean but i ws thinking more in the sense of like becoming champion and the like - i always felt that WWF never allowed dibiase snr to show what he could do in the ring that much they always kind of had him running scared from hogan or else down on his knees begging for mercy and the like.

but if you get me i just felt that they all had everything they would've needed to have been solid consistant main eventers with long title reigns if only WWf had've had faith in them.

also i think regal too.

could have been a great heel champ.

oh i agree that hall wasn't like kurt angle ability wise but he was crazy over with the fans and was a lot better than some of the guys who held the strap e.g. Sid

parker kent

Samoa Joe. I wonder if he is still mocking CM Punk for signing with WWE now?

Shane Douglas. OK so I was too young to think he was going to be a superstar in 1995, but the guy had all the talent needed. Shawn Michaels played a major role in holding him back as did the lunancy of the Dean Douglas gimmick. The personal issues etc saw him physically fall apart. With the right booking, The Franchise character could have been a top heel in WCW or WWE.

Brian Pillman. A car crash stopped him making it big time with the WWF. The Loose Cannon gimmick would have been awesome if he could have matched it with his awesome in-ring abilities. He was never the same man after it and then we all know what happened.

Umaga. Sure he had that short run with Cena and the Hair vs Hair match, but I really thought he was going to break through and become a main eventer for a number of years. Again, terrible personal choices, poor booking, bad luck and tragedy intervened.

Muhammed Hassan. Brilliant on the mic, UPN and idiotic booking ruined him.

Then cases could be made for Marty Jannety, Rick Rude (was biggish, but could have been much more given his look and talent)

parker kent

Also, my second favourite wrestler ever, Rob Van Dam should have been a proper superstar in the WWE. He should have been pushed to the moon when he arrived. Some may call him a spot monkey, but he had x-factor, buckets of charisma and was extremely marketable. He could deliver on the mic too as is shown throughout ECW and his One Night Stand promo. Odd to suggest a former WWE champion in this thread, but he was never a true main eventer in the WWE.

You could probably write an entire thesis on guys that HHH held down during that period!

irish_stevo815

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

How could I forget - GOLDUST!


5-7 years ago i though he would go on to do some main eventing, alas it was not to be.

Imagaine the promo/vignette possibilites if Golddust was involved in the main event scene for the WWE/Heavyweight Title. Some freaky but amazing stuff could be pulled out of the bag for it. But I think it would have to be a heel Goldust against the likes of Cena or Mysterio for it to be effective.
Still tho, hopefully he'll be put into the US Title scene when he comes back.

JP Liz V1

Desmond Wolfe in TNA - he should have at least one world title reign by now

thebostoncrab

Muhammed Hassan, Goldust and Val Venis jump straight at me.

Hassan only got dereailed due to bad timing, but it's a huge, huge, huge loss for wrestling that he didn't just wait it out and hung up his boots. His gimmick was brilliant and was one of the most intelligent and thought out heels...possibly ever! Not a day passes were I don't wonder where wrestling would be had the bombings in London not happened and Hassan won the world title from 'Taker.

Goldust seemed like he was going to break through when he first came out (Word play eh? :P) and was really doing some mind ****ing. Some would say that the gimmick would have held him back but he could go in the ring and knew how to play to a crowd perfectly as a face or a heel. Plus if a zombie biker can be world champ...

And Val deserved a shot I think. He had all the right tools and could have in the main event scene. I doubt he would have been a world champion, but he would have been more than able to put on some classics. He could have been the Ted Dibiase of the late 90s early 00s; the great heel that never reached the top but was a serious threat at all times.

parker kent

thebostoncrab wrote: »

And Val deserved a shot I think. He had all the right tools and could have in the main event scene. I doubt he would have been a world champion, but he would have been more than able to put on some classics. He could have been the Ted Dibiase of the late 90s early 00s; the great heel that never reached the top but was a serious threat at all times.

Agree big time. He could go in the ring and was great on the mic, as was shown in his Chief Morley phase. I thought he was going to break through when he had a cracking match with Mankind. Although I think the porn star gimmick held him back, much better if they just had him as a ladies man.

gimmick

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Desmond Wolfe in TNA - he should have at least one world title reign by now

Why? He has been injured for a very long spell, and has only been in the company 18ish months.

I agree he is talented and I do like him, but you can only hotshot so many people. And given the fact that some other, bigger stars came in within the same 6 month period as him, it is not at all surprising.

JP Liz V1

gimmick wrote: »

Why? He has been injured for a very long spell, and has only been in the company 18ish months.

I agree he is talented and I do like him, but you can only hotshot so many people. And given the fact that some other, bigger stars came in within the same 6 month period as him, it is not at all surprising.

How long was Anderson and RVD there before they got a title reign pretty quickly imo. I know Hardy was a returnee but he too got the title early enough. Wolfe had a great debut in TNA and had an excellent feud with Angle but then was put into Flair's stable and nothing, its a shame imo and if the rumours he could be retiring because of medical problems.

Jazzy

how dare anyone ever say anything negative about Mr Perfect! :pac:


sean o haire for me. looked limited in the ring but had the right look and such.

gimmick

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How long was Anderson and RVD there before they got a title reign pretty quickly imo. I know Hardy was a returnee but he too got the title early enough. Wolfe had a great debut in TNA and had an excellent feud with Angle but then was put into Flair's stable and nothing, its a shame imo and if the rumours he could be retiring because of medical problems.

Both were established stars from other companies.

Giving the title to Wolfe would have made little or no sense. To the average fan that would be like giving the WWE title to Husky Harris, ie someone who came from absolutely nowhere. Someone like Wolfe needs to go through the TV title and tag titles before going anywhere near the world title.

Add in that he has an awful record with injuries, and his early push stalled quickly once the fans stopped caring about him.

He had a decent feud to start with with Angle certainly, but one feud does not equal a guy being champion.

JP Liz V1

gimmick wrote: »

Both were established stars from other companies.

Giving the title to Wolfe would have made little or no sense. To the average fan that would be like giving the WWE title to Husky Harris, ie someone who came from absolutely nowhere. Someone like Wolfe needs to go through the TV title and tag titles before going anywhere near the world title.

Add in that he has an awful record with injuries, and his early push stalled quickly once the fans stopped caring about him.

He had a decent feud to start with with Angle certainly, but one feud does not equal a guy being champion.

He didnt need to win the title straight away but at least be in that scene and compete for it after he feud with Angle (Hogan and Flair came onboard) and he was pushed way down the picking order. He could have won the TV/Global or Legends (not sure the name) Title instead of Styles.

gimmick

There is planty time for that. Remeber, AJ having that title was fairly important to the entire companies storyline.

Not to mention, even if he did have even a small title it would not have been for long due to his injuries.

JP Liz V1

gimmick wrote: »

There is planty time for that. Remeber, AJ having that title was fairly important to the entire companies storyline.

Not to mention, even if he did have even a small title it would not have been for long due to his injuries.

I hope he does come back and gets a decent push and even a world title reign but from it seems he could be retiring soon

Bounty Hunter

Hassan and O'Haire were the ones I had in mind when I saw this and they have already been mentioned. I agree with the mention of Goldust & Val though as being underused during a lot of their time, Can still remember when Goldust was a near main eventer putting on good PPV matches against people like Vader. Always think its interesting to note Val is a former CMLL heavyweight champ too

Charisteas

drayme wrote: »

He didnt buried at all he was just removed from TV.

Being removed from TV was the ultimate burial for the Mordecai character, was it not?

Cactus Colm

gimmick wrote: »

Both were established stars from other companies.

Giving the title to Wolfe would have made little or no sense. To the average fan that would be like giving the WWE title to Husky Harris, ie someone who came from absolutely nowhere. Someone like Wolfe needs to go through the TV title and tag titles before going anywhere near the world title.

Add in that he has an awful record with injuries, and his early push stalled quickly once the fans stopped caring about him.

He had a decent feud to start with with Angle certainly, but one feud does not equal a guy being champion.

I disagree ... I think there is plenty of scope to give someone like Wolfe a quick run at / with a world title. His feud with Angle was hot, and he was pretty much immediately established as a top class heel. The man also has a history of being reliable and a hell of a worker.

Fine, the crowd were unfamiliar with him, but what better way to establish a heels main event credentials than by coming in and immediately winning the top title.

This isn't Husky Harris who is pretty much brand new to wrestling, this is a former ROH champion. He has all the skills to make it to the top, the feud with Angle gave him the perfect platform for a run with the title. But instead he was dropped down the card, and lost all momentum. He became Just Another Guy.

Chances are he'll rise back to the top again, but he could have been there a good while ago, and the TNA main event would have been all the better for it.

parker kent

I have to agree with people who think Desmond Wolfe got a raw deal at TNA. Whilst it is too early to say he has been buried, he has certainly suffered from not building on his early momentum in TNA. The Hucksters arrival was pretty much the death knell for his push.

rossie1977

lashley was in line for a megapush but they sacked his gf and he left, if he hadn't took his ball and went home you would probably be looking at the second biggest face in wwe atm with multiple title reigns

lol at the guy mentioning duke drose and bastion booger :eek: they were barely above jobber status from day one

jmolloy

I think Lashley and Umaga have to be considered to have achied superstardom in the WWE. They had the feature match at Wretlemania 23 which had a bigger buy rate than each of the Mania's that have followed. Okay by this logic you could call Donald Trump a superstar but still only 25 other matches can claim to have been the feature match at a Mania

yes well done on spotting the shameless undisputed rip off

Smoshi

Always thought Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas would've done better than they did.

Same with the Bashams. I really like Sean O'Haire shame he never made it.

Brian Kendrick & Paul London could've been special aswell.

Kevin Thorn/Mordecai was just a wasted oppertunity IMO.

geeky

Oldie this: I really thought Nailz was going to sweep all before him when I was a kid and first saw him doing a number on the Big Boss Man. They'd done the instabuild on him so well, having him blow through Virgil, put Slaughter on the shelf, and he'd looked strong on BBM's return after 'injury'. Then he was facing Taker. Of course, other issues derailed that...

Also: Marty.Jannetty

ayatollah

bulldog - loved him thought he had everything except americans couldnt understand his accennt - but felt full sure on more than one occasion that they'd pull the trigger with him but it never materialised - had they had a little more faith in him he could've been a brilliant champ

Hercule

Nathan jones as a monster heel on looks alone - never understood how they didnt make that work.

ended up getting slapped around by jackie chan/jet li/tony jaa instead

gimmick

ayatollah wrote: »

bulldog - loved him thought he had everything except americans couldnt understand his accennt - but felt full sure on more than one occasion that they'd pull the trigger with him but it never materialised - had they had a little more faith in him he could've been a brilliant champ

They tried to pull the trigger with him in around 1998/9. He came back as a heel and absolutely nobody cared. No heat whatsoeevr towards him. That said, had they done so around 1993/4 I am sure it would have been a different story.

jaykhunter

gimmick wrote: »

They tried to pull the trigger with him in around 1998/9. He came back as a heel and absolutely nobody cared. No heat whatsoeevr towards him. That said, had they done so around 1993/4 I am sure it would have been a different story.

He lobbied around the main event on his return in 99; with Triple H and DX. He was really out of his depth in regards to promos, in-ring quality and overall star power. He was horrendous. It wasn't long before he was bundled with the Mean Street Posse instead.

I enjoyed him being mid-card champion though; I imagine that he was just a physical wreck backstage and it showed on-screen and so WWF dropped him. I wish he was about to sort out his back problems and painkiller addiction though

I loved seeing him introduce WWF shows in a snippet in his thick Manc accent.... "Da wurld Wrestlin' Fedaratun -- ownly on Skai Spurts!"