Who you thought would be a Superstar

scon86

Over the last number of years some wrestlers came along that you thought would be future main event players that never reached that leave weather it be from the creative side, failing drug tests or some like Carlito just wanting it handed to them and not giving it there all in the ring, and bad attitudes backstage. Who were these superstars or divas that you thought would make it and didn’t and what in your opinion is the reason they didn’t. For me its Chris Masters although he might still turn into a main event player and I hope he does. Back at the start of 05 when he made his debut with the master lock challenge along with his physic and entrance I would have put my house on him being a future world champion. Then late 05 he starts to get a push into the main event with the triple treat submission match with Kurt Angle and Cena on RAW. He was also in the EC at new years revolution and even had a PPV match with HBK. I think when he fail the drug test for a second that signalled the end of The Master Piece.

D2D

I thought M.V.P was gonna be huge but he never got any-sort of push to take him out of mid-level card.

Machismo Fan

I always thought Chris Harris had huge breakout babyface potential but we all know where that went.

irish_stevo815

Christian & Shelton Benjamin I thought were dead certs for major success. Specially Shelton, he had so much talent and pulled off some awesome moves. After that first Money in the Bank match, I was certain he would be WWE Champion by the time the next Wrestlemaina came around

pbffan

The Masterpiece, a particular favourite on here :pac:

I thought Bobby Lashley was going to be huge. Drew McIntyre looked like he was going to be pushed to the moon too at one stage, although there's still time for him yet

CMpunked

K Kwik/R Truth.
As K Kwik i feckin loved him. Then he came back (i know he was in tna. Meh) as r truth, and i couldnt believe it was the same guy.

irish_stevo815

Actually I gotta say Jack Swagger as well. I know he won the Heavyweight title, but look what has happened since!! He was gearing up to be the new Kurt angle and had so much potential, speech impediment and all

irish_stevo815

CMpunked wrote: »

K Kwik/R Truth.
As K Kwik i feckin loved him. Then he came back (i know he was in tna. Meh) as r truth, and i couldnt believe it was the same guy.

"...........Road Dogg and K-Kwik Gettin' Rowdy......"

Mr.Nice Guy

In 2005 I thought Christian was set for stardom and couldn't imagine WWE could screw that up. I also thought Shelton Benjamin had the natural ability to make it big.

Kenny Dykstra is another guy I was sure was going to go on and become a talent for the future but it wasn't to be. I even remember Bret singling him out as a guy that impressed him.

irish_stevo815 wrote:

Actually I gotta say Jack Swagger as well. I know he won the Heavyweight title, but look what has happened since!! He was gearing up to be the new Kurt angle and had so much potential, speech impediment and all

I think Swagger will become a star. I feel he just got the title way too soon. I'd be very surprised if he's not a main eventer in 18 months.

flahavaj

I thought Sean O' Haire was going to be a mega-star when he emarked on his singles career a few years back.

irish_stevo815

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I think Swagger will become a star. I feel he just got the title way too soon. I'd be very surprised if he's not a main eventer in 18 months.

Hmmmmm, Jack Swagger vs. Sheamus for the World Heavyweight Championship at Wrestlemania 29???

Lets start the Facebook campaign now...........

wiger toods

Hav'nt watched the wrestling in a few years but when scott hall and kevin nash came back in 03/4 in the guise of the nWo, i would have thought one of them at least would have played a bigger part in future wwe storylines instead of the usual fade out! wonder where they are now?

drayme

Rebecca Knox by Diva standards at least. She had charisma (FELLA), the look and Regal, Malenko & Finlay would probably lover her mat skills.

flahavaj wrote: »

I thought Sean O' Haire was going to be a mega-star when he emarked on his singles career a few years back.

Too bad he was a sub-par wrestler and couldnt cut a promo in front of a live crowd. :pac:

irish_stevo815

wiger toods wrote: »

Hav'nt watched the wrestling in a few years but when scott hall and kevin nash came back in 03/4 in the guise of the nWo, i would have thought one of them at least would have played a bigger part in future wwe storylines instead of the usual fade out! wonder where they are now?

Didnt Nash win the World Heavyweight title and have a long feud with HHH??

krudler

wiger toods wrote: »

Hav'nt watched the wrestling in a few years but when scott hall and kevin nash came back in 03/4 in the guise of the nWo, i would have thought one of them at least would have played a bigger part in future wwe storylines instead of the usual fade out! wonder where they are now?

Nash was in the Royal Rumble a few weeks back, Hall.... pick a bar, any bar :pac:

wiger toods

seriously? fcuk. well i did say i hadnt watched it in a while, 4/5 years now id say! im some gob****e! :mad:

jaykhunter

I thought Test would be a world champion; although not great verbal skills; they were ok, plus he was really tall and jacked. And Shane McMahon loved him. He kept getting a push but then it was stalled whenever it was time to pull the trigger. Rumour was Shane was gonna bring in Test as WCW Champion....

I thought Elijah Burke would be a big deal in WWE. He had really decent promo skills/aura and lead the New Breed. But that wasn't to be. At least he's doing better in TNA (well, not the current fued but in general lol)

I loved Jeff Jarrett when he came back to the WWF, 1st as the nWa Champion with Jim Cornette (the back and forth with Owen Hart was great -- a feud that never materialised) and also his "Don't Piss Me Off" wifebeater gimmick was awesome. Whenever he P'ed off Austin, that was it for his WWF career. At least he was able to get the world title in WCW and start up TNA. If only he "got" pro-wrestling :p

When I saw Kennedy initially on SmackDown I thought he'd be a World Champion. Then came a poor stint on RAW, and again on SmackDown, and multiple unfortunately-timed events (misdiagnosed injury, Pharmacy scandal etc)....Orton got him sh!t-canned and that was it.

MVP I wasn't fully behind but everyone thought he'd be a big star a few years ago. Then he made a crack at a wellness policy doctor and WWE used it as an excuse to bury the aging wrestler....then he left WWE.

starviewadams

Lashley,I pretty much thought he was going to be the next incarnation of John Cena (ie:irritating white meat,mega pushed babyface)

Test-He had all the tools needed,tragic how life turned out for him in the end.

I always thought that Nathan Jones could have gone on to become a decent upper card heel too.

Podge2k7

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

I thought M.V.P was gonna be huge but he never got any-sort of push to take him out of mid-level card.

This. I always thought MVP was a dead cert to be World Champ.

mayordenis

I'll never really understand what happened to Braden Walker.

GTR63

I know he's in TNA but Samoa Joe,jesus what happened to him yeah he's gotten derailed but he's let himself go & is just happy to sign on with Tna such a shame.

Charisteas

Mordecai - Supposed to be the 'new' Undertaker wasn't he?!

Well he did get buried..........

drayme

Charisteas wrote: »

Mordecai - Supposed to be the 'new' Undertaker wasn't he?!

Well he did get buried..........

He didnt buried at all he was just removed from TV.

grames_bond

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

"...........D-O-DOUBLE-G and K-Kwik Gettin' Rowdy......"

fyp [/pedant]


I still think kennedy could come back to WWE and be a star, i've always been a huge fan of his!

I'll +1 to chris masters, he was booked as a monster at the start of his career, then one f*ck up or another and he is resigned to superstars every week!

jmolloy

Shelton around the time of his HHH feud I thought would go on be huge but his lack of skill on the mic dragged him down. Have to say Swagger as well don't see him going anytime soon as he is a former world champ now but don't know if he'll ever reach those heights again

2nd Row Donkey

flahavaj wrote: »

I thought Sean O' Haire was going to be a mega-star when he emarked on his singles career a few years back.

Oh Yeah, that guy was awesome. I thought he was a shoe in for sure.

gimmick

flahavaj wrote: »

I thought Sean O' Haire was going to be a mega-star when he emarked on his singles career a few years back.

His devils advocate promos were excellent. Shame it never transfered to the live show

jaykhunter wrote: »

I thought Test would be a world champion; although not great verbal skills; they were ok, plus he was really tall and jacked.

I was convinced Test was gonna be huge around 1998/9. He was insanely over, was involved in a huge feud with HHH and Steph and had the look and the big man move set.

That said, when he returned he was a dried up old shíte.

I thought Elijah Burke would be a big deal in WWE. He had really decent promo skills/aura and lead the New Breed. But that wasn't to be. At least he's doing better in TNA (well, not the current fued but in general lol)

Will still be huge. He has everything needed.

I thought Colt Canana would make a decent midcard splash as well. Brilliant on the mic and a bloody good wrestler. Bizarre that he never did anything of note.

ayatollah

Ted Dibiase - eh both of them.

Scott Hall has to be there too - i mean back when he had his hit together and was in shape not later like.

would've said crush when he made his heel comeback the first one not the 2nd nation one - the crowd really hated him and were massively behind savage in that fued - should have went over there and gone on to win a title and then defend it against savage down the line but sure how and ever.

oh and obviously mr. perfect and mr texas tornado kerry von erich

2nd Row Donkey

Charisteas wrote: »

Mordecai - Supposed to be the 'new' Undertaker wasn't he?!

Well he did get buried..........[/QUOTE]

Ba-dum-tish!

2nd Row Donkey

Chuck Palumbo.

The Billy & Chunk gimmick was fun but I thought he would have went on to do more afterwards. in and out of the ring he was as good as some of those who have held titles over the last 7 years

gimmick

ayatollah wrote: »

Ted Dibiase - eh both of them.

Dibiase senior, despite not ever winning the world title, certainly did not under achieve. Headlined Wrestlemania and was the most solid and hated heel of the 1980s. He was a major superstar.

Scott Hall has to be there too - i mean back when he had his hit together and was in shape not later like.

Again, just because he was not a World Champ does not mean he underachieved. If anything, given his technical ability, he over achieved.

oh and obviously mr. perfect and mr texas tornado kerry von erich

And again.

Bubs102

The Miz, you all said I was wrong, I was right, again

the groutch

I think the common denominator with alot of wrestlers mentioned here is HHH, who since marrying into the McMahon family has pretty much been calling the shots

HBK

flahavaj wrote: »

I thought Sean O' Haire was going to be a mega-star when he emarked on his singles career a few years back.

Totally agree with this, those Devils Advocate promos(youtube them) were awesome, they had to potential to build a great charactor there.
Then they lumped him with flippin Roddy Piper in a fued with Rickishi, and well that was that!

But then...'I'm not telling you anything...you don't already know'


Besides that I would say(spelling not withstanding):

Duke the Dumpster Drozy
Bastion Buggar

2nd Row Donkey

How could I forget - GOLDUST!


5-7 years ago i though he would go on to do some main eventing, alas it was not to be.

ayatollah

gimmick wrote: »

Dibiase senior, despite not ever winning the world title, certainly did not under achieve. Headlined Wrestlemania and was the most solid and hated heel of the 1980s. He was a major superstar.


Again, just because he was not a World Champ does not mean he underachieved. If anything, given his technical ability, he over achieved.




And again.

ah yeah i know what you mean but i ws thinking more in the sense of like becoming champion and the like - i always felt that WWF never allowed dibiase snr to show what he could do in the ring that much they always kind of had him running scared from hogan or else down on his knees begging for mercy and the like.

but if you get me i just felt that they all had everything they would've needed to have been solid consistant main eventers with long title reigns if only WWf had've had faith in them.

also i think regal too.

could have been a great heel champ.

oh i agree that hall wasn't like kurt angle ability wise but he was crazy over with the fans and was a lot better than some of the guys who held the strap e.g. Sid

parker kent

Samoa Joe. I wonder if he is still mocking CM Punk for signing with WWE now?

Shane Douglas. OK so I was too young to think he was going to be a superstar in 1995, but the guy had all the talent needed. Shawn Michaels played a major role in holding him back as did the lunancy of the Dean Douglas gimmick. The personal issues etc saw him physically fall apart. With the right booking, The Franchise character could have been a top heel in WCW or WWE.

Brian Pillman. A car crash stopped him making it big time with the WWF. The Loose Cannon gimmick would have been awesome if he could have matched it with his awesome in-ring abilities. He was never the same man after it and then we all know what happened.

Umaga. Sure he had that short run with Cena and the Hair vs Hair match, but I really thought he was going to break through and become a main eventer for a number of years. Again, terrible personal choices, poor booking, bad luck and tragedy intervened.

Muhammed Hassan. Brilliant on the mic, UPN and idiotic booking ruined him.

Then cases could be made for Marty Jannety, Rick Rude (was biggish, but could have been much more given his look and talent)

parker kent

Also, my second favourite wrestler ever, Rob Van Dam should have been a proper superstar in the WWE. He should have been pushed to the moon when he arrived. Some may call him a spot monkey, but he had x-factor, buckets of charisma and was extremely marketable. He could deliver on the mic too as is shown throughout ECW and his One Night Stand promo. Odd to suggest a former WWE champion in this thread, but he was never a true main eventer in the WWE.

You could probably write an entire thesis on guys that HHH held down during that period!

irish_stevo815

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

How could I forget - GOLDUST!


5-7 years ago i though he would go on to do some main eventing, alas it was not to be.

Imagaine the promo/vignette possibilites if Golddust was involved in the main event scene for the WWE/Heavyweight Title. Some freaky but amazing stuff could be pulled out of the bag for it. But I think it would have to be a heel Goldust against the likes of Cena or Mysterio for it to be effective.
Still tho, hopefully he'll be put into the US Title scene when he comes back.

JP Liz V1

Desmond Wolfe in TNA - he should have at least one world title reign by now

thebostoncrab

Muhammed Hassan, Goldust and Val Venis jump straight at me.

Hassan only got dereailed due to bad timing, but it's a huge, huge, huge loss for wrestling that he didn't just wait it out and hung up his boots. His gimmick was brilliant and was one of the most intelligent and thought out heels...possibly ever! Not a day passes were I don't wonder where wrestling would be had the bombings in London not happened and Hassan won the world title from 'Taker.

Goldust seemed like he was going to break through when he first came out (Word play eh? :P) and was really doing some mind ****ing. Some would say that the gimmick would have held him back but he could go in the ring and knew how to play to a crowd perfectly as a face or a heel. Plus if a zombie biker can be world champ...

And Val deserved a shot I think. He had all the right tools and could have in the main event scene. I doubt he would have been a world champion, but he would have been more than able to put on some classics. He could have been the Ted Dibiase of the late 90s early 00s; the great heel that never reached the top but was a serious threat at all times.

parker kent

thebostoncrab wrote: »

And Val deserved a shot I think. He had all the right tools and could have in the main event scene. I doubt he would have been a world champion, but he would have been more than able to put on some classics. He could have been the Ted Dibiase of the late 90s early 00s; the great heel that never reached the top but was a serious threat at all times.

Agree big time. He could go in the ring and was great on the mic, as was shown in his Chief Morley phase. I thought he was going to break through when he had a cracking match with Mankind. Although I think the porn star gimmick held him back, much better if they just had him as a ladies man.

gimmick

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Desmond Wolfe in TNA - he should have at least one world title reign by now

Why? He has been injured for a very long spell, and has only been in the company 18ish months.

I agree he is talented and I do like him, but you can only hotshot so many people. And given the fact that some other, bigger stars came in within the same 6 month period as him, it is not at all surprising.

JP Liz V1

gimmick wrote: »

Why? He has been injured for a very long spell, and has only been in the company 18ish months.

I agree he is talented and I do like him, but you can only hotshot so many people. And given the fact that some other, bigger stars came in within the same 6 month period as him, it is not at all surprising.

How long was Anderson and RVD there before they got a title reign pretty quickly imo. I know Hardy was a returnee but he too got the title early enough. Wolfe had a great debut in TNA and had an excellent feud with Angle but then was put into Flair's stable and nothing, its a shame imo and if the rumours he could be retiring because of medical problems.

Jazzy

how dare anyone ever say anything negative about Mr Perfect! :pac:


sean o haire for me. looked limited in the ring but had the right look and such.

gimmick

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How long was Anderson and RVD there before they got a title reign pretty quickly imo. I know Hardy was a returnee but he too got the title early enough. Wolfe had a great debut in TNA and had an excellent feud with Angle but then was put into Flair's stable and nothing, its a shame imo and if the rumours he could be retiring because of medical problems.

Both were established stars from other companies.

Giving the title to Wolfe would have made little or no sense. To the average fan that would be like giving the WWE title to Husky Harris, ie someone who came from absolutely nowhere. Someone like Wolfe needs to go through the TV title and tag titles before going anywhere near the world title.

Add in that he has an awful record with injuries, and his early push stalled quickly once the fans stopped caring about him.

He had a decent feud to start with with Angle certainly, but one feud does not equal a guy being champion.

JP Liz V1

gimmick wrote: »

Both were established stars from other companies.

Giving the title to Wolfe would have made little or no sense. To the average fan that would be like giving the WWE title to Husky Harris, ie someone who came from absolutely nowhere. Someone like Wolfe needs to go through the TV title and tag titles before going anywhere near the world title.

Add in that he has an awful record with injuries, and his early push stalled quickly once the fans stopped caring about him.

He had a decent feud to start with with Angle certainly, but one feud does not equal a guy being champion.

He didnt need to win the title straight away but at least be in that scene and compete for it after he feud with Angle (Hogan and Flair came onboard) and he was pushed way down the picking order. He could have won the TV/Global or Legends (not sure the name) Title instead of Styles.

gimmick

There is planty time for that. Remeber, AJ having that title was fairly important to the entire companies storyline.

Not to mention, even if he did have even a small title it would not have been for long due to his injuries.

JP Liz V1

gimmick wrote: »

There is planty time for that. Remeber, AJ having that title was fairly important to the entire companies storyline.

Not to mention, even if he did have even a small title it would not have been for long due to his injuries.

I hope he does come back and gets a decent push and even a world title reign but from it seems he could be retiring soon

Bounty Hunter

Hassan and O'Haire were the ones I had in mind when I saw this and they have already been mentioned. I agree with the mention of Goldust & Val though as being underused during a lot of their time, Can still remember when Goldust was a near main eventer putting on good PPV matches against people like Vader. Always think its interesting to note Val is a former CMLL heavyweight champ too

Charisteas

drayme wrote: »

He didnt buried at all he was just removed from TV.

Being removed from TV was the ultimate burial for the Mordecai character, was it not?