Galway GAA discussion thread

Diabhal Beag

Curly head wrote: »

Is Michael Meehan coming back?

http://www.hoganstand.com/Galway/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131

That certainly seems like it. He was absolute class last time considering his ankle was in bits but I heard it had only gotten worse. I hope he isn't taking a big risk here.

Hulk Hands

It'll likely come to nothing and he probably can't meet the demands...but fcuk me if im not excited by that news!

aidan24326

Even if only as an impact sub it would be great to have him.

Diabhal Beag

Navan once again sees a Galway beating. Don't think we have 3 more wins in us tbh. Losing that two point lead so late is typical. Could cost us.

Was at the hurling. Shocking turnout. Laois were up to nothing and still managed to pressure our fullbacks in the second half. Hard to make much out of it but Padraig Mannion and Sean Loftus were super. Hanbury might be out for a while too as he looked in real trouble coming off injured. Tommy Monaghan and Flaherty from Abbey were pretty impressive and Cathal Mannion had a very good second half.

Hulk Hands

Depressing shiite. Had the game won and threw it away. Full back line was a disaster and the lack of a kick out strategy is unbelievable at this stage (mostly the backs fault)

Was travelling so had to use Tunein.

Typically enough... again... with a big game on and closely fought, they leave it for the Camogie... sorry but nobody tuning in bar friends and family gave a fiddlers about that match.

We need to get a coach into that set up.
We don't need someone to pick a team.

I wouldn't have given Walsh a third year tbh... embarrassed in Croker to Tipperary, should have been enough to end it.

We're going nowhere under him, he doesn't get the modern game in terms of the changes in coaching of transition and restarts.

Never wanted the year to end so early before... as I just feel it's just wasted time with this management team.
There's a good base of players there, we need to utilise that talent ASAP and not be wasting years with headless coaching.

Robson99

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Was travelling so had to use Tunein.

Typically enough... again... with a big game on and closely fought, they leave it for the Camogie... sorry but nobody tuning in bar friends and family gave a fiddlers about that match.

One was an all Ireland final the other only a league game.

jam83

Robson99 wrote: »

One was an all Ireland final the other only a league game.

There were 4 mins left in the Meath match and it was a must win game. Game was in the melting pot and yet Galway bay cut to pearse stadium for an update, and that game completely sewn up, and then immediatey went to croke park where there was a score but the game was only minutes old.
There was to be full commentary on the camogie once the meath match was over so they should have left the football commentary on while it was so tight and only a few minutes left.
Whoever is producer on that Sunday sports show would want to have some cop on.

Robson99

jam83 wrote: »

There were 4 mins left in the Meath match and it was a must win game. Game was in the melting pot and yet Galway bay cut to pearse stadium for an update, and that game completely sewn up, and then immediatey went to croke park where there was a score but the game was only minutes old.
There was to be full commentary on the camogie once the meath match was over so they should have left the football commentary on while it was so tight and only a few minutes left.
Whoever is producer on that Sunday sports show would want to have some cop on.

Fair enough. That was a bit silly in fairness

TCDStudent1

some very curious decisions on the Galway line today. Daly who had scored 0-2 taken off for Heaney. And when we were a point down with a few minutes left, McHugh taken off - what would happen if Galway won a free to equalise and McHugh sitting on the bench?!

Bad defeat. A win there to my mind would have put us odds on to be promoted. This division is so topsy turvy though the defeat is a setback but isn't fatal but we have left ourselves with no room for error again. Derry at home next up is must win.

Hurling was a bit of a joke. Seeing that game today shows again the damage the Wexford defeat has caused. Another year of playing Offaly, Kerry, Laois/Carlow/Antrim is no preparation for taking on the top teams. 3-4 years ago Laois looked on the up but they look to have reverted back to where they started again. 9 points to no score about 6 or 7 minutes was effectively game over at that stage. Patchy performance but still won very comfortably and should have won by more. They still caused problems for us defensively at times though which is worrying. We really need to get through to the semi-final or final of the league to give us some proper games ahead of the championship.

threeball

Bit of a disastrous result for the footballers. Instead of being odds on to be promoted with a win today they now have to absolutely win their games against Derry and Kildare. Neither of which would you bet the house on them doing.

They really need to get a handle on this inconsistency. It cost us a semi final place against Mayo last year as well as league promotion and could well do the latter again. It has to be a mental thing. They either play in fits and starts or not at all

TCDStudent1

threeball wrote: »

Bit of a disastrous result for the footballers. Instead of being odds on to be promoted with a win today they now have to absolutely win their games against Derry and Kildare. Neither of which would you bet the house on them doing.

They really need to get a handle on this inconsistency. It cost us a semi final place against Mayo last year as well as league promotion and could well do the latter again. It has to be a mental thing. They either play in fits and starts or not at all

We are still in a good position. A win v Derry is crucial now though. I don't think we were ever going to go through the league unbeaten. We have 3 very winnable games left. There are positives from today: we were down by 4 at half time and managed to come back and lead by 3 at one point. Michael Daly continued impressive form and scored 2 excellent points, McHugh looked much more comfortable in general play today so there's signs of progress with, Cathal Sweeney is back starting, Plenty of positives. Lundy had a disaster today, I doubt he will be as bad again.

Hulk Hands

Win 2 and we'll get up. Derry at home should be winnable still in an ok position. Didnt think it was Daly's day, kicked one lovely score off the left but the wet day didnt look like it suited him in the first half. In fairness though he always shows for ball which is more than some. Didnt suit Walsh either bar one outrageous score out on the wing. Flynn was probably our best player. The game is on the backs however. Atrocious carrying the ball out of defence and very poor in the second half. Not sure the new full back is up to it and Kyne was loose, Sweeney headless at times. They would all want to cop themselves on with regards to kickout also, all absent-mindedly ambling out to the 40 whenever the ball goes dead when they should be showing. Bradshaws the worst culprit, although today Kyne couldve guaranteed us about 10 straight possessions simply by looking a bit livelier. So frustrating

leestone

At the Hurling today, Paul Flaherty was very good and will be push the other forwards for place hopefully, Loftus could be in the mix today played well,

aidan24326

jam83 wrote: »

There were 4 mins left in the Meath match and it was a must win game. Game was in the melting pot and yet Galway bay cut to pearse stadium for an update, and that game completely sewn up, and then immediatey went to croke park where there was a score but the game was only minutes old.
There was to be full commentary on the camogie once the meath match was over so they should have left the football commentary on while it was so tight and only a few minutes left.
Whoever is producer on that Sunday sports show would want to have some cop on.

Totally agree. There was loads of time to broadcast commentary of the camogie final after the football was over, and the hurling was merely a turkey shoot and effectively game over after 15 minutes. I don't understand why they do that.

It's great that they support the clubs/camogie/ladies football etc but jesus a bit of common sense is needed here. Stay with the game in Navan and when it's over there's still a long way to go in the camogie, give that priority then.

Utopia Parkway

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Win 2 and we'll get up.

Yeah I think 9 points may well get you promoted this year. Derry and Kildare at home. Down away. Win 2 of those 3 and I think it could well be enough. The loss of Comer is huge though as he's the one forward we have with real physical power and presence. We look a bit lightweight up front without him.

We should have enough to beat Derry in Tuam minus the Slaughtneil contingent. Hopefully anyway. Down looked to have picked up form though. A few weeks back the trip to Down looked a formality as they were a shambles early on. Looks a lot trickier now.

casscass4444

jam83 wrote: »

There were 4 mins left in the Meath match and it was a must win game. Game was in the melting pot and yet Galway bay cut to pearse stadium for an update, and that game completely sewn up, and then immediatey went to croke park where there was a score but the game was only minutes old.
There was to be full commentary on the camogie once the meath match was over so they should have left the football commentary on while it was so tight and only a few minutes left.
Whoever is producer on that Sunday sports show would want to have some cop on.

Galway bay is a joke full stop.valerie hughes has a prime lunch time slot with her put a bullet in my head radio show."we just got a text in.hey val love the show,can you play kill me now by Johnny go backwards for the one person out there that's actually listening to this show.sorry I played that last week and don't have the cd with me".ffs.
If Walsh goes who would ye like to see over the football?when you see the team Galway had in 98 we have a long road to travel back

gammygils

jam83 wrote: »

There were 4 mins left in the Meath match and it was a must win game. Game was in the melting pot and yet Galway bay cut to pearse stadium for an update, and that game completely sewn up, and then immediatey went to croke park where there was a score but the game was only minutes old.
There was to be full commentary on the camogie once the meath match was over so they should have left the football commentary on while it was so tight and only a few minutes left.
Whoever is producer on that Sunday sports show would want to have some cop on.

Thought that was a disgrace. Totally plssed me off! Left us listening to The National Anthem (All of it!) from Croke Park. WTF? Was following it on Facebook and Twitter on @TribesmenGAA and they were prioritising Hurling updates. Didn't know what was going on in Navan and it so tight!

MfMan

leestone wrote: »

At the Hurling today, Paul Flaherty was very good and will be push the other forwards for place hopefully, Loftus could be in the mix today played well,

Had a good outing alright, but may tend to be a bit one-sided which could mitigate against him. Thought the 2 Mannions looked really sharp all through as did Daithi at no. 6; if it comes down to it I'd nearly prefer to see him there than at FB. Hanbury (hope his injury isn't too serious) might do at no. 3 if he could have 2 sticky corner backs beside him. The young lads Loftus and Monaghan also distinguished themselves though are probably a bit light yet for this year, the former in particular looks to use the ball cleverly when in possession. Little bit disappointed with Conor Cooney and Flynn; former takes his scores very well but he has no burst of pace to take him away from defenders while the latter is a bit awkward in touch, sometimes takes him a few gos to control the ball.

Anyway, so poor were the opposition that you couldn't write anyone in or out on the basis of yesterday's game.

leestone

MfMan wrote: »

Had a good outing alright, but may tend to be a bit one-sided which could mitigate against him. Thought the 2 Mannions looked really sharp all through as did Daithi at no. 6; if it comes down to it I'd nearly prefer to see him there than at FB. Hanbury (hope his injury isn't too serious) might do at no. 3 if he could have 2 sticky corner backs beside him. The young lads Loftus and Monaghan also distinguished themselves though are probably a bit light yet for this year, the former in particular
looks to use the ball cleverly when in possession. Little bit disappointed with Conor Cooney and Flynn; former takes his scores very well but he has no burst of pace to take him away from defenders while the latter is a bit awkward in touch, sometimes takes him a few gos to control the ball.

Anyway, so poor were the opposition that you couldn't write anyone in or out on the basis of yesterday's game.

Cathal Mannion was twice caught for over carrying both in situations where he could have easily scored this something he does frequently

CloughCasey1

casscass4444 wrote: »

Galway bay is a joke full stop.valerie hughes has a prime lunch time slot with her put a bullet in my head radio show."we just got a text in.hey val love the show,can you play kill me now by Johnny go backwards for the one person out there that's actually listening to this show.sorry I played that last week and don't have the cd with me".ffs.
If Walsh goes who would ye like to see over the football?when you see the team Galway had in 98 we have a long road to travel back

To compare teams there is a fair gap.
1 Mac v Lavelle. No contest. Mac hands down.
2 T Meehan V D Kyne. Meehan was a solid player and even though Declan has been one of Galways better performers since his intro the Caltra man wins for me
3 Fahy V Walsh. Fahy all day
4 Mannion V Sweeney. Mannion. One.of the finest players we have ever had
5 Silke V Silke. The younger version hands down.
6 Divilly V Bradshaw. Divilly was way more of a presence and more of a natural centre back. Bradshaw more of a wing back converted to fill a position that we dont have a player for.
7 Sean Og V O'Donnell. Gary has matured well into the team and is showing good leadership as captain but he is no De Paor!
8 Kev V Fiontan. Easy decision.
9 O'Domhaill V Conroy. Conroy is a top footballer and wins this one.
10 Flynn V Mike D. Easy Decision
11 Daly V Ja. Maybe in a few years he may get close but Ja was a legend.
12 Shay Walsh V Brannigan draw
13 Savage V Shane Walsh. Shane is possibly a more talanted footballer but can spend long spells out of a game. Derek Savage was one of those players who you couldnt take your eye off for 2 seconds. Savage for now but time could prove me wrong.
14 PJ V McHugh. PJ
15 Niall F V Lundy. Lundy has done feck all for county team.

Now the bulk of that team were playing Div3 football in 1997 and the same thing was said about them as about todays team. There is a lot of talk about getting rid of Walsh. Cant see how that can be justified as no manager in county fit to replace him and feck all good managers in the country to be honest. Rome wasnt built in a day!

Mr Velo

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

casscass4444 wrote: »

Galway bay is a joke full stop.valerie hughes has a prime lunch time slot with her put a bullet in my head radio show."we just got a text in.hey val love the show,can you play kill me now by Johnny go backwards for the one person out there that's actually listening to this show.sorry I played that last week and don't have the cd with me".ffs.
If Walsh goes who would ye like to see over the football?when you see the team Galway had in 98 we have a long road to travel back

To compare teams there is a fair gap.
1 Mac v Lavelle. No contest. Mac hands down.
2 T Meehan V D Kyne. Meehan was a solid player and even though Declan has been one of Galways better performers since his intro the Caltra man wins for me
3 Fahy V Walsh. Fahy all day
4 Mannion V Sweeney. Mannion. One.of the finest players we have ever had
5 Silke V Silke. The younger version hands down.
6 Divilly V Bradshaw. Divilly was way more of a presence and more of a natural full back. Bradshaw more of a wing back converted to fill a position that we dont have a player for.
7 Sean Og V O'Donnell. Gary has matured well into the team and is showing good leadership as captain but he is no De Paor!
8 Kev V Fiontan. Easy decision.
9 O'Domhaill V Conroy. Conroy is a top footballer and wins this one.
10 Flynn V Mike D. Easy Decision
11 Daly V Ja. Maybe in a few years he may get close but Ja was a legend.
12 Shay Walsh V Brannigan draw
13 Savage V Shane Walsh. Shane is possibly a more talanted footballer but can spend long spells out of a game. Derek Savage was one of those players who you couldnt take your eye off for 2 seconds. Savage for now but time could prove me wrong.
14 PJ V McHugh. PJ
15 Niall F V Lundy. Lundy has done feck all for county team.

Now the bulk of that team were playing Div3 football in 1997 and the same thing was said about them as about todays team. There is a lot of talk about getting rid of Walsh. Cant see how that can be justified as no manager in county fit to replace him and feck all good managers in the country to be honest. Rome wasnt built in a day!

"Ja's the man"

Robson99

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

To compare teams there is a fair gap.
1 Mac v Lavelle. No contest. Mac hands down.
2 T Meehan V D Kyne. Meehan was a solid player and even though Declan has been one of Galways better performers since his intro the Caltra man wins for me
3 Fahy V Walsh. Fahy all day
4 Mannion V Sweeney. Mannion. One.of the finest players we have ever had
5 Silke V Silke. The younger version hands down.
6 Divilly V Bradshaw. Divilly was way more of a presence and more of a natural full back. Bradshaw more of a wing back converted to fill a position that we dont have a player for.
7 Sean Og V O'Donnell. Gary has matured well into the team and is showing good leadership as captain but he is no De Paor!
8 Kev V Fiontan. Easy decision.
9 O'Domhaill V Conroy. Conroy is a top footballer and wins this one.
10 Flynn V Mike D. Easy Decision
11 Daly V Ja. Maybe in a few years he may get close but Ja was a legend.
12 Shay Walsh V Brannigan draw
13 Savage V Shane Walsh. Shane is possibly a more talanted footballer but can spend long spells out of a game. Derek Savage was one of those players who you couldnt take your eye off for 2 seconds. Savage for now but time could prove me wrong.
14 PJ V McHugh. PJ
15 Niall F V Lundy. Lundy has done feck all for county team.

Now the bulk of that team were playing Div3 football in 1997 and the same thing was said about them as about todays team. There is a lot of talk about getting rid of Walsh. Cant see how that can be justified as no manager in county fit to replace him and feck all good managers in the country to be honest. Rome wasnt built in a day!

In fairness there was a lot of average footballers in that 98 team.

CloughCasey1

Robson99 wrote: »

In fairness there was a lot of average footballers in that 98 team.

There was indeed. The softest AI ever according to our nearest neighbours. But the bulk of that team won one in 01 and should have won in 00.

Robson99

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

There was indeed. The softest AI ever according to our nearest neighbours. But the bulk of that team won one in 01 and should have won in 00.

True... but a lot of average teams around as well at that time .
Inability to beat Kerry the biggest disappointment with that team

casscass4444

Would Sean og de paor be anyway interested in a role in management I wonder.hes with tg4 a lot on commentary.
Or John or Michael Donnellan.
Surely there are some ex players there who could be brought in for guidance/management even in a back seat role.one thing noticeable lately is that in key moments Galway seem to lack the killer instinct to kick on and finish the job.great posts above but in relation to the Rome not being built in a day I'd say a lot of it would be built in 15 years?? Have they not had ample time to plough on at this stage or are bigger changes needed

CloughCasey1

casscass4444 wrote: »

Would Sean og de paor be anyway interested in a role in management I wonder.hes with tg4 a lot on commentary.
Or John or Michael Donnellan.
Surely there are some ex players there who could be brought in for guidance/management even in a back seat role.one thing noticeable lately is that in key moments Galway seem to lack the killer instinct to kick on and finish the job.great posts above but in relation to the Rome not being built in a day I'd say a lot of it would be built in 15 years?? Have they not had ample time to plough on at this stage or are bigger changes needed

Sean Og was selector a number of yrs ago. Both Donnellans were with underage setups. Just because they were great players doesnt mean they will become good managers. It is the first time in a number of years that there seems to be a nice panel coming together. The Meath game was Galways first loss in 2017. I think only the Dubs can better that!! we need to see what the rest od this league and championship brings. Management cannot always be to blame. Every time a new management team is brought in it usually takes two yrs to bed their style into the team and weed out the players they dont want and look for their type of player.

aidan24326

Robson99 wrote: »

In fairness there was a lot of average footballers in that 98 team.

How about we acknowledge that there was a lot of very good footballers on that 98 team? And 2001 aswell? Why be so negative?

That team gave us some of the best footballers of their generation and in the likes of Ja Fallon, PJ , Dec Meehan, Donnellan, Mannion and DePaor we had some of the best footballers that ever pulled on a Galway jersey.

And in spite of Sunday's defeat the current team are going in the right direction, there's a few problems still to be ironed out but we're in a much better place than we were a few years ago and promotion is still very much a possibility. If we beat Derry the next day (and I think we will) then we'll definitely be thereabouts in terms of going up. It may come down to the last day against Kildare.

Hulk Hands

Robson99 wrote: »

In fairness there was a lot of average footballers in that 98 team.

A lot? 3 maybe, with 7 incredible players also. Id go as far to say that side underachieved with the talent available but it didnt help that after not being far from an AI in 95, they had to deal with an excellent Mayo side in one off games in 96,97 with no back door and unbelievable injuries in 99. Shouldve won in 00 also but put all doubts to bed as to who was the best side of that era with the tour de force once the full side was back in 01.