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Could you be an executioner

  • 13-02-2011 6:11pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭


    I see a lot angry posts claiming :they/he should be shot: so who hear would take the job of actually pulling the trigger,tying the rope,pulling the switch,chopping there head off, it would take a lot of courage and strong will to become an executioner who is up for the job,


    Ps personally i dont agree with capital punishment so i am out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Depends on the money.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    are you recruiting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    I think I could do it in the right circumstances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    It wouldnt bother me as long as i was getting paid. The 1st time would probably be awkward but you would get used to it. Id do it for 25k a year, no weekends and 5 weeks a year holiday.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yep. I am a psycho Nazi though. It's quite a technical job though. hanging certainly is. Get it wrong and they could twitch at the end of the rope, or have their head come off(as a couple of the Iraqi bungled ones did).

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    are you recruiting?


    Well a lot of people here talk the walk how many would walk the walk

    :D(did i say that right):D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    Not me.
    This kind of institutional violence is far more disturbing than murder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Of course... plenty do it in america, maybe ill emigrate!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    realies wrote: »
    Well a lot of people here talk the walk how many would walk the walk

    :D(did i say that right):D

    need some loose ends tightened? it's just business to me ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Sure who wouldn't be grateful of a job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I wish I was Judge Judy Executioner :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Think of all the fame - "Here comes the EXECUTIONER" - AAAAARRRGGGGGHHHH - "I sentence you to, DEATH BY MACHINE GUN"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭JamJamJamJam


    No, I don't think so. I'd get to the point where I'm just about to swing my axe or whatever and I couldn't go through with it :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    I dont think it would take courage at all tbh. I think it would require detachment.

    I've read research where they bang on about how sociopaths make ideal combat soldiers. The average IQ of a common combat soldier is 80. The average IQ of a sociopathic common soldier is 100.

    Going off-topic, but my point is that this type of work is best suited for sociopaths - or stupid people when sociopaths aren't available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    We need Judge Dredd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    pwd wrote: »
    I dont think it would take courage at all tbh. I think it would require detachment.

    I've read research where they bang on about how sociopaths make ideal combat soldiers. The average IQ of a common combat soldier is 80. The average IQ of a sociopathic common soldier is 100.

    Going off-topic, but my point is that this type of work is best suited for sociopaths - or stupid people when sociopaths aren't available.
    Why would you say sociopaths make better soldiers?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Why would you say sociopaths make better soldiers?

    lower sense of conscience perhaps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yep. I am a psycho Nazi though. It's quite a technical job though. hanging certainly is. Get it wrong and they could twitch at the end of the rope, or have their head come off(as a couple of the Iraqi bungled ones did).

    I think the head coming off would be a good sign that the execution will take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    I said I would depending on the money but really I wouldn't. I watched the execution of Saddam Hussien and I must say I felt sick, feeling like that for a tyrant means that I couldn't possibly do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Why would you say sociopaths make better soldiers?

    Better soldiers in combat, they kill without thought, lots of research into killing in war time. I remember one bit of research into people who had killed in WW2 as soldiers, they estimated that only 1% had the ability to kill and kill again while the rest would suffer from guilt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭theg81der


    Give me 5 minutes with anyone who hurts a child......so Yes but depending on circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭sgb


    Never. Capital punishment is WRONG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    in these recessionary times.............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭barbarians


    I believe I could.
    If they've been found guilty of a horrendous crime by a proper jury in a proper court then yeah I'd have no scruples about pulling the switch,trigger or injecting people like John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy or giving the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer what they deserve.
    (unfortunately the last was murdered before he made it to the executioner)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    Depends. Do I get to munge the corpse afterwards?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    What are the job perks? Besides carrying out state sanctioned murder, of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    I wouldn't mind doing it, i require a dental plan though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭dilbert2


    realies wrote: »
    I see a lot angry posts claiming :they/he should be shot: so who hear would take the job of actually pulling the trigger,tying the rope,pulling the switch,chopping there head off, it would take a lot of courage and strong will to become an executioner who is up for the job,


    Ps personally i dont agree with capital punishment so i am out.

    No, execution is a barbaric and outdated concept. Also one should not forget the scope for error - many innocent people have gone to the gallows etc in the past that were later found to be innocent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    realies wrote: »
    Well a lot of people here talk the walk how many would walk the walk

    :D(did i say that right):D

    No, it's talk the talk.

    Yes I would btw, tho I would expect to have weekends off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    No, I like to look in the mirror from time to time. I also like sleep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    At first I was thinking that I probably could be one, but then I had a think about it and realised that if I was the executioner for someone who was later found innocent, I certainly wouldn't feel too good about myself.

    Would probably have criminals looking to kill you as well, not sure I'd be up for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Topper Harley01


    I would charge premium for gang members and terrorists-their pals would try and track you down.

    But I'd happily cut the throats of paedophiles and rapists for free. Hell, I'd PAY for the privilege..... :p


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Unless you were living in the US then there wouldnt be many you'd be doing in a career. Not judging by pierrepoint's career in the UK as their last executioner(and ours IIRC). Unless you were getting the major shekels for each time it would be a part time job.

    Though as pierrepoint himself said "I do not now believe that any one of the hundreds of executions I carried out has in any way acted as a deterrent against future murder. Capital punishment, in my view, achieved nothing except revenge."

    So in reality? I wouldnt do it. Not unless it was in revenge for the loss of one my own. Then yes. I'd gut them like a fish. Slowly.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    I don't think I could do it.
    Imagine if a friend or relative got sentenced to death and you had to put them down :( bummer.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I don't think I could do it.
    Imagine if a friend or relative got sentenced to death and you had to put them down :( bummer.
    Happened to that english lad pierrepoint. He owned a pub which was his main income and one of his well loved customers murdered a woman IIRC and he had to execute him.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    I would guess that most people would be abhorred with taking another persons life, whether it is state sanction execution, murder or manslaughter.
    I personally could not be an executioner and my view is that capital punishment is wrong.
    There is a but.

    Some of the gangland slayings and drug related killings are done by people who have absolutely no regard for human life whatsoever. These people are extremely dangerous to and also a burden on society.
    In that case, if they were all found in a ditch with a bullet in the head, I don't think that I would lose too much sleep over them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    I would do it for free if it was for bertie ahern. Heres hoping ireland takes back execution. One can only hope and dream


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Only if I didn't have to clean up the mess afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Happened to that english lad pierrepoint. He owned a pub which was his main income and one of his well loved customers murdered a woman IIRC and he had to execute him.

    Wasn't he recruited by the Irish government to carry out executions here, for some strange reason? They must have felt that the English could carry on being blamed for getting rid of old-IRA members and anyone else sentenced to death after the founding of the State.

    I don't think that anyone sentenced to death here was actually executed by an Irishman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭franklyon




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    No I couldn't. Awful job and horrible nights. Anyone who actually would say yes would have to be sociopathic or happen to have an otherwise great life on the side. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    Save the country millions instead of keeping them in high security jails, am sure some of their victims family would charge no fee but you would have to spend some time and money training them in the most efficient way to to painlessly execute these low lifer's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 3pigs


    i would do it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    realies wrote: »
    Could you be an executioner


    yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Wasn't he recruited by the Irish government to carry out executions here, for some strange reason? They must have felt that the English could carry on being blamed for getting rid of old-IRA members and anyone else sentenced to death after the founding of the State.

    I don't think that anyone sentenced to death here was actually executed by an Irishman.

    Apparently hanging someone properly to break the neck and a quarter swing to the left is quite a technical job.

    Executing someone improperly isn't quite legal.

    If there's an expert knocking about............

    Don't know if I'd do it myself. Could think of some who deserve it and would gladly do it, but a randomer sent to you by a corrupt/inefficient judicial system, not so much.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    There are weight tables and rope lengths. So a 14 stone guy might need a 10 foot drop to the end a 20 stone guy only 5 foot. You have to use a hemp rope prestretched overnight. Any eejit could do it, but you would want someone skilled to do it well. best way to go by current legal methods, though slow O2 replacement in a chamber would be the best.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Apparently hanging someone properly to break the neck and a quarter swing to the left is quite a technical job.

    Executing someone improperly isn't quite legal.

    If there's an expert knocking about............

    shot to the head close quarter .... no problem re improper execution nothing technical

    injection - nothing technical here either...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Executing someone improperly isn't quite legal.
    Tell that to the yanks in the bible belt states. Iranians similar and the Chinese are a bit mad too.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Topper Harley01


    Wibbs wrote: »
    There are weight tables and rope lengths. So a 14 stone guy might need a 10 foot drop to the end a 20 stone guy only 5 foot. You have to use a hemp rope prestretched overnight. Any eejit could do it, but you would want someone skilled to do it well. best way to go by current legal methods, though slow O2 replacement in a chamber would be the best.

    I wonder if FAS would consider running a course? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Dr conrad murray


    i,ve executed many people befour and found it quite satisfiying


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