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Could you be an executioner

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  • #32
    Hank_Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    At first I was thinking that I probably could be one, but then I had a think about it and realised that if I was the executioner for someone who was later found innocent, I certainly wouldn't feel too good about myself.

    Would probably have criminals looking to kill you as well, not sure I'd be up for that.


  • #33
    Topper Harley01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Topper Harley01


    I would charge premium for gang members and terrorists-their pals would try and track you down.

    But I'd happily cut the throats of paedophiles and rapists for free. Hell, I'd PAY for the privilege..... :p


  • #34
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Unless you were living in the US then there wouldnt be many you'd be doing in a career. Not judging by pierrepoint's career in the UK as their last executioner(and ours IIRC). Unless you were getting the major shekels for each time it would be a part time job.

    Though as pierrepoint himself said "I do not now believe that any one of the hundreds of executions I carried out has in any way acted as a deterrent against future murder. Capital punishment, in my view, achieved nothing except revenge."

    So in reality? I wouldnt do it. Not unless it was in revenge for the loss of one my own. Then yes. I'd gut them like a fish. Slowly.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #35
    the purple tin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    I don't think I could do it.
    Imagine if a friend or relative got sentenced to death and you had to put them down :( bummer.


  • #36
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    the purple tin wrote: »
    I don't think I could do it.
    Imagine if a friend or relative got sentenced to death and you had to put them down :( bummer.
    Happened to that english lad pierrepoint. He owned a pub which was his main income and one of his well loved customers murdered a woman IIRC and he had to execute him.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #37
    stoneill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭stoneill


    I would guess that most people would be abhorred with taking another persons life, whether it is state sanction execution, murder or manslaughter.
    I personally could not be an executioner and my view is that capital punishment is wrong.
    There is a but.

    Some of the gangland slayings and drug related killings are done by people who have absolutely no regard for human life whatsoever. These people are extremely dangerous to and also a burden on society.
    In that case, if they were all found in a ditch with a bullet in the head, I don't think that I would lose too much sleep over them.


  • #38
    ilovesleep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    I would do it for free if it was for bertie ahern. Heres hoping ireland takes back execution. One can only hope and dream


  • #39
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Only if I didn't have to clean up the mess afterwards.


  • #40
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Happened to that english lad pierrepoint. He owned a pub which was his main income and one of his well loved customers murdered a woman IIRC and he had to execute him.

    Wasn't he recruited by the Irish government to carry out executions here, for some strange reason? They must have felt that the English could carry on being blamed for getting rid of old-IRA members and anyone else sentenced to death after the founding of the State.

    I don't think that anyone sentenced to death here was actually executed by an Irishman.


  • #41
    franklyon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭franklyon


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056178556

    Yes


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  • #42
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    No I couldn't. Awful job and horrible nights. Anyone who actually would say yes would have to be sociopathic or happen to have an otherwise great life on the side. ;)


  • #43
    terenc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    Save the country millions instead of keeping them in high security jails, am sure some of their victims family would charge no fee but you would have to spend some time and money training them in the most efficient way to to painlessly execute these low lifer's.


  • #44
    3pigs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭3pigs


    i would do it


  • #45
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    realies wrote: »
    Could you be an executioner


    yes


  • #46
    dresden8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭dresden8


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Wasn't he recruited by the Irish government to carry out executions here, for some strange reason? They must have felt that the English could carry on being blamed for getting rid of old-IRA members and anyone else sentenced to death after the founding of the State.

    I don't think that anyone sentenced to death here was actually executed by an Irishman.

    Apparently hanging someone properly to break the neck and a quarter swing to the left is quite a technical job.

    Executing someone improperly isn't quite legal.

    If there's an expert knocking about............

    Don't know if I'd do it myself. Could think of some who deserve it and would gladly do it, but a randomer sent to you by a corrupt/inefficient judicial system, not so much.


  • #47
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    There are weight tables and rope lengths. So a 14 stone guy might need a 10 foot drop to the end a 20 stone guy only 5 foot. You have to use a hemp rope prestretched overnight. Any eejit could do it, but you would want someone skilled to do it well. best way to go by current legal methods, though slow O2 replacement in a chamber would be the best.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #48
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Apparently hanging someone properly to break the neck and a quarter swing to the left is quite a technical job.

    Executing someone improperly isn't quite legal.

    If there's an expert knocking about............

    shot to the head close quarter .... no problem re improper execution nothing technical

    injection - nothing technical here either...


  • #49
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Executing someone improperly isn't quite legal.
    Tell that to the yanks in the bible belt states. Iranians similar and the Chinese are a bit mad too.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #50
    Topper Harley01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Topper Harley01


    Wibbs wrote: »
    There are weight tables and rope lengths. So a 14 stone guy might need a 10 foot drop to the end a 20 stone guy only 5 foot. You have to use a hemp rope prestretched overnight. Any eejit could do it, but you would want someone skilled to do it well. best way to go by current legal methods, though slow O2 replacement in a chamber would be the best.

    I wonder if FAS would consider running a course? :D


  • #51
    Dr conrad murray
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Dr conrad murray


    i,ve executed many people befour and found it quite satisfiying


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  • #52
    dresden8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭dresden8


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Tell that to the yanks in the bible belt states. Iranians similar and the Chinese are a bit mad too.

    Our executions were much more civilised than that bunch of redneck mullah ching chongs doncha know.

    One must observe the niceties of killing someone.

    Anything else is just barbaric.


  • #53
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    sligopark wrote: »
    shot to the head close quarter .... no problem re improper execution nothing technical
    Nope. Depends on where the bullet enters the head/brain. You will note the recent survival of the US senator. Calibre makes a diff too. Oh sure the vast majority will die of a head shot, but will they die clean and quickly?
    injection - nothing technical here either...
    Nope again. It's a sequence it's not just one injection. Plus because of the Hippocratic oath that doctors swear(first do no harm being the gist of it) US doctors won't perform executions by lethal injection. So this is done by untrained types. Then you have inmates who may be habitual drug users or have different reactions to the first anaesthetic or the following drugs. Could you find a suitable vein without training?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #54
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Our executions were much more civilised than that bunch of redneck mullah ching chongs doncha know.

    One must observe the niceties of killing someone.

    Anything else is just barbaric.
    Actually if we leave behind the often ridiculous cultural relativism popular at the moment, "ours" were. Though capital punishment is well dodgy, I would consider a culture superior if in the event that they hadn't outlawed the practice yet, they sought to make it as humane as possible.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #55
    dresden8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭dresden8


    Wibbs wrote: »
    There are weight tables and rope lengths. So a 14 stone guy might need a 10 foot drop to the end a 20 stone guy only 5 foot. You have to use a hemp rope prestretched overnight. Any eejit could do it, but you would want someone skilled to do it well.

    Indeed, an instruction book will only take you so far.


  • #56
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Tell that to the yanks in the bible belt states.

    They even execute mentally retarded people... oh the shining light of the west..


  • #57
    dresden8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭dresden8


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Actually if we leave behind the often ridiculous cultural relativism popular at the moment, "ours" were. Though capital punishment is well dodgy, I would consider a culture superior if in the event that they hadn't outlawed the practice yet, they sought to make it as humane as possible.

    I thought I was being post-modern ironic. Or something.


  • #58
    terenc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    F.E.T.A.C level 5 or maybe higher methinks :rolleyes:


  • #59
    Jimmy the Wheel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Jimmy the Wheel


    Wibbs wrote: »
    ....though slow O2 replacement in a chamber would be the best.


    Changing over to Vodafone would kill anyone.


  • #60
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Nope. Depends on where the bullet enters the head/brain. You will note the recent survival of the US senator. Calibre makes a diff too. Oh sure the vast majority will die of a head shot, but will they die clean and quickly?

    oh I think we could work out the calibre, perhaps aim a shot into the lower medulla and at an angle with a notched bullet tip so as to make sure... its not rocket science

    and you know what - if there's movement post first shot lets not hang around, shoot again ;)


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  • #61
    terenc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    Love to see a referendum on the death penalty, I would vote for its return and I believe as a nation it would be a close call because the Justice system is a joke, F#ck the victim and families lets rehabilitate the scumbags.


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