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Bodacious

First part calf... Came chocolate with a white head, very lively heifer calf too... I'd use sirex again... She fired her out

limo_100

Bodacious wrote: »

First part calf... Came chocolate with a white head, very lively heifer calf too... I'd use sirex again... She fired her out

your happy so.. did your that are in calf to LGL and CVV ever calf and if so was the quality good??

Bodacious

limo_100 wrote: »

Bodacious wrote: »

First part calf... Came chocolate with a white head, very lively heifer calf too... I'd uUse sirex again... She fired her out

your happy so.. did your that are in calf to LGL and CVV ever calf and if so was the quality good??

2 calved to CVV no hassle, 1 bull and 1 heifer, only a couple of days old but they seem grand leggy looking, I had no lgl but used the char kIb and CF61 and very happy with both.

Only trouble I had was a huge BB Ross alo bull calf backways but he doing fine now, will prob be the best calf if his muscle develops

4 to go, char, fl22, Ross alo and sim IS4

limo_100

Bodacious wrote: »

2 calved to CVV no hassle, 1 bull and 1 heifer, only a couple of days old but they seem grand leggy looking, I had no lgl but used the char kIb and CF61 and very happy with both.

Only trouble I had was a huge BB Ross alo bull calf backways but he doing fine now, will prob be the best calf if his muscle develops

4 to go, char, fl22, Ross alo and sim IS4

I had a AZL calf sat and its a fairly good calf but not overly big but quite with calved unassisted. I also had a DEP heifer calf on fri evening probably one of the best calves I have seen born. She was a very big tall, wide and long calf but tradagy struck her. Her navel was very week and it busted open and all her guts came out. we had to put her down. :mad:

just do it

jimskoda wrote: »

has anyone used easy calving simmental huz on heifers? is hca the easiest calving limo? anyone use speckle park? heifers are simmental x friesian and hereford x friesian

What are you looking at breeding? Replacements? Milk won't be an issue anyway!

I'd say HUZ and HCA are both easy calving according to ICBF. Can't report on them until next year though, I've a HCA straw given to one heifer but switched to a shorthorn LYJ for the other heifers. HCA docility isn't great and plenty LM blood in them already! I'd asked the AI man to get a few HUZ but my other heifers had all come bulling by the time he got them.

Bodacious

limo_100 wrote: »

Bodacious wrote: »

2 calved to CVV no hassle, 1 bull and 1 heifer, only a couple of days old but they seem grand leggy looking, I had no lgl but used the char kIb and CF61 and very happy with both.

Only trouble I had was a huge BB Ross alo bull calf backways but he doing fine now, will prob be the best calf if his muscle develops

4 to go, char, fl22, Ross alo and sim IS4

I had a AZL calf sat and its a fairly good calf but not overly big but quite with calved unassisted. I also had a DEP heifer calf on fri evening probably one of the best calves I have seen born. She was a very big tall, wide and long calf but tradagy struck her. Her navel was very week and it busted open and all her guts came out. we had to put her down. :mad:

Jees I'm sorry to hear that limo.

Big loss by the sounds of it

reilig

Mt Cranium's Weather Forecast. Time to put back in the cows methinks. . . .

TUESDAY NIGHT and WEDNESDAY ... Rain arriving in the southwest Tuesday evening will gradually spread across the south in strong east to southeast winds and there may be some locally heavy downpours, with sleet possible on higher ground as temperatures near sea level stay close to 6-8 C. The rain may once again avoid parts of the far north or at least will be quite light there, but other regions could see a steady downpour and 30-60 mms of rain by late Wednesday as winds continue quite strong from the east at 30-50 mph, adding a chill to temperatures in the 7-9 C range (3-6 C on higher ground). Spot flooding may develop especially from about Cork east to Wexford and perhaps as far north as Offaly to Dublin/Meath. Some models are taking this storm a bit further south than others, so forecasts could shift around somewhat between now and Tuesday.

JohnBoy

how many 9 inch hollow blocks in a pack?

cjpm

20 blocks

orangebud

where can i find 73 mircon?

tismesoitis

weighed the 1st batch of weaned bulls today the 9 of them were weaned 3 weeks ago. Happy enough with weights.
BYU born 26.7.11 475kgs
BYU " 28.7.11 385KGS
EDJ " 1.8.11 385KGS
BYU " 3.8.11 420KGS
FHZ " 4.8.11 415KGS
EkB " 10.8.11 450KGS
RSW " 26.8.11 380KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 335KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 330KGS

They are on 3.5 kgs of meal since weaning and were on 1.5kgs for the 3 months before that.

1chippy

tismesoitis wrote: »

weighed the 1st batch of weaned bulls today the 9 of them were weaned 3 weeks ago. Happy enough with weights.
BYU born 26.7.11 475kgs
BYU " 28.7.11 385KGS
EDJ " 1.8.11 385KGS
BYU " 3.8.11 420KGS
FHZ " 4.8.11 415KGS
ETB " 10.8.11 450KGS
RSW " 26.8.11 380KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 335KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 330KGS

They are on 3.5 kgs of meal since weaning and were on 1.5kgs for the 3 months before that.

what do you believe are the main differences in the weight. see for instance the two first byu calves 1 is 2 days older and 90kgs heavier. what were the crosses and is there milk or was one sick. sorry about all the q's. still trying to learn.

tismesoitis

1chippy wrote: »

what do you believe are the main differences in the weight. see for instance the two first byu calves 1 is 2 days older and 90kgs heavier. what were the crosses and is there milk or was one sick. sorry about all the q's. still trying to learn.

the 2nd lads mother got a severe case of mastitis which practically dried her up for the first 3 months. had vet with her 3 times and really thought she would'nt make it. ended up cutting her spin off to help her drain. in the following 2 or 3 months the quarter broke out in a further 2 places:eek: some mess. she is a black lim. the 1st calf is out of a red sim cow. both cows would be very milky maybe too much so if there is such a thing.

1chippy

TISMESOITIS
what breed do you reckon crosses best to get the weight gain. are they heavily muscled or plain cows and what sort of suckler do you reckon rears the calf best. sorry but i'm both nosey and curious just to hear other opinions. i try to fool myself into thinking i will use it all but more likely i'll just pick the bits i want to use and apply them to my own system.
P.S THEY ARE PRETTY DECENT WEIGHTS, ESPECIALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE TWINS

moy83

I was pondering the same question about what are the best cows to keep Chippy . I think the limo x fr cows are what we will be leaning towards mostly . They easier to keep than a big heavy cow (especially on our soft ground ) . I wonder what pays best a big cow throwing a super calf , or a nice hardy black limo giving a good decent calf but not quite an super calf ?

just do it

reilig wrote: »

Mt Cranium's Weather Forecast. Time to put back in the cows methinks. . . .

I find this map for 5 day forecast good: http://www.met.ie/forecasts/5day-ireland.asp

just do it

tismesoitis wrote: »

weighed the 1st batch of weaned bulls today the 9 of them were weaned 3 weeks ago. Happy enough with weights.
BYU born 26.7.11 475kgs
BYU " 28.7.11 385KGS
EDJ " 1.8.11 385KGS
BYU " 3.8.11 420KGS
FHZ " 4.8.11 415KGS
ETB " 10.8.11 450KGS
RSW " 26.8.11 380KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 335KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 330KGS

They are on 3.5 kgs of meal since weaning and were on 1.5kgs for the 3 months before that.

Thanks for the figures tismesoitis. You can be proud of them! I reckon you've achieved a LWG of ~1.35kg/day which is for autumn calves.

What's your plan with them? Will you be selling or finishing them? I've just weaned a few autumn calves as well and considering what's the best plan of action with them.

johngalway

just do it wrote: »

I find this map for 5 day forecast good: http://www.met.ie/forecasts/5day-ireland.asp

Thanks for that JDI, it does look useful alright. I'll have to see how it tallies with us shooting at night, be awful handy if it's accurate!

just do it

johngalway wrote: »

just do it wrote: »

I find this map for 5 day forecast good: http://www.met.ie/forecasts/5day-ireland.asp

Thanks for that JDI, it does look useful alright. I'll have to see how it tallies with us shooting at night, be awful handy if it's accurate!

The rain radar on the same website for the previous 3 hours is also very handy for judging what the next hour our two will be like.

vanderbadger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jN5RWKsJq4
just came across this video, ch x aubrac and ch x saler, french video, smashing cattle
lovely day here at work, no sign of the rain yet

leg wax

vanderbadger wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jN5RWKsJq4
just came across this video, ch x aubrac and ch x saler, french video, smashing cattle
lovely day here at work, no sign of the rain yet

does looking at you tube count as work?

vanderbadger

leg wax wrote: »

does looking at you tube count as work?

ya about as much as reading boards.ie counts as farming

Richk2012

tismesoitis wrote: »

weighed the 1st batch of weaned bulls today the 9 of them were weaned 3 weeks ago. Happy enough with weights.
BYU born 26.7.11 475kgs
BYU " 28.7.11 385KGS
EDJ " 1.8.11 385KGS
BYU " 3.8.11 420KGS
FHZ " 4.8.11 415KGS
ETB " 10.8.11 450KGS
RSW " 26.8.11 380KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 335KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 330KGS

Great weights there tismesoitis . Iv most of the cows Autumn calving now . Switched a couple of years ago . Find the strong calves make much better use of spring grass .
Just looking at the D.O.B of the calves though . You start calving in July?? Do you not be plagued with mastitis , when cows are springing heavy and just freshly calved ???
I had 5 maiden heifers calving down before the cows this season , and they started last week in August . Cows followed a month later .

redzerologhlen

3 heifers rising on the bull today, the bull doesnt know what to do with himself!! Strange the way 3 of them came together and I hadnt seen anything bulling all along.

bob charles

redzerologhlen wrote: »

3 heifers rising on the bull today, the bull doesnt know what to do with himself!! Strange the way 3 of them came together and I hadnt seen anything bulling all along.

Typical when your waiting for the bus and none come along for ages, then all at once a good few come together, bet the bull is a tired man tonight. Luck him:D

tismesoitis

1chippy wrote: »

TISMESOITIS
what breed do you reckon crosses best to get the weight gain. are they heavily muscled or plain cows and what sort of suckler do you reckon rears the calf best. sorry but i'm both nosey and curious just to hear other opinions. i try to fool myself into thinking i will use it all but more likely i'll just pick the bits i want to use and apply them to my own system.
P.S THEY ARE PRETTY DECENT WEIGHTS, ESPECIALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE TWINS

the cows are all 1st cross of dairy cows. would be happiest with the 3/4 lims 1/4 friesian. i think there is such a thing as too much milk especially when calf is young. sims are way too milky and if and when we have a case of mastitis it is more often than not one of them.

tismesoitis

just do it wrote: »

Thanks for the figures tismesoitis. You can be proud of them! I reckon you've achieved a LWG of ~1.35kg/day which is for autumn calves.

What's your plan with them? Will you be selling or finishing them? I've just weaned a few autumn calves as well and considering what's the best plan of action with them.

will bring them to carnaross mart in 2 batches when the lightest of each batch is 450kgs. reckon we'l be away with the 1st group in about a month.

tismesoitis

Richk2012 wrote: »

tismesoitis wrote: »

weighed the 1st batch of weaned bulls today the 9 of them were weaned 3 weeks ago. Happy enough with weights.
BYU born 26.7.11 475kgs
BYU " 28.7.11 385KGS
EDJ " 1.8.11 385KGS
BYU " 3.8.11 420KGS
FHZ " 4.8.11 415KGS
ETB " 10.8.11 450KGS
RSW " 26.8.11 380KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 335KGS
RSW TWIN 10.8.11 330KGS

Great weights there tismesoitis . Iv most of the cows Autumn calving now . Switched a couple of years ago . Find the strong calves make much better use of spring grass .
Just looking at the D.O.B of the calves though . You start calving in July?? Do you not be plagued with mastitis , when cows are springing heavy and just freshly calved ???
I had 5 maiden heifers calving down before the cows this season , and they started last week in August . Cows followed a month later .

Have to agree Rich would be fond of the autumn calves.Have a few casses of mastitis alrite but would'nt say plagued. milky cows are always the first to give bother. Finished calving 4th april(hoped not to have any calve in april) starting with autunm calving(:rolleyes:) around the middle of june this year. 1st cow served sept 1st so should have calves from 15-20th on.maybe i'm wrong but i think cash flow is important and going out with weanlings when the marts are'nt full of them is also important!!

Richk2012

tismesoitis wrote: »

Richk2012 wrote: »

Have to agree Rich would be fond of the autumn calves.Have a few casses of mastitis alrite but would'nt say plagued. milky cows are always the first to give bother. Finished calving 4th april(hoped not to have any calve in april) starting with autunm calving(:rolleyes:) around the middle of june this year. 1st cow served sept 1st so should have calves from 15-20th on.maybe i'm wrong but i think cash flow is important and going out with weanlings when the marts are'nt full of them is also important!!

Yea true thats a very valid point , lack of supply means a greater demand which in turn means better prices.
I agree with you on cows having too much milk , especially after calving . Iv cows bred from British Fresians , and the calves cant manage the milk supply at first for a couple of weeks but the cows dont be long adjusting .
Iv diluted them down again though , keeping heifers from these half Dairy cows , and found these to be the best type of cow. They are still great milkers but are more beefy, and are in stronger condition than the half fresians , coming in heat sooner too .
Iv heard good things about Carnaross Mart , and Im threatining to bring some of the weaners there this year instead of the usual mart . Let me know how you get on with them

Kovu

I was messing at work today and dared someone to put a sheep tag through my plug.......they called my bluff. So had to walk back to the office with a tag in my ear and find a wirecutters


(And you can say yuck all you like, I like it:cool:)