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Constituency Betting

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,331 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    dabestman1 wrote: »
    Anyone think the socialist party just to get 1 Seat is good value @ 11/2, not too sure clare daly will get in but joe higgins will. Any thoughts?

    good spot, i see value at that price alright, 2 still the most likely but I don't see them getting many transfers so could be hard to call.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭dabestman1


    really thinkiing about lumping a few bob on the 1 seat, make it interesting on sat, cant see any other value in the market, any other tips?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    dabestman1 wrote: »
    really thinkiing about lumping a few bob on the 1 seat, make it interesting on sat, cant see any other value in the market, any other tips?

    I lumped on Michael Colreavy in Sligo. 11/10 with Boyles,took the 9/4 with PP.Article in the Sligo Weekender has him number 2,number 1 on the boards poll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    +1. Look out for John Brady in Wicklow at 5/2 also. I don't want to see him elected but the cold hard facts are: Brady is going to be a TD.

    Did you back it yourself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Declan Bree at 10/1 with PP in Sligo is worth a few quid. Gonna be close for the third seat. Not a gaurantee but odds are too big for that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭BQQ


    declan breathnach could be worth a bet @11/4 in Louth.

    traditionally 2 FF seats in Louth - not this time obviously, but I think there's still a FF seat here.

    With Kirk as ceann comhairle and D Ahern retired, where is the core FF vote going?
    With the first 3 in the betting based in south louth, the other FF candidate has a fight on his hands not to be eliminated early.
    Dundalk will want someone local to get in and i think he'll pick up Ahern's core vote.
    I fancy him to scrape through at the expense of the labour party.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea



    I've an uncle down in Wexford,must see what he says.
    Will throw a few bean on if I win a few quid today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,331 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    8-10 wrote: »
    Richard Boyd-Barrett (PBP) is 2/1 with powers. I don't support his politics at all but he's gained quite a bit of popularity with strong local initiatives over the past few years.

    In 2007 he narrowly lost out on a seat to Green's Ciaran Cuffe, whom he actually got more 1st preference votes than at that time. Cuffe is certain to lose his seat this time around along with at least 1 of the 2 FF seats - Mary Hannafin or Barry Andrews IMO.

    If I was calling Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown today I would guess at:

    1. Eamonn Gilmore (LAB)
    2. Sean Barrett (FG)
    3. Mary Hannafin (FF)
    4. Richard Boyd-Barrett (PBP)

    Ivan Yates on Newstalk called it similar to me this morning - http://media.newstalk.ie/extra/2094/popup

    He's gone:

    1. Eamonn Gilmore (LAB)
    2. Sean Barrett (FG)
    3. Richard Boyd-Barrett (PBP)
    4. Mary Hannafin (FF)

    ...so obviously thinking RBB has a better chance than I'm claiming. He agrees that Gilmore's transfers will struggle to get Bacik elected (4/5 with PP) and thinks that without her Hannafin will just get in (evens) with support from the women's vote.

    Boyd Barrett slightly shorter than when I posted before, now 7/4, and Hannafin lengthened from 8/13 to 1/1 which makes her attractive now too.

    Definitely think one of the 2 will get in, Hannafin is a big name in what has been a strong FF constituency since I started voting, Boyd-Barrett should lead the protest vote with a strong first pref.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    PP have FG to win 68-71 seats at 6/1 - was at 10/1 but I put a fairly decent wad on it.

    Still 6/1 is good value.

    I've gone through every constitutency and can't see more than 73 seats on a good day for FG, I'm guessing at 69/70. It would take a bad day to be 67 or under.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    How much is a decent wad if you don't mind me asking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    300 online and the same again in their newbridge branch - branch had to make 3 calls before accepting - seems politics comes under "sports" in pp:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 976 ✭✭✭supremenovice


    Brian Lenihan is 10/11 to get a seat in Dublin West.
    Its full of political stars like Varadker and Joan Burton but surely hes too big a casualty in a 4 seater.
    Im gettin a bit of that 10/11.

    Also fancy Mary Hanafin and Eamon Ryan in their respective constituancies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I have come up with my conclusions.

    FF will do awful, pathetic.

    Fiann Fail i anticipate meltdown with them getting: 25 seats

    Labour to do much better than anticipated at the moment: 40

    Fine Gael not to do as good as some expect: 70

    Sinn Fein:
    12

    Greens: 2

    Others: 17


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    Fine Gael not to do as good as some expect: 70

    :D:D:D Here's hoping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jimi_t2


    Judging by the amount of independents who aren't going to get in, I'd postulate that a tonne of transfer votes will end up with Fine Gael and would strongly feel they'd be somewhere between 75 and 80 seats. They certainly will get no less than 72.

    Batchik/Hanafin are basically duking it out at this stage in DL/Rathdown over the Pro-Life/Pro-Choice debate - Batchik being held up as the biggest abortionist in the Dail and the Hanafin losing credibility over her Vincent Browne performance last night.

    Lenihan in Dublin West isn't bad price wise, but I'd be wary of Patrick Nutly sneaking in (hope he does tbh). Also, backing the only TD actually working for the IMF this election... you've got brass ones mate! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    I think Lenihan at 10/11 is a decent price, I would have thought it would have been more like 1/2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    jimi_t2 wrote: »
    Judging by the amount of independents who aren't going to get in, I'd postulate that a tonne of transfer votes will end up with Fine Gael and would strongly feel they'd be somewhere between 75 and 80 seats. They certainly will get no less than 72.

    I'm not so sure about that. The FG voter will vote immediately for FG with 1 2 3, same goes for SF & PBP & socialists. Supporters of left parties generally tend to vote #1 for that party and then 2 for similar.

    So if a SF gets knocked out, second prefs will go to similar parties.


    In the case of pure independents such as Clifford Reid in Kildare south, they may get the core FF protest vote and then when eliminated a lot more of their transfers will go to FF & Lab.

    Overall, I expect bith FF & Lab to do well from transfers, but FG to get a very good 1st pref.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jimi_t2


    91011 wrote: »
    Overall, I expect bith FF & Lab to do well from transfers, but FG to get a very good 1st pref.

    As a general trend for strategic voting, I'd expect Labour to be getting quite a few first preferences in their traditional bastions and FG to be getting more 2nd and 3rd due to the ''Ah but they're in anyway'' attitude.

    A lot of ex-FFs, blueshirt nonsense aside, are actually going to end up voting FG as well. You'd be suprised what people are boiling it down to, even today, based on anecdotal evidence (about as viable as Red C tbh :D).

    The big danger here is someone like Chris Andrews getting in on transfers in Dublin South East and ousting Humphreys, leaving it to Quinn to maintain some element of representation in one of the biggest constituencies.

    Overs/Unders on Independents anyone? Might as well hear the reasoning, looks like throwing darts blindfolded to me.

    EDIT:

    Also, just to retract my previous statement, Mannix Flynn is sadly definitively out of the race. Sommerville is the bookies stab at an independent seat but I can't see it happening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    jimi_t2 wrote: »
    A lot of ex-FFs, blueshirt nonsense aside, are actually going to end up voting FG as well. You'd be suprised what people are boiling it down to, even today, based on anecdotal evidence (about as viable as Red C tbh :D).


    Overs/Unders on Independents anyone? Might as well hear the reasoning, looks like throwing darts blindfolded to me.

    Its certainly going to be the most salivating elections for many years if not ever.

    The potential spreads on seats when you go though it with a tooth comb by constitutency is amazing. FG are anything from 65 - 78, FF are 24 - 36, Lab are 27 to 39, SF are 9 - 15, green 0 - 2 and inds are 3 - 12.

    For fun, I'm voting Clifford Reid (kildare south) #1 (I know friends of his and he's a decent skin) and then using my numer 2 as my real vote. (Clifford will be knocked out in round 2, so my number 2 will count)

    But an enthralling weekend and possibly week ahead.

    I wonder if PP are betting on the day the final candidate will be elected?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Wexford1798


    91011 wrote: »
    I wonder if PP are betting on the day the final candidate will be elected?

    It could be the end of next week until Wicklow is sorted out. 23 candidates!


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭onekeano


    jimi_t2 wrote: »
    The big danger here is someone like Chris Andrews getting in on transfers in Dublin South East and ousting Humphreys, leaving it to Quinn to maintain some element of representation in one of the biggest constituencies.

    Also, just to retract my previous statement, Mannix Flynn is sadly definitively out of the race. Sommerville is the bookies stab at an independent seat but I can't see it happening

    Sommerville now into 5/4 from 3/1 at the weekend with Andrews going the other way :D

    Roy


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    Heres a few I did about 2 days ago.

    The Banker: Stagg to get Elected in Kildare North (1.08)

    Gleeson to get elected in Kerry South (4/1) @ €5

    Cuffe to get elected in Dun Laoghaire (13/1) @ €3

    Brian O Domhnall to get elected in Donegal SW (3/1) @ €5

    Sinn Fein to get 10 seats or less (3/1) @ €10

    Speculative bets more than anything but sure we'll see how it goes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭unknownlegend


    Heres a few I did about 2 days ago.

    The Banker: Stagg to get Elected in Kildare North (1.08)

    Gleeson to get elected in Kerry South (4/1) @ €5

    Cuffe to get elected in Dun Laoghaire (13/1) @ €3

    Brian O Domhnall to get elected in Donegal SW (3/1) @ €5

    Sinn Fein to get 10 seats or less (3/1) @ €10

    Speculative bets more than anything but sure we'll see how it goes.

    Went with Thomas Pringle at 11/10th in Donegal South/west thinking he'd have a reasonable shout given all the bad things following Coughlan around. Having doubts now! 1/3 on Brian might have been a good call considering transfers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    UrbanSea wrote: »
    I lumped on Michael Colreavy in Sligo. 11/10 with Boyles,took the 9/4 with PP.Article in the Sligo Weekender has him number 2,number 1 on the boards poll.

    Looks like he'll piss it,Sligo/Leitrim's first Sinn Fein seat in 54 years. He was 1/6 with Ladbrokes :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭liogairmhordain


    anyone have odds for highest number of first preferences in the country as a whole?

    the reason i asked this question a few weeks ago was because i was thinking of throwing a few quid on shane ross. ah well.
    (although he might yet be passed out by enda kenny)


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,963 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Mannix Flynn in Dublin South East @ 6/1 is my outside bet.

    Gone after the second count!:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Mine is looking close.****


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jimi_t2


    jimi_t2 wrote: »
    Eoghan Murphy in particular has shortened considerably but is pretty much a cert in, it'll be first four past the post in Dublin South East.
    Also, just to retract my previous statement, Mannix Flynn is sadly definitively out of the race. Sommerville is the bookies stab at an independent seat but I can't see it happening

    :) - Murphy as first in was a surprise, but I'd say a lot of the more conscientious FG voters gave him first choice over Creighton thanks to her same-sex marriage gaff during the week... Great to have two Labour TD's in the area.

    Judging by the amount of independents who aren't going to get in, I'd postulate that a tonne of transfer votes will end up with Fine Gael and would strongly feel they'd be somewhere between 75 and 80 seats. They certainly will get no less than 72.

    68 seats at the moment. Another 3 seats to come from Wicklow, and I'd guess another 2 or 3 overall to bring up to around 75.

    Batchik/Hanafin are basically duking it out at this stage in DL/Rathdown over the Pro-Life/Pro-Choice debate - Batchik being held up as the biggest abortionist in the Dail and the Hanafin losing credibility over her Vincent Browne performance last night.

    Batchik/Hanafin put themselves completely out of contention through in-fighting etc... Pity about Batchik, but glad to see that self-serving bitch Hanafin ousted. Did NOT expect to see Mary M-O'Connor get 16% in a four seater to be honest!

    Luke Flanigan in Roscommon, South Leitrim is 10/11 and would be a very strong option for a seat. He's got every student vote in the constituency on a pro-cannabis ballot, strong ties with the community, has been councillor twice and has strong grassroots support amongst traditional farmers, especially over the turf-cutting yoke. He's also the current mayor of Roscommon.

    :D Delighted he got in regardless. Price wasn't good enough, but it'll be brilliant seeing him in the Dail.

    Hope everyone had fun and VOTED.

    Wonder will PP give me odds on Kenny to be ousted as Taoiseach before July...


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