3 New Navy Vessels for Irish Naval Service

Todd Toddington III

cameramonkey wrote:

I think that should be "your" not "you're". You're is short for you are.

You're correct.

a/tel

cameramonkey wrote: »

I think that should be "your" not "you're". You're is short for you are.

Nothing wrong with my geography though!!!

:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

Tabnabs

With all the talk of how many ships we need, at least the yanks know the answer for their own fleet.

OzCam

"Sounds like a swell idea, Admiral. When y'all figure out how to make a destroyer for 13 bucks and change, come on back and see us."

God Bless the US Navy.

sparky42

Tabnabs wrote: »

With all the talk of how many ships we need, at least the yanks know the answer for their own fleet.

Oh god the LCS, how nobody has been courtmartialled for that epic disaster of a project is beyond me.

BoJack Horseman

sparky42 wrote: »

Oh god the LCS, how nobody has been courtmartialled for that epic disaster of a project is beyond me.

Less firepower than a Beckett for 6 times the price..... Great deal!

sparky42

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Less firepower than a Beckett for 6 times the price..... Great deal!

With a gun that is inaccurate at top speed, mission packages that won't exist until over 1/3 of the first units lifespan is gone... Trying to turn these lemon designs into frigates now is going to be even funnier in the tragic sense.

I love some of the PR statements, "we'll defeat the enemies with our Wash we're so fast" (nice way to avoid saying they can't do anything else)

Rhys Essien

JJ will be delivered any day now.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/hopes-final-sea-trials-will-see-le-james-joyce-delivered-to-navy-339998.html

sparky42

She sailed today:
http://www.northdevongazette.co.uk/news/photos_video_le_james_joyce_sets_sail_for_ireland_1_4136527

Tabnabs

Still engaged in sea trials, hasn't slipped over the horizon just yet.

http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:2857921/mmsi:250003146/imo:9614672/vessel:LE_JAMES_JOYCE

Larbre34

Nice to see her on the move at last regardless, was pretty disheartening seeing her position alongside Appledore for weeks on end.

Still hoping for the commissioning ceremony to be done in Dun Laoghaire in sight of the Joyce museum etc. Anyone have any knowledge about that?

sparky42

Suggestions on IMO that all is not well again on JJ...

Morpheus

Shes back tied up in the harbor in the UK

Larbre34

Oh dear. Well that rather dents the romantic optimism of the North Devon Gazette article....

Tabnabs

I'm hearing September at the earliest for JJ. Apparently all is not well with her builders and quality control is poor. Problems with her and sister-ships will be ironed out on both sides of the Georges Channel before the final cheque is handed over...

Boreas

I take it that if the EPV/MRV does go ahead Appledore are unlikely to be in the running for the contract so.

Larbre34

That's dire stuff. Have problems manifested on the Beckett? Will P63 contract be cancelled you'd wonder?

Larbre34

Boreas wrote: »

I take it that if the EPV/MRV does go ahead Appledore are unlikely to be in the running for the contract so.

The third P60 is the issue at hand. The EPV is years away yet, even if they began speccing it next Monday it could be 3 or 4 years before steel was cut.

mikeym

What a joke.


The P63 build should not go ahead and the contract should be cancelled.

We shouldnt go near Babcock again.

mikeym

Dont forget the Le Aoife was decommissioned Last February because at the time the James Joyce was nearly ready.

And now its July.

sparky42

mikeym wrote: »

What a joke.


The P63 build should not go ahead and the contract should be cancelled.

We shouldnt go near Babcock again.

Then we are down one ship for at least 2-3 years at least, it's not like we can just give the contract at the same price to some other yard and have them start cutting still this year. We'd have to go back out to tender even if we were going to select the exact same P 60 design...

Markcheese

Any word on how Sam is performing and what the Quality is like -

Tabnabs

A full crew was dispatched last week via lorry and ferry to the dockyard in North Devon, where the ship was built in the hope of being able to bring it back to their base in Haulbowline, Cork.

LÉ James Joyce was supposed to be handed over to the Naval Service a number of months ago, but has suffered from several teething problems.

It had been hoped that everything would go smoothly on her most recent sea trials.

However, it turned out there was a major problem with oil leaking from the main engine and the crew was forced to return home again by ferry last weekend.

It was the third time that navy personnel had been dispatched to check out the vessel, which was built at Babcock Marine, the same company which also built the LÉ Samuel Beckett.

The Government has also put in an order for a third, as yet unnamed vessel, which is expected to be delivered early next year.

Sources said the problem didn’t lie with Babcock Marine, but with an Italian company which has supplied the engine to it.

A few weeks ago, plans to bring the ship home were scuppered during sea trials when it transpired the shaft connecting the engines to the propellers had not been properly aligned.

One source said the “noise was unbearable” when the ship was being brought up to full speed during sea trials in the Bristol Channel.

Following that incident, Minister for Defence Simon Coveney said he regarded the problems “as serious enough” not to sign off on accepting the vessel until they were rectified.

He said while the Government had a very good relationship with Babcock Marine — it also built LÉ Róisín and LÉ Niamh — he would not sign off on taking the LÉ James Joyce until the problems are resolved.

Meanwhile, Mr Coveney will be in the Maltese capital Valletta this morning, where he will meet the crew of the flagship LÉ Eithne.

The ship, which is being resupplied, has rescued 3,376 migrant men women and children from unseaworthy vessels.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/navy-crew-abandon-ship-over-problems-onnbspleacute-james-joyce-341088.html#.VZvMeQ_zyfU.twitter


"Sources said the problem didn’t lie with Babcock Marine"

My source says otherwise...

Ren2k7

Is the Beckett experiencing the same problems or is it a problem unique to the Joyce?

sparky42

Tabnabs wrote: »

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"Sources said the problem didn’t lie with Babcock Marine"

My source says otherwise...

Courious that the oil leak only came apparent on testing, would have though that it would be showing even while she was resting at the pierside?

nowecant

Tabnabs wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/navy-crew-abandon-ship-over-problems-onnbspleacute-james-joyce-341088.html#.VZvMeQ_zyfU.twitter

And now the information is in the public domain we get to listen to ignorant comments about Ireland wasting money on 'War Ships' when it could be better spent on bla bla bla bla

mikeym

Crew are going over next week.

sparky42

mikeym wrote: »

Crew are going over next week.

Quick fix? Will the tides be right for getting her out?

Jim from Cork

Was on the Sam at the weekend (SeaFest).
There was scaffolding on the stack and some painting going on about the hull. There were touch up paint spots on the fore deck. A few windows look to have been removed and were covered in plastic.

Larbre34

Informed speculation over on IMO that P62 is due to arrive in Haulbowline on Friday next, vibration issues having been sorted.

Also a bit of a teaser that she might arrive escorted by the Flagship, herself due home from the humanitarian mission in the Med!