Cigarette Advertising

danh789

Do you agree with the ban on cigarette advertising? I just got thinking about this last week while watching the snooker. Remember the days of the Benson and Hedges sponsored Irish Masters?

Or more so in Formula 1. I grew up loving the beauty of cars such as the Rothman sponsored Williams Renault and the Benson and Hedges Jordan's. In fact its fair to say the ban finished off many teams. With the money from tobacco companies there is a good chance Jordan might still be on the F1 grid.

Thats my point. I grew up with with all this cigarette advertising. Loved it, the branding, the colour etc. But I have never once smoked a cigarette in all my life.

So what is everyone else's opinion on the ban of cigarette advertising?

admiralofthefleet

cough

DOC09UNAM

I honestly couldn't care less.

Cookie_Monster

if people were't ****ing morons who were easily swayed by that kind of advertising we wouldn't need to ban it, but then again most people probably wouldn't start smoking then either and they wouldn't bother advertising it.

Crasp

glad it's gone tbh, filthy habit.


Also grew up with the cigarette sponsored F1


Be On Edge lol


ferrari still sponsored by marlboro though.

Guill

danh789 wrote: »

Do you agree with the ban on cigarette advertising? I just got thinking about this last week while watching the snooker. Remember the days of the Benson and Hedges sponsored Irish Masters?

Or more so in Formula 1. I grew up loving the beauty of cars such as the Rothman sponsored Williams Renault and the Benson and Hedges Jordan's. In fact its fair to say the ban finished off many teams. With the money from tobacco companies there is a good chance Jordan might still be on the F1 grid.

Thats my point. I grew up with with all this cigarette advertising. Loved it, the branding, the colour etc. But I have never once smoked a cigarette in all my life.



So what is everyone else's opinion on the ban of cigarette advertising?

Shame about your drink, gambling, sex and drug problems though...

RichieC

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Lotus_79_2009_Lime_Rock.jpg



Vrooooom!!!!!

the ciggy ad made it go faster, not the side skirts as the liberally biased Wikipedia would have you believe!

danh789

Crasp wrote: »

glad it's gone tbh, filthy habit.


Also grew up with the cigarette sponsored F1


Be On Edge lol


ferrari still sponsored by marlboro though.

For those who dont know.....

Benson and Hedges

whiteonion

For public health reasons I think smoking should be banned. I have several times witnessed pregnant women smoking, that makes me so angry

RichieC

whiteonion wrote: »

For public health reasons I think smoking should be banned. I have several times witnessed pregnant women smoking, that makes me so angry

Minding your own Fking business helps keep the old blood pressure down.

mikemac

danh789 wrote: »

Benson and Hedges Jordan's.

Their debut season in the 7up livery was a beautiful car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21532948@N04/3794658268/

danh789

RichieC wrote: »

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Lotus_79_2009_Lime_Rock.jpg



Vrooooom!!!!!

the ciggy ad made it go faster, not the side skirts as the liberally biased Wikipedia would have you believe!

I'll see you Lotus and I'll raise you a Jordan 199

http://www.atlasf1.com/news/1999/images/jordan199.jpg

KungPao

danh789 wrote: »

Do you agree with the ban on cigarette advertising? I just got thinking about this last week while watching the snooker. Remember the days of the Benson and Hedges sponsored Irish Masters?

Or more so in Formula 1. I grew up loving the beauty of cars such as the Rothman sponsored Williams Renault and the Benson and Hedges Jordan's. In fact its fair to say the ban finished off many teams. With the money from tobacco companies there is a good chance Jordan might still be on the F1 grid.

Thats my point. I grew up with with all this cigarette advertising. Loved it, the branding, the colour etc. But I have never once smoked a cigarette in all my life.

So what is everyone else's opinion on the ban of cigarette advertising?

F1 just ain't the same without Marlboro Ferrari, B&H Jordan and Lucky Strike BAR, with Mick Scumacher driving into Jack Villeneuve and the Minardi's 4 minutes off the pace.

Now we have boring Button and dull Hamilton, and not a cigarette in sight.

Deus Ex Machina

Smoking is cool. It is cool to be self destructive during one's youth.

tommyhaas

Yea I think it should be banned. Intellegent, sophisticated people dont need silly ad's to tell them how enjoyable and relaxing it is to sit back and enjoy the experience of inhaling a finely blended Marlboro cigarette, rolled with only the finest tobacco. Tastes good like a cigarette should

Smoking, 6 million people can't be wrong

TeddyTedson

danh789 wrote: »

Do you agree with the ban on cigarette advertising? I just got thinking about this last week while watching the snooker. Remember the days of the Benson and Hedges sponsored Irish Masters?

Or more so in Formula 1. I grew up loving the beauty of cars such as the Rothman sponsored Williams Renault and the Benson and Hedges Jordan's. In fact its fair to say the ban finished off many teams. With the money from tobacco companies there is a good chance Jordan might still be on the F1 grid.

Thats my point. I grew up with with all this cigarette advertising. Loved it, the branding, the colour etc. But I have never once smoked a cigarette in all my life.

So what is everyone else's opinion on the ban of cigarette advertising?

I remember being a kid and seeing massive full page advertisements for cigarettes (What the feck was I reading the paper for?).
The Snooker too was strongly sponsored by the cigarette companies.
I think they should be allowed advertise. I don't smoke because I CHOOSE NOT TO!
It is unfair on the less well known cigarette brands!

bobblepuzzle

whiteonion wrote: »

For public health reasons I think smoking should be banned. I have several times witnessed pregnant women smoking, that makes me so angry

Why does it make you angry? Do you suffer from emotional problems or something...

If people choose to smoke, even when pregnant, thats their choice (while it may be grossly irresponsible) and not yours so deal with it...

barbarians

I think there should be a middle ground. Cigarettes should be allowed advertise on television from 11p.m. to about 8 a.m. to allow them waste money from their vast profits to advertise at graveyard times. This way they are allowed advertise but not subjecting their product to children on a mass scale.Advertising on sporting teams and occasions I'm not so sure though, but it's fair to say I watch the Heineken Cup reguraly but I'm not spurred into drinking vast quantities of Heineken. Cigarette advertising would definitely create more opportunities of revenue for teams and events if it was allowed though.

JohnP199

barbarians wrote: »

I think there should be a middle ground. Cigarettes should be allowed advertise on television from 11p.m. to about 8 a.m. to allow them waste money from their vast profits to advertise at graveyard times. This way they are allowed advertise but not subjecting their product to children on a mass scale.Advertising on sporting teams and occasions I'm not so sure though, but it's fair to say I watch the Heineken Cup reguraly but I'm not spurred into drinking vast quantities of Heineken. Cigarette advertising would definitely create more opportunities of revenue for teams and events if it was allowed though.

That wouldnt really help the F1 teams though....

bm365

RichieC wrote: »

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Lotus_79_2009_Lime_Rock.jpg



Vrooooom!!!!!

the ciggy ad made it go faster, not the side skirts as the liberally biased Wikipedia would have you believe!

The Black and Gold returns!

http://www.ineedthat.co.za/capetown/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/renault_r30_2011_lotus_livery-11.jpg

Pity about the red on the front and rear wings

Generalissimo

^ I preferred last year's Renault livery

Jagle

funny question, i smoke and drink, and advertising has never had an effect on if i started or what brand of drink/smokes i use, but why do drink companies get away with it and not smoking companies, dont give me the whole drink is ok for you smoking causes cancer BS argument either, lets face it drinking has done its fair share of damage to this country and its reputation

kearney13

Never seen anything wrong with it at all tbh but I think there banning drink sponsers too?

RichieC

bm365 wrote: »

The Black and Gold returns!

http://www.ineedthat.co.za/capetown/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/renault_r30_2011_lotus_livery-11.jpg

Pity about the red on the front and rear wings

Hopefully they get their act together.

Metallergy

was about to sound off about this myself. there's a huge after school market that remains relatively untapped

ScumLord

What difference does it make if the car says John Player or Philips? Cigarette advertising was fairly dull it was just the name of the packet of cigarettes.

Metallergy

sweet afton. sweeter than your average candy cigarettes

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Tbh I'm not really bothered about who can advertise what but ever since the ban I can't tell any of the snooker competitions apart and that is annoying

Iwannahurl

tommyhaas wrote: »

Yea I think it should be banned. Intellegent, sophisticated people dont need silly ad's to tell them how enjoyable and relaxing it is to sit back and enjoy the experience of inhaling a finely blended Marlboro cigarette, rolled with only the finest tobacco. Tastes good like a cigarette should

The cig manufacturers have always thought otherwise.

tommyhaas wrote: »

Smoking, 6 million people can't be wrong

Even if they're dead? And isn't that also said of flies and eating sh:t?

we'llallhavetea_old

i dunno, but the other day i was watching really old family fortunes and the amount of times smoking and cigarettes were mentioned was shocking, fairly weird to hear them talking about it.
just goes to show how much any mention of smoking has been stamped out of the media.

Odats

I think it should be allowed if alcohol is allowed then why not. It would bring in additional revenues.
It's peoples choice if they want to smoke or not. The F1 cars, bit of snooker or darts advertising didn't do any more than an additional revenue stream. It was very bland and it wasn't like you had the Victorias Secret models or some celebrity smoking and saying it's good for you.
No matter how much you ban advertising people are still going to start smoking be it social or daily.
Are we going to get to the stage of banning Mc Donalds advertising because fast food is seen a cause of obesity.
People should be educated enough to make their own judgement and make their own choices.
In the US for example you see alot of Gunstore or Gunshop advertising at sporting events (my experience is a piece of advertising space on fighters shorts or banner during announcement in the UFC PPV). IMO that's worse than cigarette advertising.

fonecrusher1

Smoking is cool. So is spitting.

Geansai Rua

shouldnt have been banned...
If people are stupid enough to let the ads make them take up such a filthy habit, let them at it.

sure why dont they ban alcohol, razor ads and anything else that people can hurt themselves with if thats the case..

hal9000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smmhuhpE7Ag

ARE YOU SMOKING YET!

orourkeda

danh789 wrote: »

Do you agree with the ban on cigarette advertising? I just got thinking about this last week while watching the snooker. Remember the days of the Benson and Hedges sponsored Irish Masters?

Or more so in Formula 1. I grew up loving the beauty of cars such as the Rothman sponsored Williams Renault and the Benson and Hedges Jordan's. In fact its fair to say the ban finished off many teams. With the money from tobacco companies there is a good chance Jordan might still be on the F1 grid.

Thats my point. I grew up with with all this cigarette advertising. Loved it, the branding, the colour etc. But I have never once smoked a cigarette in all my life.

So what is everyone else's opinion on the ban of cigarette advertising?

The beauty of the car wasnlt created by a cigrette.

The snooker tournament would probably have attracted the same players playing to the same standard with another sponsor

orourkeda

Geansai Rua wrote: »

shouldnt have been banned...
If people are stupid enough to let the ads make them take up such a filthy habit, let them at it.

sure why dont they ban alcohol, razor ads and anything else that people can hurt themselves with if thats the case..

400 odd people a year die on the roads in Ireland with countless injuries. I don't see car ads getting banned.

PAULWATSON

I'm too dumb to think for myself. If they advertised the tobacca I'd be off like a train.

SOME CHANCE. Welcome to the nanny state.

giant_midget

Marlboro still sponsor the Ferrari F1 team, The barcode that you see on the rear wing is the marlboro logo & also on alonso and massa's race suits..

I do miss the old embassy world championship snooker, their logo fitted well...

Fratton Fred

bm365 wrote: »

The Black and Gold returns!

http://www.ineedthat.co.za/capetown/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/renault_r30_2011_lotus_livery-11.jpg

Pity about the red on the front and rear wings

I've driven that car. Well not that exact one, but a JPS lotus F1 car.

Well, when I say driven, I mean that was my Scalextric car when I was a kid and I wouldn't use anything else.

Didn't turn me into a smoker though. Marlboro did that.

Alcohol advertisements should also be banned.

PAULWATSON

Deleted User wrote: »

Alcohol advertisements should also be banned.

Not just that, BAN EVERYTHING.

Duggy747

Heh, I remember seeing fag ads on papers and magazines. They always consist of the words "fresh", "crisp", "full flavour", "taste" and usually show a bunch of people sitting around laughing with each of them smoking. Looked like they were having such good fun.

I used to think with the amount of them smoking in such confined spaces they probably stunk the place out :pac:

KungPao

Duggy747 wrote: »

Heh, I remember seeing fag ads on papers and magazines. They always consist of the words "fresh", "crisp", "full flavour", "taste" and usually show a bunch of people sitting around laughing with each of them smoking. Looked like they were having such good fun.

I used to think with the amount of them smoking in such confined spaces they probably stunk the place out :pac:

Mid-late nineties Playboy was great for cig ads. Kool cigarettes, with these well-off, good looking people being cool because they smoke Kool cigerettes.

I wish I was kool.

smokedeels

Top athletes recommend it

Even the modern day footballer enjoys a good smokable

Irish Guitarist

I saw a Chuck Berry concert on Sky Arts recently which was sponsored by Avo cigars. I looked at the homepage and it seems they sponsor a lot of concerts.

Here's a list of the bands and musicians that have played concerts for them http://www.avo.ch/en/programm/artist_history

I don't know why this type of advertising is allowed when cigarette advertising isn't.

On topic I don't think it matters if smoking is advertised. I see the same amount of young people taking up smoking now as when I went to school.

Actually not advertising smoking might somehow make it seem cooler to kids as it might be seen as more taboo and something they're not supposed to be doing. The only way to stop cigarettes would be to ban them.

jimthemental

Great thread idea OP. I think you're right, it gave a certain extra exclusivity to F1 and snooker for me as a kid, I knew I'd never have the kind of money these boys had and also knew that I couldn't smoke either at that age. I think it made everything seem cooler and more grown up. The logos, colour schemes and the event choices themselves were very well done too. I'd say Guinness are one of the only ones in that league anymore and even they have faltered in recent years, especially with that dot ad.

amacachi

Crasp wrote: »

ferrari still sponsored by marlboro though.

Pretty sure they're not any more.
I still remember all the F1 teams from back in the day by the cigarette sponsor, Benetton were Mild 7, Ligier were Gauloises, Jordan were B+H, McLaren were Marlboro, Williams were Rothmans. At the time I didn't even know some of them were cigarette brands, ah the innocence of youth.

Crasp

amacachi wrote: »

Pretty sure they're not any more.
I still remember all the F1 teams from back in the day by the cigarette sponsor, Benetton were Mild 7, Ligier were Gauloises, Jordan were B+H, McLaren were Marlboro, Williams were Rothmans. At the time I didn't even know some of them were cigarette brands, ah the innocence of youth.

I just checked - they are: http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1/Partners/Sponsors/Philip_Morris_International/Pages/PMI.aspx



as said already all the blanks patches or "bar codes" on the overalls/cars (wings, engine covers etc) are where the marlboro logo goes at grands prix in countries where tobacco advertising is permitted.

CrazyRabbit

Without all the advertising, my father may not have started smoking.
And he may not have gotten cancer from it.
And he may not have died from that cancer, leaving 4 young kids behind and a grieving widow.

So **** the F1 racing industry. I'm glad of the severe restrictions on cigarette advertising. The sooner we get rid of this scourge the better.

Jagle

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Without all the advertising, my father may not have started smoking.
And he may not have gotten cancer from it.
And he may not have died from that cancer, leaving 4 young kids behind and a grieving widow.

So **** the F1 racing industry. I'm glad of the severe restrictions on cigarette advertising. The sooner we get rid of this scourge the better.

very sorry for your loss, thank god your dad didnt see a advert for drink, and drank himself into alcoholism, and beat your mother and died of liver failure leaving behind 4 young kids and a black and blue wife.

worse still, an add for nike shoes, adn he spent all the money to feed ye on trainers he didnt need.

see what im getting at here? dont think it was the adverts fault but your dads really

smokedeels

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Without all the advertising, my father may not have started smoking.
And he may not have gotten cancer from it.
And he may not have died from that cancer, leaving 4 young kids behind and a grieving widow.

So **** the F1 racing industry. I'm glad of the severe restrictions on cigarette advertising. The sooner we get rid of this scourge the better.

Sorry your father died, but it doesn't give you the right to police other peoples lives or get away with suggesting it.

I like smoking and I accept the health risks, that's my business not yours, irrespective of how smoking affected you or your family.

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

**** the F1 racing industry.

I agree with this, on the basis that it's a cr@p sport.