this guy went from average looking to very good looking (no homo)

imported_guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlk3nNya93M

mind = blown

plein de force

that's amazing :eek::eek:

Jumpy

I would get suspicious when I could see that she could tear my arm off and beat me to death with it.

W.Shakes-Beer

but s/he still has a beef roll i bet.

Jumpy

Oh yeah. HRT is complete. She did the duck face. Definitely a chick now.

Links234

she's a gorgeous girl

RichieC

Jumpy wrote: »

I would get suspicious when I could see that she could tear my arm off and beat me to death with it.

HavingCrack

Don't know how real that is to be honest. Someone who is a weight lifter and body builder and heavy metaler suddenly decides he wants to be a woman?? Bit suspicious I have to say.

RichieC

HavingCrack wrote: »

Don't know how real that is to be honest. Someone who is a weight lifter and body builder and heavy metaler suddenly decides he wants to be a woman?? Bit suspicious I have to say.

Doesn't conform to stereotypes, you'll find a lot of that in the real world.

phasers

Yes homo

drunkmonkey

just before you turn bertie remember what the real thing is like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAp9BKosZXs

What is HRT? Wait. I think I got it. I skipped through the video instead of watching it all, so I thought it was different people.

Links234

HavingCrack wrote: »

Don't know how real that is to be honest. Someone who is a weight lifter and body builder and heavy metaler suddenly decides he wants to be a woman?? Bit suspicious I have to say.

not really suspicious at all, many transgender women do things to overcompensate when they're in denial. she's an amazing guitar player too if you check out her other videos.

Links234

Deleted User wrote: »

What is HRT?

Hormone Replacement Therapy

stevejr

Deleted User wrote: »

What is HRT? Wait. I think I got it.

Hormone Replacement Therapy, I believe.

Chuchoter

HavingCrack wrote: »

Don't know how real that is to be honest. Someone who is a weight lifter and body builder and heavy metaler suddenly decides he wants to be a woman?? Bit suspicious I have to say.

Bodybuilding and heavy metal are not the preserve of men. You can like those things and be a girl at the same time.

LukeS_

Imagine how dissapointed men are when they take him/her back to their house. :eek:

arybvtcw0eolkf

HavingCrack wrote: »

Don't know how real that is to be honest. Someone who is a weight lifter and body builder and heavy metaler suddenly decides he wants to be a woman?? Bit suspicious I have to say.

+1.

Even with estrogen and whatever else he takes in his HRT I find it hard to believe he can lose the muscle mass like that.

I'd be muscular enough, and I can miss training for extended periods if I have to and the best that will happen is I get a softer, flabby look.. So, I doubt this is real tbh.

But if its true, I'm hugely impressed.. But not about to try it.

imported_guy

Deleted User wrote: »

What is HRT? Wait. I think I got it.

hormone therapy, the dude(ette) is legit, posted the diet etc + a spoon pic on bodybuilding.com, seems pretty legit

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=129326761 he/she/it starts posting a few pages in though not the OP

Jaxxy

Wow, that's pretty amazing. My mind is a bit blown too. Fair play to her, can't have been easy!

af_thefragile

Wait a minute... Its an average looking guy who became a hot girl over a year??

Like WTF?!?!?!?! :eek: :eek:

How did he get boobs and what about his penis?!?!



Eh... looks like you've got to start being extra careful now with choosing the right girl...

imported_guy

Dylan Vast Newsprint wrote: »

+1.

Even with estrogen and whatever else he takes in his HRT I find it hard to believe he can lose the muscle mass like that.

I'd be muscular enough, and I can miss training for extended periods if I have to and the best that will happen is I get a softer, flabby look.. So, I doubt this is real tbh.

But if its true, I'm hugely impressed.. But not about to try it.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=583597973&postcount=250

spoon pic here

Jumpy

Links234 wrote: »

Hormone Replacement Therapy

How do you make a Hormone?















kick her in the gee

TouchingVirus

My mind is blown all right, dramatic transformation - the result of HRT and Testosterone blockers. Never seen it before but if you check out another video you'll see the arms/back are still really beefy for a girl.

Best of luck to her anyways

Links234

af_thefragile wrote: »

How did he get boobs

she got boobs just like any other girl got them during puberty, once she started hormone therapy, they developed, and will continue to develop for another few years.

af_thefragile

It is actually very possible.

HRT will give any man boobs and lose muscle mass and develop more fat. It'll also make the skin and hair softer and basically make you a girl!
It'll shrink your balls into nothing and could also make milk come out of your new boobs.


If you realise the only thing that differentiates men from women are infact the testicles which release testosterone in men which makes them like men and ovaries which release oestrogen and progestrone in women which makes them like women.

As before puberty the testes and ovaries aren't fully developed, pre-pubescent boys and girls have very similar physique and such. Even pre-pubescent girl's undeveloped chest are exactly similar to a pre-pubescent boy's chest.

If you reverse the process you can make a women grow muscles and facial hair and make a man become more 'fatty' and lose all his chest and facial hair...



Still like why would you want to go out with a girl with a penis?!

Links234

af_thefragile wrote: »

Still like why would you want to go out with a girl with a penis?!

because you get on with her, find her attractive and have feelings for her? seems like a good enough reason

and believe me, loads of guys would want to go out with a transgender girl

Links234

Here's another video if you're interested guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_7iKfWu2Oc

anothernight

af_thefragile wrote: »

Still like why would you want to go out with a girl with a penis?!

On the physical side, well, nowadays they can make a new vagina if she opts to have it.

af_thefragile

TouchingVirus wrote: »

My mind is blown all right, dramatic transformation - the result of HRT and Testosterone blockers. Never seen it before but if you check out another video you'll see the arms/back are still really beefy for a girl.

Best of luck to her anyways

Yeah men and women have a different skeletal structure though which he can't change. Such as the pelvis, elbows, knees, shoulders etc.

Men have a smaller pelvis and less wide. Women have a wider pelvis which gives them those curvy hips. Women also have a greater angle at their elbow joint than men and such...

If naked he'll still look like a tranny. Not to ignore his penis!

fizzynicenice

I watched this stoned and i curled up into a ball during it and spent the next 5 minutes felling a little bit . . . molested.

af_thefragile

Links234 wrote: »

because you get on with her, find her attractive and have feelings for her? seems like a good enough reason

and believe me, loads of guys would want to go out with a transgender girl

Eh.. how would you do it??

Like sure he could get a new vagina and such. It still won't be like the real thing. He'll still have a prostate and a small pelvis and all. It's just gonna be very weird!!

Well maybe some guys are into that sorta thing...
The new world is a freaky freaky place!!

Jaxxy

I think it's worth pointing out that not all transgender girls are attracted specifically to men. I have a transgender friend who is only attracted to women.

HavingCrack

crayolastereo wrote: »

Bodybuilding and heavy metal are not the preserve of men. You can like those things and be a girl at the same time.

Sigh

I know but generally men are in a pretty big majority for both. I don't think you can say that's not true.

Anyway my point is when you put those two together they would generally be the sign of someone who wouldn't be the atypical person you would associate with transgender people.

Chuchoter

af_thefragile wrote: »

Yeah men and women have a different skeletal structure though which he can't change. Such as the pelvis, elbows, knees, shoulders etc.

Men have a smaller pelvis and less wide. Women have a wider pelvis which gives them those curvy hips. Women also have a greater angle at their elbow joint than men and such...

If naked he'll still look like a tranny. Not to ignore his penis!

You would be amazed how powerful hormones are. Testosterone causes some skeletal changes, but a lot of the differences are actually soft tissue and can be changed quite easily. Womens curvier frames is more down to where the fat is, not the size of the pelvis, the main difference there is that it is at an angle of greater than 90 degrees. Thats why that when FTMs go off testosterone, their faces will become more feminine (not totally) again because the absence of testosterone causes the muscle and fat to reposition itself. In terms of your last point, the surgery is very advanced and in general very successful.

Also @HavingCrack: You said that her identity was questionable because she was into such masculine things. Is it not more likely that she is a girl who just happens to like these things? Just because you are trans does not make you super girly, you can be a tomboy too.

Links234

af_thefragile wrote: »

Yeah men and women have a different skeletal structure though which he can't change. Such as the pelvis, elbows, knees, shoulders etc.

Men have a smaller pelvis and less wide. Women have a wider pelvis which gives them those curvy hips. Women also have a greater angle at their elbow joint than men and such...

If naked he'll still look like a tranny. Not to ignore his penis!

can you please give her a little respect and not refer to her with male pronouns?

bones don't change shape but much of what makes the difference between male and female is body fat and musculature. during HRT for transgender women body fat redistributes to female areas and will fill out the hips, and there will be a lot of changes in upper body musculature too, such as the back, shoulders and neck. she'd probably have quite a feminine body shape already

af_thefragile

Links234 wrote: »

can you please give her a little respect and not refer to her with male pronouns?

bones don't change shape but much of what makes the difference between male and female is body fat and musculature. during HRT for transgender women body fat redistributes to female areas and will fill out the hips, and there will be a lot of changes in upper body musculature too, such as the back, shoulders and neck. she'd probably have quite a feminine body shape already

That is true. Yeah.

But well, why would anyone wanna become a girl when they're a perfectly shaped man... Its completely unnatural.

Anyway, its a strange world we live in...

Jaxxy

af_thefragile wrote: »

That is true. Yeah.

But well, why would anyone wanna become a girl when they're a perfectly shaped man... Its completely unnatural.

Anyway, its a strange world we live in...

Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it strange or unnatural.

citizen_p

all i can think is....
ITS A TRAP aghhh

Chuchoter

af_thefragile wrote: »

That is true. Yeah.

But well, why would anyone wanna become a girl when they're a perfectly shaped man... Its completely unnatural.

Anyway, its a strange world we live in...

If you woke up in the morning looking like the opposite sex I'm sure you would go do something about it. It would be unnatural not to.

Links234

af_thefragile wrote: »

Its completely unnatural.

so are computers!

which, I might add, probably wouldn't exist as we know them today, if it wasn't for how this transgender woman revolutionized microchip design.

so computers are really double unnatural then! quick, throw yours out the window!

http://www.lgbthistorymonth.org.uk/history/lynnconway.htm

If you use virtually any sort of microelectronic technology in your daily life then you owe an immense debt to engineer and latter day trans campaigner, Lynn Conway.

Lynn is Emerita Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the University of Michigan and, whilst working at the famous Xerox “PARC” centre in the mid 1970’s, made a pivotal contribution to the way in which large and complex computer chips are designed. The techniques she invented with her colleague, Professor Carver Mead, meant that more engineers were able to design more computer chips in a fraction of the time it had taken before – her methods are still taught to University students around the world – and the paradigms she gave the engineering world have influenced the design of everything from desktop computers and personal organisers to toasters.

Yet even before this seminal contribution, Lynn had already contributed enormously to the product design strategy of IBM – with ideas that also changed the way that very fast computers are built. Chances are, in fact, your desktop PC uses those ideas even today – allowing it to carry out several instructions at the same time, rather than one after the other.

OMG! computers are evil unnatural transsexual technology! :eek::pac:

TanG411

I'm never fantasizing about beautiful women ever again.

Links234

HavingCrack wrote: »

Anyway my point is when you put those two together they would generally be the sign of someone who wouldn't be the atypical person you would associate with transgender people.

what's the typical transgender person, do you think?

Jumpy

Links234 wrote: »

what's the typical transgender person, do you think?

Justin Bieber?

Links234

Jumpy wrote: »

Justin Bieber?

no, but on a side note, a surprising amount of lesbians look like justin bieber

http://lesbianswholooklikejustinbieber.tumblr.com/

HavingCrack

Links234 wrote: »

what's the typical transgender person, do you think?

:pac:

Ah well in fairness most people will associate transgender people (rightly or wrongly) as either displaying traditionally effeminate gestures/features etc if they're male and displaying traditionally masculine ones when female. I think it is fair to that basically most people would presume a transgender person would be similar to someone like Graham Norton or someone like Snoop Pearson. Obviously not all are..

El Horseboxo

Don't consider it good looking. Mad change though in a year. The stress on the body must be mental.

Links234

HavingCrack wrote: »

:pac:

Ah well in fairness most people will associate transgender people (rightly or wrongly) as either displaying traditionally effeminate gestures/features etc if they're male and displaying traditionally masculine ones when female. I think it is fair to that basically most people would presume a transgender person would be similar to someone like Graham Norton or someone like Snoop Pearson. Obviously not all are..

I think you might actually find that transgender people are really quite varied in their personalities and interests.

one woman who was a pretty big inspiration to me personally was Marissa Martinez:



she plays death metal, and she's transgender

citizen_p

i think its very strange, especially the whole "born a woman in a mans body"... very very strange

Sisko

*Shudders

Links234

Mousey- wrote: »

i think its very strange, especially the whole "born a woman in a mans body"... very very strange

we live in a world full of diversity and I think it's wonderful.

but to tell the truth, sometimes I do find things strange. like, there are guys out there who don't want to be girls! yeah, I know, weird! I just don't get that at all, what is up with that? very very strange indeed.


anyway guys, I have a thread over on the LGBT forum this is what the transition looks like when a boy becomes a girl, there are many women out there who were assigned male at birth and then transitioned to female.

just for example: