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  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭Elohim


    It has now hit Sweden. A Flashforward is on the way! :cool:
    Are CERN powering up their particle accelerator to max any time soon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Elohim wrote: »
    It has now hit Sweden. A Flashforward is on the way! :cool:
    Are CERN powering up their particle accelerator to max any time soon?
    it's obvious you're piss taking in this thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Poly


    A strain of GM crop poisoning the birds?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    Heres a map of all the reports of dead animals:
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=201817256339889828327.0004991bca25af104a22b&ll=28.921631

    Its interesting, although it is important to put it in perspective, billions of animals die every year, the unusual nature of some of these makes it interesting though, I've seen magnetic field theory mentioned, how would this cause death though?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭Elohim


    digme wrote: »
    it's obvious you're piss taking in this thread.

    It was already mentioned on the first page, I was just highlighting it again after the second incident came to light.
    It's extremely weird but don't get how it's a CT anyways.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    digme wrote: »
    Birds can 'see' the Earth's magnetic field so maybe the earth's magnetic filed is going haywire?

    Seriously doubt it. If it were we'd all know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    iamstop wrote: »
    Seriously doubt it. If it were we'd all know.

    Yeah, evidently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    How come the usual trolls aren't here picking this thing apart like vultures??

    :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    digme wrote: »
    How come the usual trolls aren't here picking this thing apart like vultures??

    :D

    They are scared :D

    They spent so much denying whats coming, they haven't mentally prepared for it lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    China has figured out why birds are falling all over the place.

    Magnetic Shift
    We know that birds navigate by the magnetic field, only the magnetic field changes, and the birds will be lost fall,

    Migratory birds rely on the body's "biological compass" to determine the direction is "open secret", but it is not clear how the perception of the magnetic field of birds.

    "Nobody knows it (the magnetic induction system) to work," Patterson said Murray, "magnetic induction principle is that people understand the nature, at least so far the (principle)."

    How long migratory birds perceive the magnetic field on two main points. One view is that the birds beak cells can sense the Earth's magnetic field and pass the message through the nervous system to the brain; another point of view, birds eye in the photoreceptor cells can "see" the magnetic field, and the information through another way to the brain is referred to as "N clusters" light processing area.

    Specific proteins in migratory birds eye "cryptochrome" Maybe this is the light-dependent magnetic field sensing of the media. Light stimulation of this protein produced a pair of free radicals, free radicals can be carried by the electron spin may be able to perceive the special properties of Earth's magnetic field.

    In general, the magnetic elements of change is very small, but with the solar activity and geomagnetic storms are closely related phenomena, but it happened very suddenly. This is because the intense sunspot activity, when the energy released is equivalent to some one hundred thousand hydrogen bomb blast, while a large number of charged particles ejected. These charged particles hitting the Earth forming a powerful magnetic field to the magnetic field superposition, so that under normal circumstances, the magnetic elements changed dramatically, causing "magnetic storms." Occurs when the magnetic storm on Earth many strange phenomena occur. Over the North Pole in the dark there will be a beautiful aurora. The compass will swing, short-wave radio broadcasts suddenly, relying on the magnetic field "navigation" will be lost pigeons, flying around. To cosmic rays and magnetic fields can stop high-energy charged particles from the sun is harmful organisms from the natural umbrella.

    There may be and the polarity of the magnetic field changes related to conversion, according to Indian newspaper reports, Hyderabad (Hyderabad), a company in 2012, researchers predicted that the Earth and the Sun's magnetic poles will reverse. Earth's magnetic reversal Earth's magnetic field is the occurrence of the Arctic and Antarctic swap, in the course of the earth will experience at some point in time there is no magnetic field in the state.

    Such a thing in human history not recorded, so only through computer simulation of its impact. Hyderabad model based on the Earth and the Sun's magnetic field in addition to the conversion

    http://www.chou4.com/ky/showArticle.htm?topTypeId=62&articleId=3449


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    The MAgnetic field thing is very interesting, I suppose if you could mess with something like that even slightly then it would cause massive repurcussions in the Creatures that Use it, Disorentiation is a reason thats being bandied about for the Arkansas (Oh BTW I Believe its Pronounced Arc - n' - Saw) Bird deaths, so thats a possible reason for the disorentiation.

    As for the Fish, maybe the same thing, they're also highly atuned to these felds so a slight change can have massive effects.

    Next thing is to figure out if anything has Happened to the Earths Magnetic Field, then comes everyones favourite part, the speculative bit about the causes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Probably a stupid question, but if it's related to Earths magnetic field, then why is it only happening in a few rather random places around the world? Would there not be more of a pattern displayed on the map given above?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Gas is a prime suspect, it's not the fireworks or the cold, though obviously some deaths could be from either or both.

    The weather machine must be considered a suspect.

    Release of trapped CO2 from underground and undersea.

    Release of poisonous gasses due to earthquake and volcanic activity.

    Undetected CME's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    humanji wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but if it's related to Earths magnetic field, then why is it only happening in a few rather random places around the world? Would there not be more of a pattern displayed on the map given above?

    We are due a polar shift. We know the shift comes suddenly in geographic terms and recent studies suggest that we will experience a few wobbles and perhaps a gradual shifting of the poles and not a sudden snap of reverse polarity.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    humanji wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but if it's related to Earths magnetic field, then why is it only happening in a few rather random places around the world? Would there not be more of a pattern displayed on the map given above?

    Magnetic anomalies. http://io9.com/5060911/magnetic-anomaly-map-of-the-world

    Very localised and long known about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    humanji wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but if it's related to Earths magnetic field, then why is it only happening in a few rather random places around the world? Would there not be more of a pattern displayed on the map given above?

    magnetic_field.jpg



    That video shows how its not a very uniform shift and is unstable for the years before hand. The video is at a rate of 100 years per second.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    gbee wrote: »
    We are due a polar shift. We know the shift comes suddenly in geographic terms and recent studies suggest that we will experience a few wobbles and perhaps a gradual shifting of the poles and not a sudden snap of reverse polarity.

    Would that mean that possibly Ireland could become a tropical paradise?
    Or are you just talking about the magnetic pole which of course moves all the time anyway?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Saruman wrote: »
    Would that mean that possibly Ireland could become a tropical paradise?
    Or are you just talking about the magnetic pole which of course moves all the time anyway?

    I asked a question regarding pole shift and its effect on our climate in the weather forum last year. M.T. Cranium gave a good summation of what we could expect to see

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055782629


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Saruman wrote: »
    Would that mean that possibly Ireland could become a tropical paradise?
    Or are you just talking about the magnetic pole which of course moves all the time anyway?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    digme wrote: »
    How come the usual trolls aren't here picking this thing apart like vultures??

    :D

    If I were a troll I would get offended by that comment.

    Oh, did you get an infraction for that ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    I think that if there were the same standard of reporting across the world you may see a more balanced spread of occurences on a map. Unfortunately, Reuters et al don't usually go as far as equatorial Africa and to the depths of Siberia to cover stories.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Heres an article from News.com.au

    It lists a lot of the incidents, butr it seems that there were more looking at the map
    THE recent spate of mass animal deaths around the world is sparking conspiracy theories and doomsday predictions on the web.

    From the US to New Zealand, from Britain to Brazil, bizarre cases of birds, fish and crabs turning up dead en masse have been reported in the past two weeks and no one seems to know why.

    Not that it’s stopping residents of the internet from having a red hot go.

    One example is from conspiracy theorists Joseph Watson and Alex Jones of prisonplanet.com who blame it on "the government". According to the site authorities have “routinely engaged in secret testing of biological and electromagnetic weapons that have detrimentally impacted both humans and animals many times in the past.”

    Others are blaming it on the New Madrid fault line in the southern US, although how this affects birds flying in the sky, we’re not too sure.

    Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar.
    Related Coverage

    * Birds suffered acute blunt force NEWS.com.au, 3 hours ago
    * More mysterious mass bird deaths Herald Sun, 1 day ago
    * New mass death of birds in Sweden NEWS.com.au, 1 day ago
    * 'Carpet' of dead snapper on NZ beach Adelaide Now, 2 days ago
    * 'Carpet' of dead snapper on NZ beaches NEWS.com.au, 2 days ago

    End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar.
    make your own news service on igoogle

    And let’s not even get started on the 2012 end of the world predictions.

    Here at news.com.au we’ve sifted through the evidence and present some saner possible explanations so you can decide for yourself if this is the end of days, or just a freaky and gruesome coincidence.

    Where: a 30km stretch of the Arkansas River near Ozark, about 200km northwest of Little Rock in the US.

    What: 100,000 drum fish washed up along a 32km stretch between the Ozark dam and a bridge in Franklin County. Local authorities were alerted to the deaths last week and have since collected samples from the affected area.

    How: Keith Stephens from the US Game and Fish Commission said fish kills happen every year, but the size of the latest one was unusual. He suggested some sort of disease was to blame.

    "The fish kill only affected one species of fish," he told CNN.

    "If it was from a pollutant, it would have affected all of the fish, not just drum fish."

    Where: Beebe, a community of 5000, northeast of Little Rock.


    What: New Year's revellers in a small town noticed something other than fireworks falling from the sky as up to 5000 red-winged blackbirds rained out of the darkness onto rooftops and footpaths and into fields.

    One struck a woman walking her dog. Another hit a police cruiser.

    Birds were "littering the streets, the yards, the driveways, everywhere," said Robby King, a county wildlife officer.

    "It was hard to drive down the street in some places without running over them."

    How: "They died from massive trauma," said Game and Fish Commission spokesman Keith Stephens, citing a report from the state poultry lab where the birds were examined.
    Some speculated that a bout of bad weather was to blame. Others said one confused bird could have led the group in a fatal plunge. A few spooked schoolkids even guessed that the birds had committed mass suicide.

    Beebe police captain Eddie Cullum said "For all the doomsdayers, that was definitely the end of the world."

    Where: The second unexplained US mass bird death happened in Louisiana where carcasses littered a stretch of highway near Baton Rouge.

    What: 500 birds were discovered dead in Pointe Coupee Parish.

    How: Olivia Watkins of the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries said: ”We sent samples to a lab in Missouri and are waiting to get some results.”

    The birds - a mixed flock of red-winged blackbirds, brown-headed cowbirds, grackles and starlings - may have hit a power line or vehicles in the dark, Louisiana's state wildlife veterinarian Jim LaCour said. Two dozen of them had head, neck, beak or back injuries.

    Dan Cristol, a biology professor and co-founder of the Institute for Integrative Bird Behavior Studies at the College of William & Mary, said the Louisiana birds may have been ill or startled from their roost.

    “They don't hit a power line for no reason,” he said.

    Where: A snow-covered street in Falkoping, Sweden.

    What: About 100 jackdaw birds were found lying dead on the road, Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet reported.

    How: Local veterinarian Robert ter Horst speculated that the birds had fallen from the sky after being frightened by fireworks set off late on Tuesday.

    However, the cause of the jackdaws' deaths was disputed after a truck driver claimed he was responsible.

    Christer Olofosson, a rescue services worker, said the truck driver claimed he saw about 70 live birds on the road on Tuesday, saying he ran over the lot of them and did not think it was a “big deal”. He later realised it had attracted attention, not only in the Swedish media, but also abroad.

    Police told the newspaper the majority of the jackdaws involved were not "physically damaged," which would contradict the truck driver's account of events. Mystery.

    Where: Kentucky, US

    What: Kentucky wildlife officials say several hundred birds were found dead in the western part of the state. The grackles, red wing blackbirds, robins and starlings were found last week.

    How: No reason has been discovered or given yet.


    Where: Little Bay and Waikawau Bay, Coromandel Peninsula, New Zealand

    What: A "carpet" of hundreds of dead, mostly eyeless, snapper washed up on several Coromandel Peninsula beaches on Tuesday, leaving people mystified.

    Auckland resident James Hughes spotted the snapper floating close to shore after children rushed up to him and his friends holding some of the dead fish, the New Zealand Herald reported.

    "We spoke to boaties coming in and they said there was a carpet of them floating in the water."

    How: A Department of Conservation official told Mr Hughes fish in the Coromandel area were starving because of weather conditions.

    "That's just completely untrue. This was something deliberate and it's just wrong," Mr Hughes said


    Where: Thanet, Kent, England

    What: 40,000 dead velvet swimming crabs, or “devil crabs” washed up on Thanet beaches. Tony Childs, Thanet Coast Project Manager, told the Daily Mail: “We had a crash in numbers last year and we hadn't expected such a large population.

    “As happens with the circle of life in nature, we expect the crabs to be naturally dispersed from our shores very quickly by our local seagulls.”

    How: The cold weather in Britain has been blamed for the deaths. "We are hopeful the crab population will soon recover," said Mr Childs.
    The Daily Mail reported that the mass crab deaths made up 95 per cent of marine life affected by the cold snap.



    Where: Chesapeake Bay, Maryland, US

    What: The Baltimore Sun reported an estimated two million spot fish died and washed up on the shore. The dead fish are mostly adult spot, with some juvenile croakers.

    How: State officials are investigating but suspect it was because of the near-record cold. Agency spokeswoman Dawn Stoltzfus said spot are susceptible to colder water, she said, and normally leave the upper bay by now. They were perhaps late getting out.


    Where: Coast of Paranaguá, Brazil

    What: At least 100 tonnes of sardine, croaker and catfish have washed up on beaches over the past week, Parana Online reported.

    The President of the Federation of Fishermen's Colony of Parana, Edmir Manoel Ferreira, said at least 2800 fishermen depend on the daily seafood.

    "We are experiencing a very sad situation on the coast," he said.

    How: Authorities took samples to verify the reason for the deaths.

    Biologists have explained the deaths could be because of a possible increase in the concentration of algae that produce toxins. This increase may lead to death in some species, such as sardines.

    Water samples taken from the bay showed elevated levels of two species of toxic algae.



    Where: Port Orange, Florida US

    What: Hundreds of dead fish floated around the waterways near homes, WFTV reported, surrounded by swarms of pelicans and buzzards.

    Kayakers on the creek told WFTV they'd seen fish around every bend and it appeared to be one of the most extensive kills they had seen.

    How: ?



    With AP, AAP, AFP, Newscore

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world/is-it-an-animal-apocalypse-here-are-the-facts-and-theories-about-recent-mass-die-offs/story-e6frfkyi-1225983078355#ixzz1APCdmUja


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Darlughda


    So, what on earth is going on with all this fish and bird business??

    Whats more odd is that no one is coming forward with any theories.

    Is that because they are sick and tired of being attacked by the usual suspects?

    I'm kind of surprised at this silence re:theories.

    Grrr. Wish Mysterious was still around.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Theory !!!!!!
    Jaysus, we've barely gotten to a hypothesis yet, I'm leanin towards Magnetic field disruptions currently, the HOW of that is the next thing


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Saw this in a video on another thread
    World-Temperature-Anomalies-June-2010-2.gif

    Temprature anomalies this year, seems to look up fairly consistently with the fish at least, so that could be a simple explanation for that, Still leaves the Birds tho, and the fact that its still only certain species in certain areas and not Mass kills like you would normally expect from Frost/Chemical contamination

    and anyway we're not after the simple explanation ;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    and Frost dosent explain the Penguins:p


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